OK final got it, flew it, first impressions!
More solid, flies well with controller, good camera, stable video, direction track works well even side on, quick startup by unfolding.
Now the bad points hard to hand launch and catch without catching fingers, side mode buttons awkward to use or keep accidently pressing when holding to avoid props, only 10-15 metres distance in manual without signal problems, failed to hand land in low light then does not turn off when inverting after grabbing prop guards causing painful fingers, tangles itself further in trees when caught in them , RTH several metres out, very slow against any wind when on RTH

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