Hi,
I asked German air traffic control whether I could fly with the heavier plus battery after upgrading the Mini 4 Pro to the C1 label. The answer was that I can fly with c1, the heavier battery in the mini 4 pro. BUT: where can I buy the intelligence flight battery plus???? In Europe you cannot buy the Intelligent flight plus battery in the DJI online shop.

Best Regards,
Frank

Currently, DJI does not offer the Plus battery in the European market. Therefore, it is difficult to obtain it through an official DJI dealer. I would be cautious with internet offers, as they often sell non-original batteries.

Hi, Frank. Thank you for reaching out. MKmini4 is correct, regretfully, we don't sell Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in Europe. You can purchase from other regions and bring it to Europe in a compliant method.

You may violate the laws or regulations if you use Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in the EU. We recommend that you always check and strictly abide by local laws and regulations before flying. Have a safe flight always!

I bought mine from eBay,  theres a few people importing them.  

DJI Gamora Posted at 3-24 17:12
Hi, Frank. Thank you for reaching out. MKmini4 is correct, regretfully, we don't sell Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in Europe. You can purchase from other regions and bring it to Europe in a compliant method.

You may violate the laws or regulations if you use Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in the EU. We recommend that you always check and strictly abide by local laws and regulations before flying. Have a safe flight always!

Can you reasonably explain why people in Europe have to use smaller batteries? Who will forbid me from flying my drone longer? It does not make sense! What law prohibits something like using larger batteries? I was thinking about buying a drone from dji, but if it's going to look like this, I'll probably give up because it's just pathetic.

DJI do not prohibit the use of extended batteries, but they just don't officially support them either. This is IMO against DJI's business interests, especially considering that they have recently banned the use of aftermarket extended batteries in the latest firmware version.

I would understand this move for drones that are strictly in the C0 category (which all M4Ps are when sold), but not for drones that have been officially declassified (with all the advantages and disadvantages that this process entails), or for M4Ps that has been officially upgraded to the C1 category with Care Refresh (due to the officially provided extended warranty). In general, it makes no sense to de facto prohibit this in the EU.

Unfortunately, since I purchased the M4P last year, DJI's changes have always been for the worse, with a few minor exceptions.

M4P already knows if it is equipped with regular or plus battery and in older SW versions there was warning when using even regular M3P batteries which are just few grams heavier, that it is not C0 compliant. I assume it could be processed on SW level that drone in C0 won't take of with plus batteries as it is now with aftermarket ones. But it would require lot of warnings on DJI/seller level, that batteries work just with C1 drone and not with C0, otherwise there would be lot of returns and disappointed buyers.

XdekHckr Posted at 5-28 15:44
Can you reasonably explain why people in Europe have to use smaller batteries? Who will forbid me from flying my drone longer? It does not make sense! What law prohibits something like using larger batteries? I was thinking about buying a drone from dji, but if it's going to look like this, I'll probably give up because it's just pathetic.

Hi there,

We understand your frustration. We are truly sorry for the inconvenience you are experiencing. C1 class drones such as DJI Mini 4 Pro are allowed to use Intelligent Flight Battery Plus and you can purchase them from other regions and bring it to Europe in a compliant method. Unfortunately, due to violation laws or regulations Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in EU, DJI does not sell Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in EU.

Thank You for your feedback, we will forward this information to the relevant team for evaluation.
If you have any other questions, kindly let us know. Thank You!

Jan Spacil Posted at 5-28 22:15
DJI do not prohibit the use of extended batteries, but they just don't officially support them either. This is IMO against DJI's business interests, especially considering that they have recently banned the use of aftermarket extended batteries in the latest firmware version.

I would understand this move for drones that are strictly in the C0 category (which all M4Ps are when sold), but not for drones that have been officially declassified (with all the advantages and disadvantages that this process entails), or for M4Ps that has been officially upgraded to the C1 category with Care Refresh (due to the officially provided extended warranty). In general, it makes no sense to de facto prohibit this in the EU.

