Focus issue: test shots with the latest firmware v01.01.05.40

hallmark007 · 2022-10-27

StevoB Posted at 10-27 09:58
From 50 meters it is highly usable, without a competitor (the better pieces). The landscapes are great... I have no more words. Buy it and then write and share your thoughts. No irony. I don't expect output from it, like from a DSLR crop, full frame, razor sharp (not even physically possible), but the entire depth of field is SIGNIFICANTLY moved far, the meaning of the word action from 30cm to infinity is completely lost here and compared to its predecessors, it is a huge step backwards. Either they couldn't get the lens assembly to match the sensor size and the huge angle of view, or the lenses were just out of tune.....it's up to the engineers to add those beneficial +2 diopters somewhere....

Again you failed miserably to comment in any constructive way about above videos. My guess is you don’t own or use other dji small cameras. You are just convinced by ridiculous tests your camera is not capable, but it is and its no better or worse than go pro and is a lot better than A1. Sell it and be done I have been using dji cameras for over 7 years and every single one of them improved over their life time “fact”

hallmark007 · 2022-10-27

MarcoR Posted at 10-27 09:46
I absolutely agree on the issue of different FOV for the same number of sensor Mpixels, but at that point I personally would have preferred a real uncropped Wide, or perhaps an Ultra-Wide with more Mpixels on the sensor.
Of course, not for $359!
However on different distances so as to maintain proportion the difference is there anyway.

Its hard to know if you wanted a small camera or an action camera.

10-Bit · 2022-10-27

MarcoR Posted at 10-27 08:33
The videos are downloadable so they are comparisons that you can fre as well, I mean you can verify them, they are not things that I make up or mystify.
Now DJI should tell us why anyone would spend $359 for their OA3 when with a GoPro HERO 6 that can be found used around $150 and even less, you can get better results in many contexts.
Only this I ask.

Sorry to hear that your replacement OA3 was no better than your original device.  At this point after firmware designed to correct this - and now replacements provided by DJI for verified user focus issues - the ball is back in the hands of DJI.

DJI has exhausted the:
1. Firmware will fix this issue
2. Send in and we will fix this issue
3. Send in and we will send out a replacement device that fixes this issue

Not sure why any normal person can dispute that the OA3 has soft focus after the firmware fix - when DJI confirms some cameras continue to have this.  All the returns have been pre-verified by DJI to have this issue.  So what has been posted here and on YT is reality.  Close range tests and analysis are exactly what DJI requires - not edited online YT videos - that are not original OOC DJI files.  No need to BS around.  It is what it is.  Soft focus still remains to be corrected for those users that are concerned with that.  That is factual as it has been verified by DJI.

For those that are not concerned with close range - fine.  No need to dispute what DJI confirms is an issue for some.  Just let @MarcoR and others carry on without insults or distractions - as these tests are necessary and all the negative YT publicly is necessary - to have DJI ultimately correct blurry focus.

“After testing and analysis, our engineers found that the Focus Blurry in Close Range is caused by a larger internal parameter that some cameras have. This issue can be optimized through firmware updates. We don't have the information yet on when will the next firmware update will come out but for any updates, please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com.

In the meantime, you may set the parameters below to isolate the issue:

1) ISO: 100-200;
2) EV: 0; Make sure that the ambient brightness is bright enough;
3) FOV: Wide
4) Resolution/Frame Rate: 16:9 & Steady Disabled & 4K25 or 4K30;
5) Fixed Capturing: Make sure that the camera and outer box remain fixed during capturing.”

Astroita87 · 2022-10-27

hallmark007 Posted at 10-27 09:22
Here you go watch this in high res on YT or on your TV its pretty good.

WOW this is insane! i don't know if this guy shoted this video in d-cine and edited it in post or just normal color profile but for me this is just incredible performance by the camera.

I was also worried if gave it back to amazon and wait , because i did the photo test and yes was not so sharp but in my eyes was acceptable, i went out and shot some videos and the quality is amazing, i keep it and i'm sure dji will improve it more and more with the new coming updates!

MarcoR · 2022-10-27

hallmark007 Posted at 10-27 10:15
Again you failed miserably to comment in any constructive way about above videos. My guess is you don’t own or use other dji small cameras. You are just convinced by ridiculous tests your camera is not capable, but it is and its no better or worse than go pro and is a lot better than A1. Sell it and be done I have been using dji cameras for over 7 years and every single one of them improved over their life time “fact”

Yours, I want all yours cam!
If they have been certified by the omniscient they are definitely the best!

