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The Saint Posted at 9-9 16:43
i never said there were no near misses between drone and aircraft, fake or exaggerated or real. i said there were no near misses between drone and aircraft at night that were caused because the drone was flying without a green flashing strobe light. i am all for regulations to prevent near misses but mandating a flashing green strobe light at all times during the night is not one of them. what i am trying to prevent is drones having 5000 rules and regulations they must follow (like cars) just to fly/drive. this will drive up the drone cost, increase the fines, lengthen the launch process, increase and encourage even more regulations, and ultimately impact casual recreational flyers who just want to fly around in their backyard. you already see it, you can't even lift off with a toy drone at 25 feet in your backyard under controlled airspace. most fpv flyers don't need more rules, they need less. but in the drone world you won't have bicycles and skateboards, and e-bikes and motorcycles along with cars; everything is a 747 unless it's a toy. fill out and submit a checklist/flight plan, get an inspection, get on the radio....
if you allow me fly at 4000 feet like the illegal drone flights in your examples, i would mount a strobe; not a problem. until then, legal drone flyers who obey the rules are not a problem and i simply disagree with placing a burden on us because the drone has "capabilities." but of course, every near miss with a drone is a calamity of epidemic proportions; never do you hear that drone came close to us and a few more feet and we would have shredded someone's poor $1000 mini 3 pro. it's always sucked into the engine fright.
i never said there were no near misses between drone and aircraft, fake or exaggerated or real.
The list does not only contain misses.
that were caused because the drone was flying without a green flashing strobe light
An incident is never caused by a light. It is caused by a drone flying into another aircraft, or an aircraft flying into a drone. A light may or may not help prevent that.
i am all for regulations to prevent near misses but mandating a flashing green strobe light at all times during the night is not one of them
Why? Of all the possible regulations that are silly - having aircraft blink in the sky doesn't feel like one of them.
what i am trying to prevent is drones having 5000 rules and regulations they must follow (like cars) just to fly/drive
This requires drones to not cause problems for others. Having them be identifiable in air (just to tie it to this argument) is an effort to, among other things, prevent just that.
this will drive up the drone cost, increase the fines, lengthen the launch process, increase and encourage even more regulations, and ultimately impact casual recreational flyers who just want to fly around in their backyard.
I think we can agree that regulation for the sake of regulation is rarely a good thing.
you already see it, you can't even lift off with a toy drone at 25 feet in your backyard under controlled airspace
Where it is (your yard or not) is indeed not relevant for airspaces. I too find this kind of silly when dealing with very low altitudes.
if you allow me fly at 4000 feet like the illegal drone flights in your examples, i would mount a strobe
It's not about what you're allowed to do - it's about what you can do. I'm not allowed to go above 120m, but I can. The strobes, in those situations, can absolutely make a difference.
i simply disagree with placing a burden on us because the drone has "capabilities."
I get what you're saying, but I think it's perhaps slightly tunnel-visioned or egocentric to the recreational drone pilot community. We all want our drone flying to be as trouble-free as possible, but we can't have that unless we also comply with basic safety requirements that allow our hobby or profession to co-exist with others. Just like we can't have deregulated roads, for obvious reasons.
What I'm really reading here (and do correct me if I interpret you correctly) is that it's perhaps not so much about the strobes as it is about a worry that the regulations will become too complex to follow.
If so, I agree and think this is an unfortunate result of government. An often unintended side-effect is that with more complex regulation, users instead remain ignorant (or just willfully ignore them) because following the regulations feels unreasonable or too difficult.
A prime example from where I live is that there are specific licenses and permits needed to fly beyond visual range. These are time-limited when you apply for them, and can easily cost upwards of $2000.
This puts it out of range for most consumers / hobbyists entirely. I'd wager that a lot of of people ignore that regulation entirely. Would we not have been better off with requiring certain drone capabilities and more education from those pilots, than them just ignoring it entirely? I guess I'm rambling a bit here, but it felt sort of on topic.
but of course, every near miss with a drone is a calamity of epidemic proportions
I guess, but keep in mind that it doesn't take a whole lot to mess with an aircraft engine (especially not a jet engine). Birdstrikes are a prime example of that. |
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