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Detailed guide on X5 "lens calibration"
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In common with many Inspire 1 pilots, I have been confused for a long time by the idea of lens calibration. I didn’t have a clue what it meant, why I needed to do it, and how to do it reliably. So I decided to investigate and test – and here is what I found….

Firstly, a “lens calibration” is a misnomer. What you are actually doing is telling the GO app what position the lens should be to have an image in focus when you tap on the Infinity mark on the focusing strip.

Specifically, what you actually want to do is have the lens at its hyperfocal distance – that’s the distance from which everything at that distance to infinity is in focus. Check out [color=rgb(120, 120, 120) !important]Hyperfocal distance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia to understand more detail, as well as [color=rgb(120, 120, 120) !important]Circle of confusion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia if you’re confused by the circle of confusion.

There is no fixed “infinity” focusing position on the X5’s standard lens – and that’s why you need to tell it the GO app what distance is the correct setting for “infinity.” You just tell the app where it should move the lens to have things you want to be in focus.

But you can be sneaky and actually just set the lens to be at the optimal distance for your aerial photography – and not necessarily actually focused at infinity! You can then recall this “optimal focus” distance by tapping on the infinity setting in the app.

Of course, you need to do this lens calibration for all the devices on which you run the GO app.

Just to repeat: Calibrate the GO app on each device and, unless you have a good reason not to, set the lens to the hyperfocal distance – and be sure to do the calibration at the largest aperture the lens has available.

For the DJI 15mm on a Micro 4/3 (MFT) camera, optical theory says that if you set it to its largest aperture of f1.7 and focus to 15 meters (49 feet) then everything from 7 meters (22 feet) to infinity will be in focus (remember my comment about the circle of confusion above).

So here is how to calibrate the GO app for the lens’ hyperfocal distance:

1. Find some fairly large object with contrasting patterns (a building with windows and brick work, for example) which is fairly far away – certainly not less than 50 meters (164 feet) – you’ll still be OK if it’s a bit closer than that.

2. The GO App will force you to calibrate the lens in Video mode with Autofocus (AF) but there is a way to calibrate in Photo mode with manual focus. And this gives you better focus assist and peaking – and that’s the method I’m going to describe, so select Photo Mode before you proceed.

3. Then you need to turn on MF Focus Assistant (it’s under the Menu > Settings (wrench). When you turn on Focus Assistant, you’ll see a zoomed in portion of the frame that makes it easier to see whether the image is properly focused. If you want to use Peaking, set it to 90% (its under General Settings at the top right hard corner of the app.). Under the Menu > Video tab choose Color and select None (do not use D-Log or D-Cinelike as the image is very low contrast and its much harder to see when the image is in focus). Select Style: Landscape (this use +1 sharpening and contrast – which also makes it easier to see when an image is in focus). I’m not really sure whether the Color: None, and Style: Landscape are critical, but they worked best for me.

4. In the Camera parameters (button with sliders, below the record an play buttons) chose Manual Exposure (M) or Aperture Priority (A) and dial in the largest aperture of your lens (the smallest f-number like 1.7 is the largest aperture. Check out [color=rgb(120, 120, 120) !important]Aperture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia if you need to understand this in more detail). As I mentioned, using the largest aperture is better for getting the most accurate calibration.

5. Set the camera’s exposure correctly for the scene you are using for calibration. If you prefer to use Manual Exposure, set the shutter speed and ISO rating to get a proper image in the app. If you use Aperture Priority, choose Auto ISO and an appropriate shutter speed, then use EV correction to adjust to the correct exposure.

6. Now choose Menu > Settings (wrench key) > Calibration > Calibrate Now and the Go app will switch to Video Mode and enable Autofocus (AF) mode. This is where you need to tap on the Video/Photo button and switch back to Photo Mode (leaving it in Autofocus).

7. Now look at the image shown on the app and select the distant object you want to use for calibration and tap on it in the image. You should see a green rectangle appear at the point where you tapped – that shows that the lens has focused on the object where you tapped. You can manually correct this focusing point by pressing the C1 button under the remote control and using the left thumbwheel on the remote control – the camera will then switch to Manual Focus mode by itself. Assuming you enabled the Focus Assistant then the app will zoom in on the part of the image where you tapped so you can now use the C1 button (underneath the remote controller on the left hand side as you hold it normally) and the left thumbwheel to focus precisely on the distant object. You may need to go back and forth a bit on the thumbwheel to find the point where the image is “tack sharp” (as photographers say).

When you do this calibration, I recommend that you start by bringing objects into focus that are slightly closer than the distant object you originally tapped on and then move the focus point back out to the original object.  Avoid unnecessarily “back focusing” on objects beyond the distant object unless you really need to – remember that the goal is to have the distant object at as the hyperfocal point so that it and everything beyond it in focus. If you back focus on distant mountains, there is a good chance that the distant object you selected might no longer be in focus.

