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Tahoe Ed Posted at 2016-11-15 18:52
NO.  You do not have to yell.

Ed, why did you say No? The remote has a USB
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trance728 Posted at 2016-11-15 23:48
Also the P4 Pro has more obstacle avoidance sensors than the Mavic, very big plus.

All of that obstacle avoidance is for newbie flyers who are scared about flying and crashing. Wouldn't see it as much of a benefit. If you don't have a car, you'll hate travelling with a Phantom 4 Pro. Pain in the ass to carry around in a backpack.
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Another for anyone ...

What does "DJI Official Store" mean?  I see reference to that on Newegg's site, as in "Pre-order now, Item will be shipped on 11/25 By DJI Official Store."  Noting that it says "DJI Official Store," not shipped by Newegg.

Is this just a re-seller on paper, and the unit is shipped directly from DJI in China?
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Why doesn't DJI fix the product that's already been sold first? The phantom 4 upgrade issues are still a problem!!!!
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hallmark007 Posted at 2016-11-15 13:23
Can monitor be used on Mavic

Great question and when do you expect this CrystalSky display to release?
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-11-15 17:58
Yes, as long as it's one of the DJI recommended devices, same as for the Inspire, P4, P3.

Sorry, meant to direct this to you, Ken, via one of your posts.  This is cut and pasted from an earlier post of mine.  Note that in my other post in the 5th paragraph, I meant to write Mavic Pro 2, not Mavic Pro.  I have corrected that here.

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Evening, Ken.

Well, this keeps getting "interestinger and interestinger."  Can you distill down for me a comparison between the Mavic and the Phantom 4 Pro?

An easy starter question is, does the P4 Pro have everything the Mavic has and more?  Or, are there Mavic features that are not available with the P4 Pro?  But, what else can you tell me re pros and cons?

And, in the spirit of "fool me once shame on DJI, fool me twice shame on me," what can be believed about DJI's claims of availability and shipping for the P4 Pro?  And, since DJI has lost credibility with respect to direct orders (not being snarky, just an honest observation), when will the P4 Pro be available through tier one re-sellers, and through Amazon?

When will we see an upward avoidance sensor on either the P4 Pro or Mavic?  (And, when will we see the rear and sideways sensors on the Mavic?)

Moreover, I’ve seen references to a Mavic Pro 2 and a Phantom 5 already on the horizon.  The latter being referenced as to be available in March.  The former having no specific release referenced, though presumably next year.  What can you tell me about this?  Because of the coming winter, I am within only a couple weeks of not being able to fly a drone until next spring, so waiting for future or updated models is a real option.

Finally, there is no shortage of videos available, including on DJI's site, that either show or suggest flights being made that are clearly beyond visual sight.  (For both the Mavic and now the P4 Pro.)  Can you reconcile that for me with respect to the FAA's requirement that unassisted (except for corrective eyeglasses) line of sight must be maintained?
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Pierre35 Posted at 2016-11-15 18:46
Portability = Mavic
Quality footage = Phantom 4 Pro
There, choose your poison. For me as I use my dr ...

Thanks, Pierre.
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trance728 Posted at 2016-11-15 18:48
Also the P4 Pro has more obstacle avoidance sensors than the Mavic, very big plus.

Thanks, trance.
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Noyag Posted at 2016-11-16 05:11
Can it have the HDMI-port too? Similar as the Phantom 4?

Ditto, thats what I want to know.
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-11-16 05:23
The P4 does not have an HDMI output. There's the HDMI module that you can install on a P3 or P4.
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Bummer..  hopefully there will be an adapter like with the P3 and P4 offered in the future.
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Gary UNY Posted at 2016-11-16 00:42
This is for anyone out there ...

What is Litchi?  It seems to me that it is an app that simply offe ...

Litchi has most of what dji go has, some of its features like autonomous mission flying are much simpler to use than dji go, also it has other features like 360x180 panorama shooting ability, it cost $20 , and having used it for its low cost I would recommend.
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Will the P4P Camera Module, (which i'm assuming will eventually be a spare part) work with the P4?
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Great update to the 4 and particularly good for the Phantom 3 Pro owners who are looking to upgrade. Im still going with Mavic (and patiently waiting for delivery despite ordering in Sep) as I'm not a serious filmmaker and really want the portability.
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Tahoe Ed Posted at 2016-11-16 00:54
We don't know.  I don't use the Litchi App.  Right now I am not going to attempt to do a download  ...

