Currently my Mini 3 Pro has a ceiling of 500meters. If I remain at 120meters (400 feet actually) AGL in the U.S. I can fly up a hillside to a maximum of 1640feet.  Is that still true on the Mini 4 Pro? Ahhh...this question came by way of a Reddit thread. Apparently new laws in the E.U. may be limiting the M4P to 120m above launch....period. Dunno for sure.

never heard of that. didn't know that you could to that.

This one is a deal breaker for me, there are situations, where even for 10sec you need to break the limit, also do I need to climb to the mountain top, to shoot? 120m limit is implemented as height from takeoff point, not 120m AGL, DJI drones do not follow terrain.

Im seeing this comment on a lot of the review videos and a few software releases back DJI did implement this which they then had to roll back.  

With the new EU regulation - for the EU - DJI has to homologate the Mini drone as a C0/C1/C2/... category, which forces the ceiling ot be 120m, so as per regulation. Until C4 category in OPEN (no license for pilot), ceiling is limited to 120m. From C1, they need a remote ID, which the mini 4 pro hasn't.

greg_p Posted at 9-26 01:22
With the new EU regulation - for the EU - DJI has to homologate the Mini drone as a C0/C1/C2/... category, which forces the ceiling ot be 120m, so as per regulation. Until C4 category in OPEN (no license for pilot), ceiling is limited to 120m. From C1, they need a remote ID, which the mini 4 pro hasn't.

Well, the new EU regulations are 120AGL, but DJI implements 120m from takeoff point, there is a huge difference.. Imagine you are in the valley, the hill in front is 110m, so on top you are 10m AGL, the EU regulations allow 120m terrain follow, also imagine you have obstacle in front 120m, EU regulations allow 15m above the obstacle so 135m, but you are limited by the drone

travelmate Posted at 9-26 01:37
Well, the new EU regulations are 120AGL, but DJI implements 120m from takeoff point, there is a huge difference.. Imagine you are in the valley, the hill in front is 110m, so on top you are 10m AGL, the EU regulations allow 120m terrain follow, also imagine you have obstacle in front 120m, EU regulations allow 15m above the obstacle so 135m, but you[view_image] are limited by the drone

But for C0 drones it is 120 m from take off point.

djiuser_qUcuqvrnqwtr Posted at 9-26 01:48
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But for C0 drones it is 120 m from take off point.

Then, I'm not buying, I'll stick to my mini 2

djiuser_qUcuqvrnqwtr Posted at 9-26 01:48
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But for C0 drones it is 120 m from take off point.

Needs deletion.

djiuser_qUcuqvrnqwtr Posted at 9-26 01:48
[view_image]
But for C0 drones it is 120 m from take off point.

I think this a 2019 reg, not sure it is still in force. We will see.

Mavic57pro2 Posted at 9-26 03:03
I think this a 2019 reg, not sure it is still in force. We will see.

it is final version, implementation is just deleyed to 2024

greg_p Posted at 9-26 01:22
With the new EU regulation - for the EU - DJI has to homologate the Mini drone as a C0/C1/C2/... category, which forces the ceiling ot be 120m, so as per regulation. Until C4 category in OPEN (no license for pilot), ceiling is limited to 120m. From C1, they need a remote ID, which the mini 4 pro hasn't.

The EASA defines the max flight height above ground level. So a software restriction to 120m above home point is not correct and should not be this way in any drone with C classification. Neither my C1 Mavic 3 nor the C1 Air 3 are limited to 120m, you can configure them up to 500m afairc.

We had such problem with the Mini 3 Pro severeal weeks ago and it has been corrected with a firmware update. I think same should be done with the M4P.

See here:
https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/do ... tegory-civil-drones

'above ground level', not home point.

that's the regulation starting from the 1st Jan 2024. Before, this pages defines C0 Category with 120m above starting point.
https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/do ... MQvTWjcLpsvK618Vf61

This is so messy...

travelmate Posted at 9-25 22:04
This one is a deal breaker for me, there are situations, where even for 10sec you need to break the limit, also do I need to climb to the mountain top, to shoot? 120m limit is implemented as height from takeoff point, not 120m AGL, DJI drones do not follow terrain.

The Mini 4 Pro can be set to 500 metres maximum altitude, mine has the C0 marking, see photo. Im in the UK.

