What about the full throttle problem?
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It's been over a month since the firmware update with drone behavior issues in conjunction with RC MC 3 was released. The drone becomes uncontrollable, the emergency braking button does not work, which creates a huge threat to people and animals around. DJI continues to blame users for this, write standard responses and constantly refer to the fact that there is not enough lighting, the floor is not right, etc. Why then release firmware with such problems? For some reason, the very first versions did not have such problems. DJI, we demand an adequate response and the release of fixes for your errors!

Прошло более месяца с выпуска прошивки с проблемами поведения дрона в связке с RC MC 3. Дрон становится неуправляемым, не работает кнопка экстренного торможения, что создает огромную угрозу людям и животным вокруг. DJI продолжают винить в этом пользователей, писать стандартные ответы и постоянно ссылаются на то, что недостаточно освещения, пол не такой, тд. Зачем тогда выпускать прошивку, в которой такие проблемы? На самых первых версиях таких проблем почему-то не было. DJI, мы требуем адекватного ответа и выпуск исправлений ваших ошибок!

自從韌體發布以來一個多月過去了,無人機與RC MC 3 結合的行為出現問題。 。大疆繼續為此指責用戶,寫出標準答案並不斷提及照明不夠、地板不對等事實。為什麼要發布存在此類問題的韌體呢?由於某種原因,在第一個版本中沒有這樣的問題。,我們要求對您的錯誤做出充分的回應並發布修復程序!
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Not a widely reported issue,   perhaps you should return yours if you have these faults.
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DAFlys Posted at 12-25 02:54
Not a widely reported issue,   perhaps you should return yours if you have these faults.

Unfortunately, your opinion cannot be objective, because you cooperate with DJI. It is enough to look through this forum and see the problem.
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With Love Posted at 12-25 03:03
Unfortunately, your opinion cannot be objective, because you cooperate with DJI. It is enough to look through this forum and see the problem.

Im on this forum everyday and Ive not seen lots of reports of it.   I would open a case with DJI,  supply them the logs etc and they will try and help you.  
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DAFlys Posted at 12-25 03:06
Im on this forum everyday and Ive not seen lots of reports of it.   I would open a case with DJI,  supply them the logs etc and they will try and help you.

Dear friend, this is a massive problem, if you don't want to see it, it doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.Unfortunately, DJI couldn't help even after contacting the support line. Moreover, Stefan and Tony have already confirmed the problem. Please do not stop us from demanding an adequate response and communication from the manufacturer.
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With Love Posted at 12-25 03:08
Dear friend, this is a massive problem, if you don't want to see it, it doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.Unfortunately, DJI couldn't help even after contacting the support line. Moreover, Stefan and Tony have already confirmed the problem. Please do not stop us from demanding an adequate response and communication from the manufacturer.

Could you point me to the other threads about this issue from other people?   I was just about to pull the trigger on a Neo and I will only be flying it full manual so this could be an issue.  
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DAFlys Posted at 12-25 03:10
Could you point me to the other threads about this issue from other people?   I was just about to pull the trigger on a Neo and I will only be flying it full manual so this could be an issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkDs6yXH7Ew

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... D933%26typeid%3D933

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... D933%26typeid%3D933

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... D933%26typeid%3D933

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... D933%26typeid%3D933

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... D933%26typeid%3D933

And that's just part of it! We've already figured out what the problem is, this drone is dangerous to use in conjunction with the RC MC 3. If you fly in manual mode, of course this problem won't happen. But people buy this drone last of all for manual mode.

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With Love Posted at 12-25 03:19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkDs6yXH7Ew

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=328028&extra=page%3D1%26filter%3Dtypeid%26typeid%3D933%26typeid%3D933

These seem to be other issues and not related to full throttle issue you mention in your title.   
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DAFlys Posted at 12-25 03:24
These seem to be other issues and not related to full throttle issue you mention in your title.