Will monitor be able to be used with Mavic or will there be an alternative for Mavic
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To clarify
Battery is same as P4 but less mah.
Controller is now 2.4ghz AND 5.8ghz Lightbridge V1.5 versB and NOT compatible with older P4 controllers.
Cannot use same ND filters as the camera barrel is larger on the P4Pro (you probably wont need to anymore as it has a mechanical shutter).
You need a wireless connection or hotspot for the controller with built in display to pre-cache maps.

So the only interchangeable parts on an P4 and P4pro are:
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SD card (maybe not if you are using 4k@60fps 100mbs).
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I assume if you get the Plus+ Version, the controller and display may not fit into the original backpack without hacking.

After reading all this.. I think Frank has kept the Mavic separate from the Phantom and Inspire divisions to make them highly competitive.
I find it funny that only the mavic series uses occusync to prevent the Phantom from using their goggles.
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-11-15 21:23
The P4 does not have an HDMI output. There's the HDMI module that you can install on a P3 or P4.
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Will the standard  shell backpack fit the P4 pro + ?
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any clue on when it will hit the shelf at Best Buy or apple??
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trance728 Posted at 2016-11-15 23:27
I was just trying to clarify, no worries. Did you see my other response about there being 2 versio ...

Yes, yes, thank you..! I went off to check it out on Youtube. Now I am game for this one. Much more improvements, well done DJI. Awesome.

Thanks again friend.
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symbol Posted at 2016-11-15 23:31
Well then you are doing great. Your software doesn't allow for caps on or off, that's an upgrade y ...

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Gary UNY Posted at 2016-11-15 23:42
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What is Litchi?  It seems to me that it is an app that simply offe ...

Garry it is a software allows you to put the caps-lock on. ;)
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Tahoe Ed Posted at 2016-11-15 20:09
They will be available.  The website will be updated tonight.

Having not had a P4 before I  just wondered if the legs get in the shot when the gimbal is rotated?
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Tahoe Ed Posted at 2016-11-15 23:52
NO.  You do not have to yell.

Tahoe ED, are you in Lake Tahoe?
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-11-15 14:15
If you order the aircraft, then place another order for the accessories then that's two totally se ...

Just order 2 of them so you can trouble shoot in stereo both at the same time , more fun .. becomes like Rubik's cube lol  watching this commercial reminds me of DJI , doesn't work well but I gotta have it...
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hallmark007 Posted at 2016-11-15 19:09
Litchi has most of what dji go has, some of its features like autonomous mission flying are much s ...

Interesting.  The ability for panorama might just itself make it worth the $20.

Thanks for the explanation, hallmark.  When you get a chance, how 'bout the meaning of life in 50 words or less!

All I need now is a drone with which to use it!  DJI just keeps ratcheting up things, and I am now torn between the Mavic and the P4 Pro.

Oh well, in the meantime I'll keep practicing with my Syma!
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fansf97dc459 Posted at 2016-11-16 05:29
By March of 2017 P5 Pro will be out and P4 Pro is like Mavic Pro lol..

lmao I was thinking the same thing lol
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For anyone interested here is a video of the new P4Pro. All I can say is wow. Now I have to decide do I want portability or wow?

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Antonov Posted at 2016-11-15 19:50
Garry it is a software allows you to put the caps-lock on. ;)

ROF LMAO!!!  (Clearly I just downloaded it!)
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Gary UNY Posted at 2016-11-16 01:00
Interesting.  The ability for panorama might just itself make it worth the $20.

Thanks for the ex ...

Gary, I was joking earlier... It is same as DJI Go app with a FPV mode and autonomous flight features, basically you can program it and hit the button, it will fly itself whilst you are making a cup of tea.

Syma, oh man o man that is a very difficult drone to mess with. We use easy and controlled birds here like Phantoms. Must try it. You never looked back. Depending what you are doing, for fun pick  the Mavic.
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Enkeixpress Posted at 2016-11-15 18:55
All of that obstacle avoidance is for newbie flyers who are scared about flying and crashing. Woul ...

Well, as a newbie it's good with me.  Hell, if I had obstacle avoidance 35 years ago I would have never gotten married!
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Gary UNY Posted at 2016-11-16 01:05
ROF LMAO!!!  (Clearly I just downloaded it!)