10-Bit · 2022-10-27

MarcoR Posted at 10-27 14:26
Yours, I want all yours cam!
If they have been certified by the omniscient they are definitely the best!

Yes. The lonely rude troll always knows best.

Bahahahaha!

hallmark007 · 2022-10-27

MarcoR Posted at 10-27 14:26
Yours, I want all yours cam!
If they have been certified by the omniscient they are definitely the best!

I think anyone using your technique for testing would equally be able to show the go pro 11 with similar if not the same problems.
You have an action camera here try testing for that .

MarcoR · 2022-10-27

hallmark007 Posted at 10-27 14:57
I think anyone using your technique for testing would equally be able to show the go pro 11 with similar if not the same problems.
You have an action camera here try testing for that .

Never thought that for distance use the OA3 is not great, I have written that before.
For anything from 30cm to 100 better to use something else at the moment, also a glorious YI-4K+.
Tomorrow I will do tests in Ultra-Wide with OA3 and HERO6, shooting subjects at distances ranging from 30 cm to one meter, so that the two cams will collimate the actual pixels captured by the sensor, I mean maintaining the ratio of the subject.
But I am convinced that the omniscient will fail these as well.
I don't know, I have this feeling...

hallmark007 · 2022-10-27

MarcoR Posted at 10-27 15:06
Never thought that for distance use the OA3 is not great, I have written that before.
For anything from 30cm to 100 better to use something else at the moment.
Tomorrow I will do tests in Ultra-Wide with OA3 and HERO6, shooting subjects at distances ranging from 30 cm to one meter, so that the two cams will collimate the actual pixels captured by the sensor, I mean maintaining the ratio of the subject.

Its not a fail these cameras are all very similar, but you’re testing them for something they’re not. Yes it would be great to shoot close with wider Aperture for shallow DOF, but its never going to happen. I would never contemplate to get great results from this camera close in if I have a phone in my pocket. But there are loads of other things this camera can shoot and many are shooting it how it should.
Look at video below and you’ll see just how bad these cameras are in certain situations they simply cannot handle. Start at 2.55.

MarcoR · 2022-10-27

hallmark007 Posted at 10-27 15:14
Its not a fail these cameras are all very similar, but you’re testing them for something they’re not. Yes it would be great to shoot close with wider Aperture for shallow DOF, but its never going to happen. I would never contemplate to get great results from this camera close in if I have a phone in my pocket. But there are loads of other things this camera can shoot and many are shooting it how it should.
Look at video below and you’ll see just how bad these cameras are in certain situations they simply cannot handle. Start at 2.55.

I watched it all, it's inopinable that in his test the OA3 and the GoPro have a very similar result, certainly using an action camera for taking pictures would be a bit like rallying with a go-kart, I don't argue with that.
Normally they are used for taking action videos, and in that case from the comparison between the two cams the GoPro 11 comes out the winner for close subjects, there are many videos on Youtube that show that.
And there are also ones that show the OA2 winning in the close focus at the same FOV, which is always 155°.
We are here to understand if there can be room for improvement, although I repeat that I am satisfied with it for my personal use (aerial shooting), and I will be even more so if they fix some horizon balance problem and maybe introduce 10-bit and gyro data.
And if I have to take videos to nearby subjects rather I use the HERO 6 or the smartphone.
An action cam can never satisfy me as my Panasonic AG-CX350, that's obvious, but the latter I certainly cannot put in my pocket, as I certainly cannot install it on an FPV racer.
Did DJI start replacing OA3 because someone complains unnecessarily, or because really some units have focus problems?
Would DJI if it had not encountered such a problem on my OA3 have taken the liberty to replace it in 4 hours from receiving the defective product to shipping another new one, and also giving me a nice DJI beanie and 70€ of spendable coupons on its store apologizing for the inconvenience?
But the other question I have is: dear hallmark007, it is of course correct that you can express your opinion, but can you explain us why you have registrated a myriad of DJI products, including Osmo Action and Action 2, but I don't see an OA3 among them?

It would be a bit like me starting to express my opinions about Ireland among people who have been there or live there, without ever having been there!

Zarg · 2022-10-27

Dear forum users. I ask you not to respond to the posts of the spammer hallmark007 at all. He can only judge other people. Looks like he has real vision problems, since this fool really does not see problems.