8. Then tap on OK to confirm Calibration and you are done!

9. Be sure to make several test images by tapping on the Infinity mark on the Manual Focus strip in the GO app. Also take some test shots after adjusting the focus point closer than the distant object. Make sure the actual “depth of focus” that you have set is appropriate for what you want to shoot. See [color=rgb(120, 120, 120) !important]Depth of focus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for more details on depth of focus. Make sure that all the objects you need in focus really are in focus!

10. If you like what you see, you’re ready to go fly. Otherwise, simply start over from 1. above.

11. The focus calibration point you set will become the new “infinity” focus setting. You can recall this any time by tapping on the Infinity mark on the focus strip in the GO app. If you use Manual Focus you can either use the focus strip in the app or press the C1 button and the left thumbwheel to focus closer than the “Infinity” setting – you might want to do this for close-ups or to force the background to be out of focus and get some “bokeh” in the image to make the foreground stand out better. See [color=rgb(120, 120, 120) !important]Bokeh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .

For most aerial shots your “Infinity focus” will be all you need.

Important note 1: When using the Manual focus strip, you can tap on the close focus button (the flower) and the lens will focus on its closest possible distance. You can move focus point manually further away using the C1 button and the left thumbwheel.

On the other hand, if you tap on the Infinity mark, the lens will focus on the previously set calibrated distance. You can use the C1 button and the thumbwheel to adjust the focus closer or further from that distance if you want.

But there is a catch: If you use the C1 button and thumbwheel to move beyond the “Infinity distance” you used for calibration and then tap on the Infinity mark on the focus strip the GO app will not refocus the lens back to the Infinity mark distance!! You have to press on the close focus “flower” and then press the Infinity mark again.

Important note 2: In earlier versions of the GO app, the Manual Focus strip had some specific distance marks, and you could read when you reach certain distances such as 5m, 20m and so on. I used version 2.5.1 of the GO app for my testing and it no longer has specific focus marks – so you really don’t know what the actual distances are on the focus strip. Personally, I think this is a shame.

Also, watch out – the close focus flower and the Infinity mark are (for me) at the wrong, and counter-intuitive ends of the focusing strip. The flower is at the top, and the Infinity is at the bottom – they really should be the other way around. The left thumbwheel also goes the wrong way for me. I know beta testers have reported this to DJI, but it is still wrong – my muscle memory and intuition want it them to be transposed.

That said, I really like the concept of the Inspire 1 Pro – it’s a great step forward for professional photography, videography when it comes to an integrated system, and an easy to use camera system. But I have to say that it is very expensive for me and it does not work completely reliably for me. I certainly hope that there are some serious firmware and software updates in the next few months that will improve the reliability.

If anyone at DJI has any comments or suggestions on the above I would be very glad to see them.

This post would not be as precise and clear as it is, if there was no sincere help from Andy Johnson-Laird - I am greatly thankful Andy!

And a final apology if this topic has been covered on another thread – I hope the moderator will move this post where it belongs.

3. set focus assistant

3. set focus assistant

3. set focus peaking

3. set focus peaking

4, 5 set smallest f-stop

4, 5 set smallest f-stop

6.a calibrate

6.a calibrate

6.b calibrate now

6.b calibrate now

6.c switch to photo

6.c switch to photo

7.a autofocus

7.a autofocus

7.b manual focus

7.b manual focus

8. click ok

8. click ok

9. final check photo

9. final check photo
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Thank you very much for posting this.
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Thank you!
DJI has dropped the task of writing a thorough manual on the X5, not everyone has a background in professional photography.
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Derek Spear Posted at 2016-1-18 17:21
Thank you very much for posting this.

Some changes was made to my post, as I tested procedure in which you CAN use MF Foucs Assistant.
Hope this helps..
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LICENSED PILOT Posted at 2016-1-18 18:01
Thank you!
DJI has dropped the task of writing a thorough manual on the X5, not everyone has a backg ...

Some changes was made to my post, as I tested procedure in which you CAN use MF Foucs Assistant.
Hope this helps..
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Thank you for the tip on engaging MF after starting the calibration procedure.  I've found the AF to be really unreliable with the 14-42 zoom due to the smaller max aperture and I have always found it easier to judge infinity focus manually.  I tend to use light street lamps at night to judge infinity focus as it is very easy to see bright lights going in and out of focus, especially since most lenses have pink and green chromatic aberration when a high contrast area is slightly out of focus.
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Thank you for sharing this!  If you add couple of pictures to your post i'd like to move it to the forum main page
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DJI-Tim Posted at 2016-1-19 05:10
Thank you for sharing this!  If you add couple of pictures to your post i'd like to move it to the f ...

I'll do my best - in next day or two I'll get back with the appropriate pics... Thanks, and keep the good work
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DrMrdalj Posted at 2016-1-19 17:28
I'll do my best - in next day or two I'll get back with the appropriate pics... Thanks, and keep t ...