Mavic57pro2 Posted at 9-26 07:43
The Mini 4 Pro can be set to 500 metres maximum altitude, mine has the C0 marking, see photo. Im in the UK.

Thank you for confirming. I'm in the UK and really wanted to know this before unsealing the box this evening! You've answered my exact question so thanks very much.

travelmate Posted at 9-25 22:04
This one is a deal breaker for me, there are situations, where even for 10sec you need to break the limit, also do I need to climb to the mountain top, to shoot? 120m limit is implemented as height from takeoff point, not 120m AGL, DJI drones do not follow terrain.

This appears to be an E.U. problem, not applicable in other countries as far as I know. I have heard no conformation on this issue other than in this thread.

DAFlys Posted at 9-26 00:56
Im seeing this comment on a lot of the review videos and a few software releases back DJI did implement this which they then had to roll back.

point us to some of them please

digibud Posted at 9-26 08:14
point us to some of them please

Its been confirmed, main land Eu = 120m,    US/UK will be 500m.

I wonder if I will take the mini 4 pro drone purchased in the USA to Europe,   Will this drone have a 120 meters (or 400 feet) above the takeoff point limitation?

eu regulation only says the drone must have an adjustable limit. they dont say it must be 120m.

regulation is 120m agl. and its the pilots responisibility.

Dear DJI,
Correct this ASAP for your EU customers.

djiuser_qUcuqvrnqwtr Posted at 9-26 01:48
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But for C0 drones it is 120 m from take off point.

it's wrong. i dont know where you got the screenshot. in austria (eu) it is the weigt under 250g.

and
max agl 120m
must be in sight
over people sometimes restricted.

this 3 restrictions the pilot is responsible for. not the drone per se. what the drone must have is an adjustable maximum hight. but it is not defined as max 120m

djiuser_Xwb3iJOC1iqx Posted at 9-26 09:30
it's wrong. i dont know where you got the screenshot. in austria (eu) it is the weigt under 250g.

and

exactly it is 120m from the ground

fansc4a250be Posted at 9-26 07:57
Thank you for confirming. I'm in the UK and really wanted to know this before unsealing the box this evening! You've answered my exact question so thanks very much.

Glad to be of help, so much speculation about with a new drone.

120m or 400 feet is the max height you are allow to fly. Because its the freaking law. Aircraft usually fly 500 feet that is why you are limit to 400 feet. Why are people trying to break this limit so badly. The drone does not know if you are flying over a hill, so it will only record height from where it take off. One day these silly goose will hack their drones to fly into aircraft space and bring a aircraft down. Then we will have more drone laws. Smh. Follow the law folks. Not hard.

djiuser_zKR5HFX3a2EC Posted at 9-26 11:42
120m or 400 feet is the max height you are allow to fly. Because its the freaking law. Aircraft usually fly 500 feet that is why you are limit to 400 feet. Why are people trying to break this limit so badly. The drone does not know if you are flying over a hill, so it will only record height from where it take off. One day these silly goose will hack their drones to fly into aircraft space and bring a aircraft down. Then we will have more drone laws. Smh. Follow the law folks. Not hard.

Um, excuse me adults are talking here!

djiuser_zKR5HFX3a2EC Posted at 9-26 11:42
120m or 400 feet is the max height you are allow to fly. Because its the freaking law. Aircraft usually fly 500 feet that is why you are limit to 400 feet. Why are people trying to break this limit so badly. The drone does not know if you are flying over a hill, so it will only record height from where it take off. One day these silly goose will hack their drones to fly into aircraft space and bring a aircraft down. Then we will have more drone laws. Smh. Follow the law folks. Not hard.

Your missing the point and I understand your point. If you take off at point A, follow the slope of  a mountain that rises to say 200m call it point b, as long as the drone to the ground directly below is <= 120m its legal, however you may be at a legal altitude point b compared to point A of 320m.

You must fly back to point A maintaining 120m max from the ground below the drone.

Now if you can only set max altitude to 120m, you wont be able to physical and legally fly the route desribed above, the drone will stop rising at 120m from point A, even though it may be only 20m above the ground.

Hopefully I explained this ?

djiuser_qUcuqvrnqwtr Posted at 9-26 01:48
[view_image]
But for C0 drones it is 120 m from take off point.

Wording changed obviously..... vague previously on C0 but corrected now.