Zarg · 2022-10-27

hallmark007 Posted at 10-27 15:14
Its not a fail these cameras are all very similar, but you’re testing them for something they’re not. Yes it would be great to shoot close with wider Aperture for shallow DOF, but its never going to happen. I would never contemplate to get great results from this camera close in if I have a phone in my pocket. But there are loads of other things this camera can shoot and many are shooting it how it should.
Look at video below and you’ll see just how bad these cameras are in certain situations they simply cannot handle. Start at 2.55.

Spammer, there are no videos of your own? Can you just post links to other people's vids?

Zarg · 2022-10-27

If anyone wants to disassemble the camera, then it is disassembled from the side of the display. Here is a photo from the microscope. I am close to doing this, since the manufacturer itself is only delaying time and does not offer any solutions. I also ordered the HOYA CLOSE UP + 2 37mm lens - it just sits tightly on the lens.

Zarg · 2022-10-27

MarcoR · 2022-10-27

Zarg Posted at 10-27 22:52
If anyone wants to disassemble the camera, then it is disassembled from the side of the display. Here is a photo from the microscope. I am close to doing this, since the manufacturer itself is only delaying time and does not offer any solutions. I also ordered the HOYA CLOSE UP + 2 37mm lens - it just sits tightly on the lens.
[view_image]

I was sure that some daredevil would do it sooner or later, I follow with interest!

StevoB · 2022-10-27

Maybe I'll also like to join, I like to tinker

hallmark007 · 2022-10-27

MarcoR Posted at 10-27 22:10
I watched it all, it's inopinable that in his test the OA3 and the GoPro have a very similar result, certainly using an action camera for taking pictures would be a bit like rallying with a go-kart, I don't argue with that.
Normally they are used for taking action videos, and in that case from the comparison between the two cams the GoPro 11 comes out the winner for close subjects, there are many videos on Youtube that show that.
And there are also ones that show the OA2 winning in the close focus at the same FOV, which is always 155°.

I do own an A3 as well, but for whatever reason it doesn’t show under my avatar. Its the second time now I’ve been accused of this but I can assure you I do. I also own other dji drones that don’t register here.
I had to take this photo of proof yesterday for another doubting Thomas yesterday.

StevoB · 2022-10-27

Is it 1 in Ireland like in the US?

10-Bit · 2022-10-27

Zarg Posted at 10-27 22:18
Spammer, there are no videos of your own? Can you just post links to other people's vids?

Yep. The idiot spammer troll is afraid to post any OOC video from his beloved OA3. Because no doubt it is completely out of focus since he is blind as a bat. Yet he thinks it is reasonable to post his BS nonsense blah blah blah over and over and over.

He is simply a lonely weak keyboard warrior loser. Just wanting to gain attention and distract from normal posts. The comments he makes are asinine. Only a buffoon would spew. Many of his comments are baseless and false - just pure speculation and BS.

Bahahahahaha!

hallmark007 · 2022-10-27

MarcoR Posted at 10-27 22:10
I watched it all, it's inopinable that in his test the OA3 and the GoPro have a very similar result, certainly using an action camera for taking pictures would be a bit like rallying with a go-kart, I don't argue with that.
Normally they are used for taking action videos, and in that case from the comparison between the two cams the GoPro 11 comes out the winner for close subjects, there are many videos on Youtube that show that.
And there are also ones that show the OA2 winning in the close focus at the same FOV, which is always 155°.

The video just proves that testing shows that all of these cameras can be shown to have useless tendencies if you choose to test them outside their comfort zone. None of them were any good so doesn’t really matter which one was best.

I have never bought a dji Camera including Osmo zenmuse 5, Osmo zenmuse 3, osmo 1&2 action 1,2, that haven’t improved throughout the time I owned them and many drone cameras the same. I think dji should not have decided to advertise focus at 30cm, but many camera companies do this to try gain small advantages , car companies do exactly the same with advertising X amount of KPG which you can never achieve in normal driving.
The replacement program is basically a bot centre, you arrange a return and you receive bot answers from collection until you receive replacement. Don’t be fooled into thinking they take your camera and run a full diagnostics on they don’t they accept what you say and act according to warranty then ship yours back to china who will diagnose refurb and on it goes. The fact you believe you got all this attention shows their return and replace program works.
Incidentally its exactly the same with apple products under warranty.

I expect the go pro 11 to work better than A3 its so much more expensive but go pro has also been plagued with problems for almost all their cameras and im sure 11 will be no different, in fact dji stopped using go pros on their drones because of all the problems.