Alright! whenever you ready just @ me
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Very well researched, carefully worded with clear explanation, and in the proper sequence, step by step.  Perfect.  Thank you!   Oh, and your correct reference to "circle of confusion" did not go unnoticed!  Very thorough.  Wonderful.
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Great post, Momir! Thank's!
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DJI-Tim Posted at 2016-1-19 11:13
Alright! whenever you ready just @ me

I got some photos attached to the post... If better are needed just note me...
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It's amazing how much of valuable information can be written about advanced X5 lens calibrating. It's also hard to believe that such elaborate procedure can be condensed into " Set X5 camera 50m away from contrasted target and hit CALIBRATE button"... I was about to slap another few hundred bucks on Olympus M.Zuiko 45mm to make a nice couple with my 12mm jewel, when one crazy thought crossed my mind ... Do we have to calibrate the camera every time we switch lenses? If that's the truth ((I hope not), than the very base of X5 concept goes smoothly down the drain!
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Thank you for this great thread, Momid!
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6. Now choose Menu > Settings (wrench key) > Calibration > Calibrate Now and the Go app will switch to Video Mode and enable Autofocus (AF) mode. This is where you need to tap on the Video/Photo button and switch back to Photo Mode (leaving it in Autofocus).

I do not get a CALIBRATION item after selecting Menu > Settings (wrench key) ???
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LICENSED PILOT Posted at 2016-3-14 14:11
6. Now choose Menu > Settings (wrench key) > Calibration > Calibrate Now and the Go app will switch  ...

Take your lens off, turn on the bird with the go app on, then turn it back off, attach the lens and refire the bird up, it will now show the calibration prompt.
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njabinc Posted at 2016-3-14 19:03
Take your lens off, turn on the bird with the go app on, then turn it back off, attach the lens an ...

thanks, I'll try that.
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Any suggestions when calibrating the 14-42 Lens? What focal length do you think it should be set at when doing the calibration?
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If you need to calibrate your video camera easiest way is to do with pattern generator
We did many calibrations for profesional cameras and mini monittors
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Also I need help to find SDI Redundancy Switch any suggestions
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dobmatt Posted at 2016-1-24 23:50
It's amazing how much of valuable information can be written about advanced X5 lens calibrating. It' ...

– Do we have to calibrate the camera every time we switch lenses? If that's the truth ((I hope not), than the very base of X5 concept goes smoothly down the drain!

Anyone know about this?

Kind regards // Alex
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I am also having lots of trouble with the focus. And its annoying because you always get the same questions. Did you calibrate the lens, are you in MF mode. YES!

The main issue is the calibration. We are led to believe that if we calibrate the lens to a high contrast object at least 50m away then everything from 25m to infinity will be in focus, but its not! I done exactly as stated in the instructions and the background was all out of focus.
What I have found is that you should calibrate the lens when you are flying. Then calibrate the lens on the area you want to be in focus. For landscape this could be at least 300m probably more, not 50m!

This is a real issue with these things, because the amount of times I have taken photos, and they looked fine on the iPad, but then when I got home and looked at them on my computer and found out they were actually out of focus, well it feels like a lottery, and its not acceptable for something that is supposed to be a really good camera.
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Derek Spear Posted at 2016-1-19 00:21
Thank you very much for posting this.

Yes this is very good. But I think the distant objects once he takes off won't be in focus. Thats what I found. So do this but use a further away object. But I could be wrong.
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HAILSTONE AERIA Posted at 2016-10-25 15:00
I am also having lots of trouble with the focus. And its annoying because you always get the same questions. Did you calibrate the lens, are you in MF mode. YES!

The main issue is the calibration. We are led to believe that if we calibrate the lens to a high contrast object at least 50m away then everything from 25m to infinity will be in focus, but its not! I done exactly as stated in the instructions and the background was all out of focus.

I seem to be having the opposite problem with the X5 on my Osmo Pro.  On the iPhone screen everything looks horribly out of focus but when I take a picture it all seems quite sharp.
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Quick question, is this setting Phone dependent or once set up correctly you can use whatever phone or tablet? I am asking since when I tried with another phone I had a message telling that I had to set up again the Focus??

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I've noticed an odd issue with the Inspire 2 and the X5S camera.  The image focus changes between the Still and Video mode a bit at infinity.  I can see the Focus Peaking red borders shift a bit between them for some reason.

More odd was this occurred with a manual focus Laowa 7.5mm lens that I focused on a cell tower maybe 400-500 feet away for infinity setup.  The lens cannot change focus having no AF motor, nor is it chipped to the camera as it is a dumb lens.  Baffles me, and only thing I can think of is if the image on the iPad from the camera changes resolution or quality of the JPEG maybe between Video and Still mode.

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is it good for the inspire 2 also , I have the X5 and the 17 mm, 25mm and 45 mm olympus lenses?

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This is an awesome post - really thorough info - thanks so much for sharing
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is it good for the inspire 2 also , I have the X5 and the 17 mm, 25mm and 45 mm olympus lenses?

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You need to update your instructions as the distance for 15mm lens is to be 15m.....yet you say find an object not less than 50m away.  Your instructions should read to position the camera away from the target exactly the distance you require for each lens to be calibrated.
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You need to update your instructions as the distance for 15mm lens is to be 15m.....yet you say find an object not less than 50m away.  Your instructions should read to position the camera away from the target exactly the distance you require for each lens to be calibrated.
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