Hi there,

We are truly sorry for the inconvenience you are experiencing.

Thank you for your recommendations. Please rest assured that we will forward your feedback to the related department for evaluation. In the future, we will optimize and improve the product or service based on user comments.

Thank you for your support and understanding.

Hi, I bought Dji Mini 4 Pro with intelligent flight battery plus from USA,  try to use in EU but doesn't allow to use, how I can solve the problem? If I will buy C0 battery,  is the problem will solve?

djiuser_UdlYeEMPT585 Posted at 7-28 00:42
Hi, I bought Dji Mini 4 Pro with intelligent flight battery plus from USA,  try to use in EU but doesn't allow to use, how I can solve the problem? If I will buy C0 battery,  is the problem will solve?

Hi there, thank you for reaching out.  DJI Mini 4 Pro will support the RID function after being C1 certified. May I confirm if you've received the C1 sticker in the package? If yes, kindly apply for the C1 label so you can fly your drone with no errors . I've shared a link with the instructions to apply for the label below for reference:
https://support.dji.com/help/con ... p;re=DK&lang=en

Thank you for your understanding and support!

DJI Gamora Posted at 7-18 02:18
Hi there,

We understand your frustration. We are truly sorry for the inconvenience you are experiencing. C1 class drones such as DJI Mini 4 Pro are allowed to use Intelligent Flight Battery Plus and you can purchase them from other regions and bring it to Europe in a compliant method. Unfortunately, due to violation laws or regulations Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in EU, DJI does not sell Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in EU.

Add me to the list of discouraged and disappointed customers!!! Last update blocked all Ali Express Batteries Plus! You don’t offer original batteries plus in Europe, on the other hand you release software that blocks people’s work around!
The flight-time of your offered batteries for Mini 4 Pro is a JOKE.
Really after that update I started considering other drones that at least don’t block aftermarket batteries with pitiful firmware.
DJI really should re-think their policy.

DJI Gamora Posted at 7-18 02:18
Hi there,

We understand your frustration. We are truly sorry for the inconvenience you are experiencing. C1 class drones such as DJI Mini 4 Pro are allowed to use Intelligent Flight Battery Plus and you can purchase them from other regions and bring it to Europe in a compliant method. Unfortunately, due to violation laws or regulations Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in EU, DJI does not sell Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in EU.

Add me to the list of discouraged and disappointed customers!!! Last update blocked all Ali Express Batteries Plus! You don’t offer original batteries plus in Europe, on the other hand you release software that blocks people’s work around!
The flight-time of your offered batteries for Mini 4 Pro is a JOKE.
Really after that update I started considering other drones that at least don’t block aftermarket batteries with pitiful firmware.
DJI really should re-think their policy.

The EU is the problem. They will not permit sale of any official accessory that will permit a C0 labelled drone to exceed its weight classification.

The ability to re-classify the M4P from C0 to C1 is merely a convenience, but does not change the fact that the "as-sold" M4P is C0.

If DJI were to sell the M4P in a second version, let's call it Mini 4 Pro High Gross Weight Edition as C1 in Europe, then software could be written that allows the larger battery only in this derivative, which would then permit the sale of the batteries in Europe.

Cine_Dude Posted at 11-23 01:04
The EU is the problem. They will not permit sale of any official accessory that will permit a C0 labelled drone to exceed its weight classification.

The ability to re-classify the M4P from C0 to C1 is merely a convenience, but does not change the fact that the "as-sold" M4P is C0.

Your statement is not right. The EU law 945 does not prevent from using accessories on C label drone.

Your a free to add any accessories until it respect the MTOM defined by the manufacturer.
However what is right is that if you add an accessories that is not listed in the manufacturer manual, the C-label is void, your are therefore locked in the A3 scenario. instead of A1 as it is made for C0 C1 drone.

Exactly what happened when you insert an original  DJI plus battery in a C0 drone. Just a message displayed.

It is more a scam that DJI is using to fool people hiding behind the 945, to obligates user to not buying third party accessories and part. Smart DJI marketing!