I don’t know if 10 bit will come, but I do know normally when they say something they usually make it happen and they did for mini 3 so no reason why not. Gyro data it will come if the camera has already been set up for it.
I think if people start using A3 as it was intended making videos they will soon realise it has great potential un filled because they’re spending their time trying to find fault on a camera like other cameras that will also have faults if you try to find them.

hallmark007 · 2022-10-28

Zarg Posted at 10-27 22:18
Spammer, there are no videos of your own? Can you just post links to other people's vids?

Are all Russians bully’s spreading ridiculous propaganda , now who comes to mind here Mr Putrid, so quit acting like a bully spreading lies about people, the rest of the world will always stand up to bullies like you.

MarcoR · 2022-10-28

hallmark007 Posted at 10-27 23:56
The video just proves that testing shows that all of these cameras can be shown to have useless tendencies if you choose to test them outside their comfort zone. None of them were any good so doesn’t really matter which one was best.

I have never bought a dji Camera including Osmo zenmuse 5, Osmo zenmuse 3, osmo 1&2 action 1,2, that haven’t improved throughout the time I owned them and many drone cameras the same. I think dji should not have decided to advertise focus at 30cm, but many camera companies do this to try gain small advantages , car companies do exactly the same with advertising X amount of KPG which you can never achieve in normal driving.

Let's see now if I can get some doubts out of you.
I recorded with the OA3 in Ultra-Wide, so full sensor, and with the HERO 6 in Wide, again full sensor, 4:3 30 fps blah blah blah.
That way the sensor is working on about the same pixel array, more or less, test run in hand, that's how we use these action cams after all.
Obviously with the OA3 I was much closer to get the same occupancy on the sensor area, always more than 30 cm, and with the HERO 6 obviously further away to respect the proportion of the sheet of paper to the full sensor area.
As you will then be able to see in the original frames the proportions of the paper sheet to the sensor area are almost the same.
The crops I put here show only the paper sheet.
Zoom in and reevaluate that.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/ ... view?usp=share_link

MarcoR · 2022-10-28

I am just now reading that DJI has reopened my case, will pick up the cam again and do extensive testing.
Perhaps they did not understand that this is not a problem of my OA3, but perhaps with all of them if testing from 30 to 100 cm.
The never-ending story.
Maybe as a replacement sending me an Avata, I would be happier, so I am abandoning this topic!

tpetran · 2022-10-28

GoPro is sharper, no doubt.

This is not a complete apples to apples comparison as other have previously stated here (I won't go into details again and again) but yeah all things aside this new 380€ camera should in any shape or form beat the old GoPro, at least that's what majority of disgruntled people here is saying. I can respect that but I still think this "issue" is blown up because of these tests that just excarbate A3 shortcomings (mainly because of lens-sensor physics but that's for another topic, more scientific one that a lot of people aren't capable to unterstand - or won't wilingly).

Main question is - can you still return the camera? At least I will be truly happy for you and it would be a win-win situation. You would get your money back and we can finally stop with these "tests".

Oh yeah, one more thing. Do you have a feeling that this unit is the same as the one you sent back? I suspect every camera is the same, that's what I would really like to find out.

10-Bit · 2022-10-28

MarcoR Posted at 10-28 01:06
I am just now reading that DJI has reopened my case, will pick up the cam again and do extensive testing.
Perhaps they did not understand that this is not a problem with my OA3, but perhaps with all of them if testing from 30 to 100 cm.
The never-ending story.

The lonely weak buffoon troll will surely dispute your findings again - as he fails miserably to produce any actual video proof himself that his OA3 can focus properly.

But an Avata does seem to be reasonable compensation for all your efforts confirming this “soft focus” issue still exists. As noted your findings and many others from Day 1 have pushed DJI to do something. Where the rude idiot troll has done absolutely nothing but spew BS and distract from every thread he posts in. He is a useless twit.

Urbsi · 2022-10-28

tpetran Posted at 10-28 01:21
GoPro is sharper, no doubt.

This is not a complete apples to apples comparison as other have previously stated here (I won't go into details again and again) but yeah all things aside this new 380€ camera should in any shape or form beat the old GoPro, at least that's what majority of disgruntled people here is saying. I can respect that but I still think this "issue" is blown up because of these tests that just excarbate A3 shortcomings (mainly because of lens-sensor physics but that's for another topic, more scientific one that a lot of people aren't capable to unterstand - or won't wilingly).

