Will Cinelight be updated to handle REC 2020 color space?
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Now that there are more computers (e.g. the new Mac Powerbook Pros) that have screens that can display a wider color gamut and HDR TVs are becomming more common, will Cinelight be updated. For that matter will there be a need for a firmware upgrade to adjust for the newer color space?
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No need for a firmware for the camera for Rec2020, it shots in RAW so no colour space applied until the DNG stacks are processed. Maybe Cinelight could do this at some point, however, if you output you DNG stacks using Resolve you can pop it into several colour spaces. Not sure if Resolve has 2020 in there yet either. Rec2020 is someway off being classed as the base colour space for broadcast and TV's. I really wouldn't worry about for another few years.
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iSkyUnmannedSys Posted at 2016-10-31 22:21
No need for a firmware for the camera for Rec2020, it shots in RAW so no colour space applied until  ...

Thanks for the first part. Raw indeed is as the name states, RAW.

Resolve does Rec 709 only at the present moment.
As for the shift to REC 2020, it could happen sooner than you think. I didn't think much of 4K when it first appeared but like the Retina display on the Mac / iPhones - once you get a whiff of discernably better image quality, you get spoiled.
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Mike-the-cat Posted at 2016-10-31 14:54
Thanks for the first part. Raw indeed is as the name states, RAW.

Resolve does Rec 709 only at t ...

Wonder how long before Resolve push the 2020 LUT out?

LUT for Resolve here btw https://iaremrsir.wordpress.com/downloads/
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iSkyUnmannedSys Posted at 2016-10-31 23:04
Wonder how long before Resolve push the 2020 LUT out?

LUT for Resolve here btw https://iaremrsir.w ...

Thanks for your prompt response.

Have to wait for the new MBP to arrive to test how much difference the new color space makes. I don't have a high spec monitor presently and am using my Samsung TV to edit.

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If I could be bothered I'd give it a shot on my 5K iMac lol I have been playing with it a bit already. I've seen various comparison shots and it does make a big difference with the extra space, which you would expect of course. I think people will be coming more aware of it due to FCPX 10.3 now it's built in. It's still a few years off before it is a standard, guess it depends on your client needs and if they require it in 2020.
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iSkyUnmannedSys Posted at 2016-11-1 00:40
If I could be bothered I'd give it a shot on my 5K iMac lol I have been playing with it a bit alread ...

Thanks again. Back to my original point, Cinelight needs to convert the RAW files into REC 2020 space before programs like FCPX 10.3 can use the expanded color space. DJI have not responded to this query. It may be baked in when the Inspire 2 is released but so far they have kept mum.

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I've passed along the suggestion to the appropriate team to look into. I'll let you know what I find.
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iSkyUnmannedSys Posted at 2016-10-31 23:04
Wonder how long before Resolve push the 2020 LUT out?

LUT for Resolve here btw https://iaremrsir.w ...

Resolve does have a color space preset for 'P3-D60' which is a wider gamut than REC 709 but that is only helpful if the .DNGs are in that expanded space. We (or at least I) don't know. Will see what Jamie says later (she's checking with the engineers).
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Mike-the-cat Posted at 2016-11-3 12:56
Resolve does have a color space preset for 'P3-D60' which is a wider gamut than REC 709 but that is ...

Resolve does have Rec.2020 if you look for it, two versions actually.
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iSkyUnmannedSys Posted at 2016-11-5 05:00
Resolve does have Rec.2020 if you look for it, two versions actually.

Pardon my ignorance but is this in the Colour tab in the workflow? I only have the free version and perhaps this is why I don't see those options.
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Mike-the-cat Posted at 2016-11-5 19:33
Pardon my ignorance but is this in the Colour tab in the workflow? I only have the free version an ...

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Thanks much!
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