I said that the accessory would cause the aircraft to exceed its classification (in this case C0) so whether it is 3rd party or not, it can't legally be used, so to sell an official accessory for a product where it is known it would cause it to break the classification is surely illegal?

As you said, it makes the C0 void, and if it is void, it is no longer C0 even though it is marked, and it is here where the illegality exists?? It's not the technicality of what you can fly - it is the technicality of selling something official that will cause a product to breach its markings that is illegal?

Subtle I agree, but after reading UK law on the topic, there is the legality of operation which is entirely seperate from legality of markings.

I own the m4p. Bought it because i need a small but good drone for professional outdoor shootings. Changed it to c1 but the software denies the extended batteries from 3rd party companies. Previously they worked fine.
With the tiny batteries the drone is quite useless for my demands.
I am really upset now ...

DJI Gamora Posted at 2024-3-24 17:12
Hi, Frank. Thank you for reaching out. MKmini4 is correct, regretfully, we don't sell Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in Europe. You can purchase from other regions and bring it to Europe in a compliant method.

You may violate the laws or regulations if you use Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in the EU. We recommend that you always check and strictly abide by local laws and regulations before flying. Have a safe flight always!

It would t violate anything (even in the stupid UK where above 250g laws are ridiculous) if DJI weren't being silly about where the battery is allowed it just basically puts the drone into the same bracket as an air series …

Best way to get a bit more time from a mini 3 series is to use a mini 4 battery, it’s lighter too but for 4 owners the plus is the only way and I can’t see why it’s not available in the UK or EU as the drone doesn’t have 250g written on it, it’s on the battery
I'd never buy a shonky 3rd party battery, way too much at stake for the sake of a few more minutes time in the air.

Adam-T Posted at 1-25 04:57
It would t violate anything (even in the stupid UK where above 250g laws are ridiculous) if DJI weren't being silly about where the battery is allowed it just basically puts the drone into the same bracket as an air series …

Best way to get a bit more time from a mini 3 series is to use a mini 4 battery, it’s lighter too but for 4 owners the plus is the only way and I can’t see why it’s not available in the UK or EU as the drone doesn’t have 250g written on it, it’s on the battery

Hello there, thanks for sharing your concern with us regarding the usage of the Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in the EU. Please remember that using Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in the EU may violate the laws or regulations. We recommend always checking and strictly abiding by local laws and regulations before flying. We hope for your kind understanding. Thank you!

DJI Gamora Posted at 1-25 07:21
Hello there, thanks for sharing your concern with us regarding the usage of the Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in the EU. Please remember that using Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in the EU may violate the laws or regulations. We recommend always checking and strictly abiding by local laws and regulations before flying. We hope for your kind understanding. Thank you!

As I say, it won`t violate anything - it`ll just move the drone into the over 250g category so why not ship it here sold with the warning specified to the USA of the weight increase - you`ll make money and it`ll stop the sale of uncertified 3rd party batteries

DJI Gamora Posted at 1-25 07:21
Hello there, thanks for sharing your concern with us regarding the usage of the Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in the EU. Please remember that using Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in the EU may violate the laws or regulations. We recommend always checking and strictly abiding by local laws and regulations before flying. We hope for your kind understanding. Thank you!

Using Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in the EU will not violate anything if the drone is reclassified to C1. If you want the Intelligent Flight Battery Plus only to be used on C1 Mini 4's, that should be a simple task of firmware upgrade, so I really do not understand why DJI doesn't do this.

The only thing the Intelligent Flight Battery Plus changes is the weight, but a C1 category can be up to 900 grams, so this should be no problem.  Does DJI have a good explanation to why they cannot do this firmware change?

fgange57 Posted at 1-25 11:08
Using Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in the EU will not violate anything if the drone is reclassified to C1. If you want the Intelligent Flight Battery Plus only to be used on C1 Mini 4's, that should be a simple task of firmware upgrade, so I really do not understand why DJI doesn't do this.