Study the problem carefully, everything is connected. The drone accelerates at full speed and loses control. This only happens when using RC MC 3. We have already written that this behavior is illogical, because even the emergency breaking button does not work. Try to fly indoors yourself not in manual mode and using MC 3
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With Love Posted at 12-25 03:28
Study the problem carefully, everything is connected. The drone accelerates at full speed and loses control. This only happens when using RC MC 3. We have already written that this behavior is illogical, because even the emergency breaking button does not work. Try to fly indoors yourself not in manual mode and using MC 3

I sold my MC3 as I hate it with a passion,   I much prefer flying with the FPV 3 controller.
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DAFlys Posted at 12-25 03:30
I sold my MC3 as I hate it with a passion,   I much prefer flying with the FPV 3 controller.

For many beginners, this is the first experience that is similar to FPV flights. And MC helps them with this very well. DJI just needs to calibrate the behavior of the controller and the drone in case of insufficient lighting, for example, as it happens when you launch a drone without controllers, it just goes to land in insufficient lighting - this is much better than it just speeds up and turns into a dangerous gadget.
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DAFlys Posted at 12-25 03:06
Im on this forum everyday and Ive not seen lots of reports of it.   I would open a case with DJI,  supply them the logs etc and they will try and help you.

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... D933%26typeid%3D933

Here one more wonderful example
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With Love Posted at 12-25 04:28
https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=318439&extra=page%3D2%26filter%3Dtypeid%26typeid%3D933%26typeid%3D933

Here one more wonderful example

He flew it into a wall?
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DAFlys Posted at 12-25 04:34
He flew it into a wall?

No, it happens automatically, the drone accelerates and stops responding to any actions.
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Hello With Love. Thank you for reaching out to us. We sincerely apologize, but DJI currently does not sell any products in this area and cannot provide service for any after-sales issues. Thank you for your understanding and support.
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DAFlys Posted at 12-25 03:10
Could you point me to the other threads about this issue from other people?   I was just about to pull the trigger on a Neo and I will only be flying it full manual so this could be an issue.

Seems to be only an issue in low light and or highly reflective or no texture surface  conditions below the functional threshold of  either the downward visual and/or IR sensor.  DJI Stephen (admin) replied to the issue in another thread noting it was the sensors.  Hardware limits that we just need to accept.

Had the autonomous acceleration, no input response issue twice while flying indoors in N mode using once the MC3 and the other time the FPV RC3.   Both times apparently flew into a too dark an area.  I get usually zero satellites indoors and fly without issue unless into a dark area.

Manual mode zero issues.  Except for my poor manual stick skills in tight environments.

Guessing if DJI had the option of shutting off the stabilization in N or S modes it would eliminate the problem.  Then people would be whiny about the lack of stabilization.  Just need to learn to fly.
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DJI Natalia Posted at 12-26 03:14
Hello With Love. Thank you for reaching out to us. We sincerely apologize, but DJI currently does not sell any products in this area and cannot provide service for any after-sales issues. Thank you for your understanding and support.

How two-faced the Chinese are!
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DAFlys Posted at 12-25 02:54
Not a widely reported issue,   perhaps you should return yours if you have these faults.

How many DJI drones have you been given?
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NoDJI Posted at 12-26 22:34
How many DJI drones have you been given?

None,    I just fly a lot of them and have at least one of the highest flight distances on the forum.
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NoDJI Posted at 12-26 22:34
How two-faced the Chinese are!

We are sorry to inform you that DJI has temporarily suspended all business activities in Russia and Ukraine from 00:00 on April 27, 2022 (Beijing time). Here is the information for your reference: https://www.dji.com/newsroom/new ... -compliance-efforts

Thanks for your understanding.
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With Love Posted at 12-25 03:35
For many beginners, this is the first experience that is similar to FPV flights. And MC helps them with this very well. DJI just needs to calibrate the behavior of the controller and the drone in case of insufficient lighting, for example, as it happens when you launch a drone without controllers, it just goes to land in insufficient lighting - this is much better than it just speeds up and turns into a dangerous gadget.

Hi all,

before my rant im posting links to 3 home videos. please watch and take away what you wish.

various examples of this behaviour. Maybe lessons to be learned who knows? Back story. first flights for me and my daughter having never used this package or drone before.