In real terms, it can be assumed that the "ground level" changes during a flight to a hill or mountain and that I can fly at the mountain, e.g. at an altitude of 120m, but still at an altitude of 240m, because the "ground level" has formed again - Seems to be not allowed, because I understand that only the starting point is used as the base altitude ?

That makes sense

travelmate Posted at 9-26 01:37
Well, the new EU regulations are 120AGL, but DJI implements 120m from takeoff point, there is a huge difference.. Imagine you are in the valley, the hill in front is 110m, so on top you are 10m AGL, the EU regulations allow 120m terrain follow, also imagine you have obstacle in front 120m, EU regulations allow 15m above the obstacle so 135m, but you[view_image] are limited by the drone

you had some of those arrows angled from the terrain but they should all be vertical. It would be 120m directly above the ground...not at 90 to the terrain...

digibud Posted at 9-26 17:13
you had some of those arrows angled from the terrain but they should all be vertical. It would be 120m directly above the ground...not at 90 to the terrain...

In the US you are correct, but in the UK and EU the drawing is correct.

Space Dream Posted at 9-26 13:19
In real terms, it can be assumed that the "ground level" changes during a flight to a hill or mountain and that I can fly at the mountain, e.g. at an altitude of 120m, but still at an altitude of 240m, because the "ground level" has formed again - Seems to be not allowed, because I understand that only the starting point is used as the base altitude ?

I'm not sure of what you meant by "formed again" but in the US at least, the bottom line is you are allowed to be up to 400feet above the ground (directly above...not 90deg to the slope as the graphic showed). I have many videos where my drone is 1000 feet above me on a mountain slope yet well withing 400 feet AGL above the hillside. Drones, btw...are easy to see against a white snowy hillside .  I think we're all mostly saying the same stuff but it can be confusing and the England vs EU vs US....sheesh.

Mobilehomer Posted at 9-26 17:16
In the US you are correct, but in the UK and EU the drawing is correct.

thanks for the education. my bad

Mavic57pro2 Posted at 9-26 12:53
Your missing the point and I understand your point. If you take off at point A, follow the slope of  a mountain that rises to say 200m call it point b, as long as the drone to the ground directly below is

I know what the law is but now lets say youre at ground level and you fly upside a mountain, how do you know if youre flying above or below 120m?

djiuser_zKR5HFX3a2EC Posted at 9-26 11:42
120m or 400 feet is the max height you are allow to fly. Because its the freaking law. Aircraft usually fly 500 feet that is why you are limit to 400 feet. Why are people trying to break this limit so badly. The drone does not know if you are flying over a hill, so it will only record height from where it take off. One day these silly goose will hack their drones to fly into aircraft space and bring a aircraft down. Then we will have more drone laws. Smh. Follow the law folks. Not hard.

Grown-up flyers understand that the world isn't pancake-flat.

djiuser_Xwb3iJOC1iqx Posted at 9-26 09:30
it's wrong. i dont know where you got the screenshot. in austria (eu) it is the weigt under 250g.

and

It is not wrong, open category is one thing, second is C0 class where drones are limited by this C0 class to fly 120m above starting point. The law is 945 and 947 regulations not EASA graphics on websites.

djiuser_zKR5HFX3a2EC Posted at 9-26 11:42
120m or 400 feet is the max height you are allow to fly. Because its the freaking law. Aircraft usually fly 500 feet that is why you are limit to 400 feet. Why are people trying to break this limit so badly. The drone does not know if you are flying over a hill, so it will only record height from where it take off. One day these silly goose will hack their drones to fly into aircraft space and bring a aircraft down. Then we will have more drone laws. Smh. Follow the law folks. Not hard.

120m from the ground ,not from where you took off. And also you are in the US ,why do you care what we do in EU?

The hack may not be that far...

People, ESPECIALLY EU OWNERS OF OTHER MINI SERIES DRONES, check Paladin's post number 12 of the thread

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... 1&extra=#pid3140282

"Mini 4 in EASA will be capped to 120m no matter what"


the relevant bit of post 12 is

"In accordance with the same European Drone Regulation, all other currently-available drones of the DJI Mini series (e.g. Mini 2 SE, Mini 3, Mini 3 Pro) will be restricted to an altitude limit of 120m later this year via a DJI firmware update. Customers of the above-named, currently-available DJI Mini-series drones (before Mini 4 Pro) will be able to apply retroactively for C0 class identification labels in Q4 this year via a process we will share in due course. Thank you for your understanding and support."