The only thing the Intelligent Flight Battery Plus changes is the weight, but a C1 category can be up to 900 grams, so this should be no problem.  Does DJI have a good explanation to why they cannot do this firmware change?

We appreciate the feedback. DJI Mini 4 Pro will support the RID function after being C1 certified. Currently, the RID function cannot be obtained or removed by updating or downgrading the firmware.

I hope this information is helpful. We are always happy to help. Thank you and have a good day ahead!

DJI Gamora Posted at 1-25 12:24
We appreciate the feedback. DJI Mini 4 Pro will support the RID function after being C1 certified. Currently, the RID function cannot be obtained or removed by updating or downgrading the firmware.

I hope this information is helpful. We are always happy to help. Thank you and have a good day ahead!

This is no answer to why you cannot support the Plus battery on a Mini 4 that has been reclassified to C1.

fgange57 Posted at 1-25 12:29
This is no answer to why you cannot support the Plus battery on a Mini 4 that has been reclassified to C1.

The Mini 4 Pro supports the use of a C1 class identification label. According to EU RID regulations, drone manufacturers are not required to produce drones with the RID function. Instead, drone owners must comply with the regulations. DJI will implement this function in products that meet the regulations. We also recommend that you comply with the regulations for legal flying.

Firmware Upgrade von C0 auf C1 ganz offiziell mit allen Vorgaben durchgeführt. Höhenbegrenzung für Bergaufnahemen wurde dadurch aufgehoben. Die Verwendung eines als kompatibel gekauften Akkus (3850 mAh) wird aber mit Fehlercode 161000 4F verweigert. Die Firmware müsste doch auch die Gewichtsbeschränkung auf 900g anheben. Der stärkere Akku erhöht das Gesamtgewicht nur geringfügig..Hat hier DJI auf etwas „vergessen“?

DJI Gamora Posted at 1-25 13:32
The Mini 4 Pro supports the use of a C1 class identification label. According to EU RID regulations, drone manufacturers are not required to produce drones with the RID function. Instead, drone owners must comply with the regulations. DJI will implement this function in products that meet the regulations. We also recommend that you comply with the regulations for legal flying.

Once again, this seems to be an answer from a bot, because my question is not answered at all.

The issue is that when you upgrade the Mini 4 Pro to C1, this class allows drones up to 900g, and thus a larger battery should not cause any problems, but it is a problem because DJI are blocking Mini 4 Pro from using the larger Plus battery regardless if it is classified to C0 or C1. It should really be no problem for DJI to make change in the firmware to allow the C1 drones to use the Plus battery.  Why doesn't DJI do something about this?

fgange57 Posted at 1-26 07:24
Once again, this seems to be an answer from a bot, because my question is not answered at all.

The issue is that when you upgrade the Mini 4 Pro to C1, this class allows drones up to 900g, and thus a larger battery should not cause any problems, but it is a problem because DJI are blocking Mini 4 Pro from using the larger Plus battery regardless if it is classified to C0 or C1. It should really be no problem for DJI to make change in the firmware to allow the C1 drones to use the Plus battery.  Why doesn't DJI do something about this?

We appreciate your feedback and please rest assured, we will pass this along to our relevant team for evaluation. Please stay tune on our official website for updates.

DJI Gamora Posted at 2024-7-18 02:18
Hi there,

We understand your frustration. We are truly sorry for the inconvenience you are experiencing. C1 class drones such as DJI Mini 4 Pro are allowed to use Intelligent Flight Battery Plus and you can purchase them from other regions and bring it to Europe in a compliant method. Unfortunately, due to violation laws or regulations Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in EU, DJI does not sell Intelligent Flight Battery Plus in EU.

Good morning Gamora, ok that you do not sell bacteria and plus in Europe, but because you block the batteries not DJI, it does not seem fair to do it, the responsibility to use them is of the drone proportion, not DJI.

I agree, there are really a lot of us who don't understand why with a MINI 3 or 4 Pro already reclassified in C1, DJi would prevent takeoff in Europe.
This is not logical, a software update would really be needed in this sense. Thank you

Marcello57 Posted at 1-27 00:38
Good morning Gamora, ok that you do not sell bacteria and plus in Europe, but because you block the batteries not DJI, it does not seem fair to do it, the responsibility to use them is of the drone proportion, not DJI.

Hi there, we truly understand your frustration, and we appreciate your advice. We'll make sure to pass it on to the right team for review. We're always striving to make things better and better, so please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com. Thank you so much for your understanding and support.

LartistePeintre Posted at 1-27 03:24
I agree, there are really a lot of us who don't understand why with a MINI 3 or 4 Pro already reclassified in C1, DJi would prevent takeoff in Europe.
This is not logical, a software update would really be needed in this sense. Thank you

Hi there, we really appreciate your advice. We're sorry that changes might take a little time, but we truly value your feedback and we'll make sure to pass it on to the right team for review. We're always striving to make things better and better, so please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com. Thank you so much for your understanding and support!

DJI Gamora Posted at 1-27 03:34
Hi there, we really appreciate your advice. We're sorry that changes might take a little time, but we truly value your feedback and we'll make sure to pass it on to the right team for review. We're always striving to make things better and better, so please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com. Thank you so much for your understanding and support!

thank you,
I forgot to specify in my message just before,
I was talking about being able to be authorized to take off in Europe with a mini 4 pro in C1 with the plus batteries (3850 mAh).
Same thing for the authorization to sell in Europe the plus batteries (3850 mAh).
There are many of us asking for it.

LartistePeintre Posted at 1-27 04:16
thank you,
I forgot to specify in my message just before,
I was talking about being able to be authorized to take off in Europe with a mini 4 pro in C1 with the plus batteries (3850 mAh).

Hi there. Thank you for your response. You can use the Intelligent Flight Battery Plus if you obtain the C1 label for your drone. However, it's important to note that the Intelligent Flight Battery Plus would add approximately 40 grams to the Maximum Take-Off Mass (MTOM) of the DJI Mini 4 Pro, placing it into the draft C1 class identification standard, which would impose more restrictions on the use of the drone.  So that means you can use it in Europe. However, please fly your aircraft in accordance with local regulations. The DJI Intelligent Flight Battery Plus is not available in Europe due to laws and regulations and will not be sold in Europe. Thank you.

I read the extended plus battery is no longer supported in the EU and the DJI Mini 4 Pro won't fly after update .500
I'm not sure if this is correct, but maybe you guys can confirm (or deny)

Montfrooij Posted at 2-12 03:44
I read the extended plus battery is no longer supported in the EU and the DJI Mini 4 Pro won't fly after update .500
I'm not sure if this is correct, but maybe you guys can confirm (or deny)

It still fly with a higher capacity battery so long as it is an official DJI Battery , third party battery's are blocked from take off .

Uptowndisco Posted at 2-16 05:56
It still fly with a higher capacity battery so long as it is an official DJI Battery , third party battery's are blocked from take off .

But you are no longer in the EU

That would be crazy for some people but not for me since I live in the US. I am pretty sure the reason behind that is because the plus battery makes the drone weigh more than 249 grams. Which is crazy because they sell drones like the DJI Air 3, Air 3s, Mavic 3 classic, and Mavic 3 pro and those drones weigh more than 250 grams. But if you live in eroupe, maybe you can go here to the US and buy the plus batteries here and go to Eroupe. That is legal and there is nothing illegal with it.

LartistePeintre Posted at 1-27 03:24
I agree, there are really a lot of us who don't understand why with a MINI 3 or 4 Pro already reclassified in C1, DJi would prevent takeoff in Europe.
This is not logical, a software update would really be needed in this sense. Thank you

Plus batteries are legal in eroupe but you will need additonal liscensing.

Steven Z Posted at 3-2 20:35
Plus batteries are legal in eroupe but you will need additonal liscensing.

Just import them and print on them a sub250g

Where can Europe (UK) buy the GENUINE Mini 4 Pro Plus batteries??