I too have the ghosting issue on my goggles but i dont complain, we also had the full throttle issue several times on the very first time out using this package. My only motivation to post is because of DAFlys comments solely.

My daughter manged to press the emergency stop several times to stop the drone but were several occasions when she did the drone did not respond and flew into the air fryer, wall ,front door etc. Very entertaining stuff. Dji have built a solid drone. Just keeps flying very happy with the product regardless of some issues. i dont think this would be the case if it had broken on first impact. Enjoy the videos

Blips of full speed https://youtu.be/4ziYgP7ziwo

Full speed nearly into front door https://youtu.be/DTgawgRkOTI

Out Of Control Crash https://youtu.be/Ws_5yb9zVlM

I dont want to attack anyone personally serves no purpose. Education is always best i believe. Try using the hardware in question , build experience then share and comment with facts and proof.

But i will say that comments and opinions from people who dont use the same exact hardware, and rubishing Dji hardware because they are now experienced pilots and such hardware beneath them are baseless and are not exprience earned like others using the hardware in question.

DAFlys as an experienced flyer and member of this forum you should know better.

Would you agree that this package comes with a begineer mode tutorial and remote controller tutorial with hardware for both to suit the intended begineer mode experience? the answer of course is yes to both, thats not my opinion thats fact. Baked into the package itself via software and hardware.

I'm trying to get you to understand just because you dont use the hardware doesnt mean there isn't a potential issue or not with the product.

I love the fact you stated that you have the highest flight distance on the forum , classic

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DAFlys Posted at 12-27 00:19
None,    I just fly a lot of them and have at least one of the highest flight distances on the forum.

I've just realised who you are, the youtube guy , love the videos, keep up the good work
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I've just read the above posts - is the MC3 really so problematic?
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Th3Sm1le4 Posted at 1-5 11:02
I've just read the above posts - is the MC3 really so problematic?

If the "full throttle problem" was due to the Neo going into the crash mode due to loss  of IR, visual downward sensor and/or GPS lock. No.


Neo limitations.  Adm DJI Stephen in his post on another thread noted that behavior was due to sensor limitations.  I believe his comment.  I fly the Neo with zero sats at times and haven't experienced the "full throttle" no response to controller event.  Just when flying into dark areas.  Multiple Ytube videos where the presenters have covered the sensors resulting in the Neo basically flying uncontrollably.


Flew the Avata2 ~10 hours using the MC3 before acquiring the FPV RC3 without any issues.  Neo, no issues outdoors using the MC3.  A couple incidents of sudden "full throttle" acceleration into the first thing it could hit indoors when flying into a dark area.
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JMHO, if you have not purchased the MC3, but are considering FPV.  Spend the extra $s for the overpriced FPV RC3.  You will be able to fly N, S, or M modes.  The rotary dial allows you to change gimbal pitch while flying.  If you decide to transition into M mode the controller and Neo will make life much easier than most other systems.  Simple to set whatever rates/gains you like. You can engage the ATTI to prevent untended loops, rolls, auger into the ground when transitioning to M mode. Fast bailout from M mode to N or S mode by flicking the rocker mode switch or tap the Brake/Pause switch.  DJI stabilization allows for relatively easy N and S modes. They are similar to everyone else more or less calls Angle mode, but with stabilization.
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Anybody watch my videos? any dark spots in there? no, but random full throttle applied anyway with no response from the controller? still no comments from DJI
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4rank n Beans Posted at 1-9 03:27
Anybody watch my videos? any dark spots in there? no, but random full throttle applied anyway with no response from the controller? still no comments from DJI

The same incident happened with me also. Thanks to the wall, my neo got saved by it.
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Leave a complaint here. They are happy with the new drone, but they don't want to fix the Neo

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... ;extra=&page=18
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Since some people here think the problem doesn't exist. I have the same problem with the RC 3 for months, in certain lighting conditions, not the darkest, the Neo can no longer be controlled. And I have already commented on this in various posts.
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