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Woodwanger Posted at 2016-11-15 19:51
Having not had a P4 before I  just wondered if the legs get in the shot when the gimbal is rotated ...

If the camera can be rotated 360 degrees, or even 180 degrees, then most assuredly.

What I'm wondering is if the front propellers get in the camera view when going full speed.  If memory serves, from a Mavic vs. P4 comparative video I saw, they did with the P4, and one of the big plusses for the Mavic is that they do not.

DJI-Ken?  Tahoe ED?
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Gary UNY Posted at 2016-11-16 01:05
ROF LMAO!!!  (Clearly I just downloaded it!)

............for those of you dunno what it is, insanely 16,573,760 views..!

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Antonov Posted at 2016-11-15 20:08
Gary, I was joking earlier... It is same as DJI Go app with a FPV mode and autonomous flight featur ...

Thanks, Antonov, for the additional information.  No worries, I enjoyed your sense of humor!

If I may, some follow-up questions:

1) Perhaps I do not understand what FPV is.  My understanding is that it means the ability to fly using the smart phone screen being used with the remote controller, as opposed to "eyes on" line of sight visual.  But, since you reference it as a Litchi feature not in the Go App, what does is this feature?

2) It also sounds that Litchi's autonomous flight features are different than Go Apps?  I thought the Mavic already came with autonomous flight.  What am I missing here?  And, is the same as waypoint flight, or something else?

3) Will the Litchi CAPS LOCK feature work on smart phones and tablets, or is it designed just for notebooks and desktops?

As for the Syma, damn skippy it can be tough to fly!

I got it specifically to practice flying a quad, as I have never flown before.  It's got the basics even if handling is crude, it's a pretty tough little guy, and it's only $50!  Cheap experience.

Plus, I figured if I can manage to fly a relatively unsophisticated drone that doesn't have the elegance of control the Mavic does, then I'd be in pretty good shape.

Then there's that whole immediate gratification thing about taking flight while waiting for either the Mavic to arrive or Sandra Bullock to return my phone call, whichever comes first!  (At this point, my money's on the call back.)
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Gary UNY Posted at 2016-11-16 01:31
Thanks, Antonov, for the additional information.  No worries, I enjoyed your sense of humor!

If I ...

Glad humour worked. We are on the way becoming a robot soon, too many electronics, less room for laughter. Just saying.

1- please watch this video

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Gary UNY Posted at 2016-11-16 01:31
Thanks, Antonov, for the additional information.  No worries, I enjoyed your sense of humor!

If I ...

2- please watch this video;

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Gary UNY Posted at 2016-11-16 01:31
Thanks, Antonov, for the additional information.  No worries, I enjoyed your sense of humor!

If I ...

3- Caps-On, Caps-Off is a joke, bad one. Someone started it here, me writing with Caps-On. Ignore. ;)
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Gary UNY Posted at 2016-11-16 01:31
Thanks, Antonov, for the additional information.  No worries, I enjoyed your sense of humor!

If I ...

....as for the Syma, and all racing non-GPS flight featured drones, it is almost impossible to hold position, you end up fighting the RC sticks, and loosing it. So, pass that on and grab a DJI, Mavic, nice little flyer, then one day you can try the Phantom, but that is for more serious video work. No need it if you are only going to have fun. ;)

I hope it helps, now back to ROFLMAO
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Gary UNY Posted at 2016-11-16 01:31
Thanks, Antonov, for the additional information.  No worries, I enjoyed your sense of humor!

If I ...

Finally, I'd pass on Sandra, I heard she has balls... {:4_117:}
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fansf97dc459 Posted at 2016-11-16 04:29
By March of 2017 P5 Pro will be out and P4 Pro is like Mavic Pro lol..

P4Pro is much better than the MavicPro unless you need to have the portability. The camera is in a whole different league.
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Darn it.  I just bought my P4 with lots of accesories so here are my questions

1) Can I use the P4 batteries on a P4 Pro?
2) I bought a car adapter for my P4, will it work in the P4 Pro batteries?
3) The P4 Pro controller with built-in monitor, if I buy the one WITHOUT and then later on, I decided that I want the monitor, can I buy and connect it  or they are two totally different form factor controller?
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