I sent mine back and will get a new (?) one with another serial number (DJI already told me the new number..)

hallmark007 · 2022-10-28

10-Bit Posted at 10-28 01:25
The lonely weak buffoon troll will surely dispute your findings again - as he fails miserably to produce any actual video proof himself that his OA3 can focus properly.

But an Avata does seem to be reasonable compensation for all your efforts confirming this “soft focus” issue still exists. As noted your findings and many others from Day 1 have pushed DJI to do something. Where the rude idiot troll has done absolutely nothing but spew BS and distract from every thread he posts in. He is a useless twit.

I don’t need to, just look above your post, but you will have trouble figuring any of this out. You don’t own one no skin in the game. You’re just here to create hysteria while others debate. Once you reduce yourself to personally insulting others without provocation you’ve already lost.

tpetran · 2022-10-28

I kind of got lost in all the different issues reported, can we get a summary?

1. Are all cameras faulty or not?
2. Faulty means close focus is bad or is the whole picture not in focus? And again do we have variations of these problems amongst different units?
3. Did anyone that got a replacement compare the 2 units - old one vs. new one?

Here is an example from my camera. Camera is 30-35cm from the tree. It is clearly not in focus but what do you people think - are the leaves behind in focus or not? I would like to get a feeling what is considered okay and what isn't.

https://ibb.co/mSCQqrv

hallmark007 · 2022-10-28

MarcoR Posted at 10-28 00:38
Let's see now if I can get some doubts out of you.
I recorded with the OA3 in Ultra-Wide, so full sensor, and with the HERO 6 in Wide, again full sensor, 4:3 30 fps blah blah blah.
That way the sensor is working on about the same pixel array, more or less, test run in hand, that's how we use these action cams after all.

You know I never argued there wasn’t some failings in the camera, but I clearly proved there are failings in all action cameras when they are forced beyond their parameters or what they’re are and should be used for.
I do expect the A3 will improve as the A1 did and also A2 and we are all aware of the problems with most go pros over the years.
If you want to do something beyond the a3s scope then you have to be prepared to sometimes not to expect miracles.
The truth is none of these cameras 123 action go pros osmo pockets are perfect so its very easy to pick them apart, but if you bought to use use it or move on to something else.

StevoB · 2022-10-28

tpetran Posted at 10-28 01:58
[view_image]I kind of got lost in all the different issues reported, can we get a summary?

1. Are all cameras faulty or not?

It's out, like all OA3 :/

MarcoR · 2022-10-28

tpetran Posted at 10-28 01:21
GoPro is sharper, no doubt.

This is not a complete apples to apples comparison as other have previously stated here (I won't go into details again and again) but yeah all things aside this new 380€ camera should in any shape or form beat the old GoPro, at least that's what majority of disgruntled people here is saying. I can respect that but I still think this "issue" is blown up because of these tests that just excarbate A3 shortcomings (mainly because of lens-sensor physics but that's for another topic, more scientific one that a lot of people aren't capable to unterstand - or won't wilingly).

A clone, same performance, no difference.
Same production batch I did many tests, same results.
Perhaps it has not been realized that I make it a matter of principle more than anything else.
I'm fine with my OA3 for aerial shooting, it's great!
Certainly not a GoPro 11 but for 200€ less it is absolutely great.
But if you write that the focal length is over 30 centimeters and it is not that way then you have to justify me because it doesn't, when I buy a product and it doesn't meet what you have stated you are cheating me.
If DJI had written "acceptable focus from 30 to 100 cm, excellent beyond" buyers would not have been able to say anything once they bought it, since you purchased what was stated in the specs.

MarcoR · 2022-10-28

tpetran Posted at 10-28 01:58
[view_image]I kind of got lost in all the different issues reported, can we get a summary?

1. Are all cameras faulty or not?

The leaves are quite in focus, the bark absolutely not.

tpetran · 2022-10-28

Really? Wow, I would think that it is ok.
I mean I kind of got used to action cameras not being able to compare to the same generation phones but I clearly don't have an idea what is expected from an action camera. What would you compare the quality to? What would be the satisfactory level?
Maybe that is the reason for all the bickering on the forum.. that people have different standards.

I kind of "defend" the A3 as being ok and suitable quality but now I'm really interested in finding out what it should be according to you and others who are not satisfied. I have my opinion but I can always give the benefit of doubt of me being totally wrong.

MarcoR · 2022-10-28

tpetran Posted at 10-28 02:42
Really? Wow, I would think that it is ok.
I mean I kind of got used to action cameras not being able to compare to the same generation phones but I clearly don't have an idea what is expected from an action camera. What would you compare the quality to? What would be the satisfactory level?
Maybe that is the reason for all the bickering on the forum.. that people have different standards.

I wrote it above what I would expect, and in addition to writing it down I also felt that I should show it concretely: that certainly for the same number of pixels on the sensor array it would work better or equal than a 5-year-old action cam that we buy used for $150.

MarcoR · 2022-10-28

hallmark007 Posted at 10-28 01:59
You know I never argued there wasn’t some failings in the camera, but I clearly proved there are failings in all action cameras when they are forced beyond their parameters or what they’re are and should be used for.
I do expect the A3 will improve as the A1 did and also A2 and we are all aware of the problems with most go pros over the years.
If you want to do something beyond the a3s scope then you have to be prepared to sometimes not to expect miracles.

The upvote you currently have is mine.
But I am not forcing it beyond the stated parameters, I have shown you.
GoPro never wrote on its website that the minimum focal length of the HERO 6 was x centimeters, so a bad result like this would not be contestable.
And even in GoPro 11 it doesn't write it in the specifications.
DJI on the other hand has written it in their web site, and if you write it must be tangibly verifiable otherwise you are violating a sales contract.
"Focus range: 0.3 m to ∞"..... no!

hallmark007 · 2022-10-28

MarcoR Posted at 10-28 03:17
The upvote you currently have is mine.
But I am not forcing it beyond the stated parameters, I have shown you.
GoPro never wrote on its website that the minimum focal length of the HERO 6 was x centimeters, so a bad result like this would not be contestable.

I know that but ford wrote on their forum, you get 60 mpg with a Ford Focus but less than 99% of people achieve this, but no one returning their car.

We are all Marketing Men’s Dreams …

I think we will see A3 improve in time, it doesn’t mean it unusable go use it and enjoy your warranty is just running down .
Lets see what dji say after extensive testing on your second model. Funny people sometimes complain about receiving a refurb, but I have never seen anyone complain about a refurb giving any problems perhaps because they are give a second look.

I’m so against upvoting and downvoting and over the years I have tried with moderators to get it removed, I wish they would.

hallmark007 · 2022-10-28

MarcoR Posted at 10-28 03:08
I wrote it above what I would expect, and in addition to writing it down I also felt that I should show it concretely: that certainly for the same number of pixels on the sensor array it would work better or equal than a 5-year-old action cam that we buy used for $150.

These sensors have been around a long time, and if GP6 preforms better at close range focus you will find it falls down much harder in many other aspects of picture and video quality. Don’t judge the book by its cover.

MarcoR · 2022-10-28

hallmark007 Posted at 10-28 03:41
These sensors have been around a long time, and if GP6 preforms better at close range focus you will find it falls down much harder in many other aspects of picture and video quality. Don’t judge the book by its cover.

But it is certainly lacking in other things, it remains a very dated action cam.
The GoPro 11 also overheats and turns itself off much earlier than the OA3.
Each has pros and cons.

StevoB · 2022-10-28

hallmark007 Posted at 10-28 03:37
I know that but ford wrote on their forum, you get 60 mpg with a Ford Focus but less than 99% of people achieve this, but no one returning their car.

We are all Marketing Men’s Dreams …

The most important criterion in photo technology is the output quality, i.e. sharpness. Then the dynamic range, the color scale.......with an action camera, endurance, durability blah blah.....comparing the consumption of a car declared by the manufacturer is like comparing the battery life of a camera. You are probably the only one whose output quality is lower. You are entangled more and more. You are useful for me, but not on this forum, but as a teacher of self-control, Thank you ;)

hallmark007 · 2022-10-28

StevoB Posted at 10-28 03:51
The most important criterion in photo technology is the output quality, i.e. sharpness. Then the dynamic range, the color scale.......with an action camera, endurance, durability blah blah.....comparing the consumption of a car declared by the manufacturer is like comparing the battery life of a camera. You are probably the only one whose output quality is lower. You are entangled more and more. You are useful for me, but not on this forum, but as a teacher of self-control, Thank you ;)

You see you have great difficulty in comprehending, I buy a lens 23mm it boasts of focus at minimum distance of 24 cm, but try as i might it only works at 26 cm. The manufacturers tell me testing in optimum conditions it can focus at 24 cm but I first need to create the conditions. So this close focus is a minute part of this camera and if its a dermal breaker for you sell it you obviously haven’t a clue what its for or how to use it. I know how to use cameras and what they are for and you cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear.