PREFERENCES / RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHARGER?

Col F

Since the selected charger for the Avata 2 Fly More (3 batteries) will experience extended periods of utilization for charging 3 batteries (in sequence), as well as simultaneously charging the Goggles 3 and then the Motion Controller 3, I am wondering which of the DJI chargers, the 65 Watt with 1 USB C (captive cable) and 1 USB A (low wattage), or the 100 Watt with 2 USB C (with up to 82W to one port with the balance to the other port) would be the most appropriate choice. It "appears" that both are Gan chargers and both support PD 3 and PPS protocols. Your thoughts, insights and recommendations would be appreciated.

DJI Tony

HI, Col F. Thank you for reaching out. We suggest using the DJI 65W Portable Charger to ensure charging efficiency. Have a nice day ahead.

Col F

DJI Tony Posted at 4-13 20:10
HI, Col F. Thank you for reaching out. We suggest using the DJI 65W Portable Charger to ensure charging efficiency. Have a nice day ahead.

Thank you for the response. May I inquire why the lower capacity charger with fewer constant voltage modes and fewer variable voltage modes, and lower specifications will provide better performance? It seems counterintuitive to me, so I am evidently not aware of some important information. I would greatly appreciate understanding why the 65 watt charger is the best choice. Thank you for your assistance.

DJI Tony

Col F Posted at 4-14 03:46
Thank you for the response. May I inquire why the lower capacity charger with fewer constant voltage modes and fewer variable voltage modes, and lower specifications will provide better performance? It seems counterintuitive to me, so I am evidently not aware of some important information. I would greatly appreciate understanding why the 65 watt charger is the best choice. Thank you for your assistance.

Hello there. The maximum charging power for the AVATA 2 drone is 30W, while the charging hub has a power of 60W. You can still use a 100W charger, but it will still be limited to 30W or 60W when charging. Have a great day.

Dirty Bird

I wouldn't get the DJI charger. I would get the 140 watt charger below which is currently listed for $36. This is a 3-port charger that can do 65 watt + 65 watt or 100 watt + 30 watt in dual-port mode, or 65 watt + 45 watt + 30 watt in 3-port mode. I own this unit & it works great.

140W USB C Charger, PD3.1 GaN 3Port Type C Wall Charger Fast Charging Station Adapter, PD 100W PPS Charger Block for MacBook Pro 16"/Air, iPhone 14 Pro Max, Galaxy S22/S21,Tablet,Laptop-Black

140 Watt PD Charger

Dirty Bird

If you want to spend a bit more you can get this awesome 200 watt, 5-port model, with nifty OLED color display. It is currently on sale for $59.99 which is half-price. I own this unit also. Always receives comments when people notice the display. It is sweet & keeps you informed on voltage, current, & amps for each port during charging.

Aergiatech 200-watt PD Charger

Col F

Dirty Bird Posted at 4-15 04:49
If you want to spend a bit more you can get this awesome 200 watt, 5-port model, with nifty OLED color display. It is currently on sale for $59.99 which is half-price. I own this unit also. Always receives comments when people notice the display. It is sweet & keeps you informed on voltage, current, & amps for each port during charging.

Thanks for taking the time to offer the suggestions. I appreciate it. I'm finding it interesting that although the drone batteries Require chargers with USB PD and PPS, the Motion Controllers Do Not work with PD protocol chargers, and as for the Goggles I'm not quite certain yet about PD being supported or not...You'd think that this type of confusion could have been avoided by having all products use the same USB protocols / requirements, and by Including a USB charger with the kits. Thanks again!

Dirty Bird

Col F Posted at 4-15 07:48
Thanks for taking the time to offer the suggestions. I appreciate it. I'm finding it interesting that although the drone batteries Require chargers with USB PD and PPS, the Motion Controllers Do Not work with PD protocol chargers, and as for the Goggles I'm not quite certain yet about PD being supported or not...You'd think that this type of confusion could have been avoided by having all products use the same USB protocols / requirements, and by Including a USB charger with the kits. Thanks again!

All of the components will happily charge from a PD charger. The PD chargers are backwards compatible with legacy devices. PD just means the charger can handle the demands imposed by devices that support Power Delivery. You can charge the flight batteries, goggles, & motion controller all from the same PD charger.

trwalp

I just chatted with DJI support and was told by two different agents that:

"DJI Avata 2 supports 30W PD fast charging and can achieve a full charge from empty in approximately 88 minutes.

Motion Controller does not support PD fast charging, only 5V 2A

Goggles 3 not compatible with PD charger. No matter what you use, once it is connected, it will be charging at a 5V 2A, 10W rate."

OldGuy2024

Packrat here. Kept all the old 10 watt USB-A wall warts. Another reason why I purchased the Avata 2 Combo kit

. Max wall charger owned only puts out 45 watt. So.... ordered another wall wart. Bit of an Anker liker. Years of no issues with power banks, cables, and wall chargers. Giving their Nano2 65w charger a go. Do have an older 350 watt power source used on the old iCharger 206b, but not willing to diy an adapter for the DJI charging station. Wonder if DJI will every come out with a charging dock that allows for parallel charging of multiple batteries vs. their sequence system. Then they could market a 200 watt charging block for ?$$$s.

Ron Daugherty4

I just bought the avata 2 yesterday and disappointed it didn't come with charging cables, charger or instructions. I have no idea what to get.

A J

I bought the DJI 100W charger with two USB-C ports - I can charge 3 batteries from 15%-100% in two hours while charging the goggles simultaneously. That's all I need!

MRDroneRookie

trwalp Posted at 4-17 09:33
I just chatted with DJI support and was told by two different agents that:

"DJI Avata 2 supports 30W PD fast charging and can achieve a full charge from empty in approximately 88 minutes.

Hi. The information you received from DJI support is both wrong and misleading/confusing.

As DB mentions above , PD chargers are backwards compatible. If a device wants 5 Volts x 2 Amps that is all the PD charger will deliver (10W) even it is able to supply 140 W from a single port. PD chargers deliver the voltage and current requested by the device being charged.
When I charge my motion 3 with one of my PD chargers that has 3 ports that can each deliver up to a maximum ov 28 volts at 5 amps( 140 W) it only charges at it's max rate of 5V x 2A (10W)

The Avata 2 battery will charge at 30W ( 15V x 2 Amp) in the drone and 60W (20V x 3 Amp) in the charging hub.

The goggles 3 charge at 20 W when off ( 9V x 2.3 Amp) and will charge at around 25W when turned on ( 9V x 2.7 Amp) but some of that power is being used to power the display so the battery will charge slower. So if your goggles battery is running low they can be charged while flying with a portable power bank.

I have measured all of these outputs with a voltage and current power meter.

OldGuy2024

The Anker Nano2 65watt charges at a maximum of ~50watt/hr using the DJI charging station. Purchased a generic GaNIII (same looking and spec model from various sellers) 128watt charger. 2 USB-C and one USB-A. 65watt max if using just one of the USB-C ports. Similar performance as the Anker at ~50watt/hr. Total price for the two chargers was significantly less than the DJI charger block.

Duke56

I got this one to take with me so I can recharge away from home. Foldable charging prongs makes it compact to take with you in your bag:

https://a.co/d/fJDJayD

I got this one to use at home:

https://a.co/d/ghd7crd

jphughan

Quick add to the PD support discussion.

As noted, PD chargers are backward compatible with non-PD devices that only support 5V. And the fact that a device does not support using USB PD does not mean it can’t be charged from a charger that supports USB PD. The Avata 2, Goggles 3, and RC Motion 3 all charge just fine from PD chargers, though the Goggles and RC Motion 3 do not take advantage of PD capabilities.

HOWEVER, there are some devices out there that do not support USB PD and also will not charge from PD chargers. The reason is that devices that have USB-C ports but do not support PD are supposed to include a resistor across certain pins in the USB-C connector. This serves as a cue to the PD charger to fall back to legacy 5V, non-PD charging. But if the device manufacturer didn’t bother to add that resistor and the device itself doesn’t know how to perform a PD negotiation with the charger, then the device will not charge from a PD charger. You will instead need to use a USB-A charger (or some ugly hack involving a USB-C to USB-A cable plus a female A to male C connector to plug into the PD charger, which will prevent PD from being utilized.)

I have a ThruNite T2 flashlight that works as I just described. Definitely irritating, and I’d throw it away if it wasn’t otherwise so great as a flashlight.

Dirty Bird

trwalp Posted at 4-17 09:33
I just chatted with DJI support and was told by two different agents that:

"DJI Avata 2 supports 30W PD fast charging and can achieve a full charge from empty in approximately 88 minutes.

That only means that the devices will not charge at PD power levels. They will still charge from a PD charger at their maximum achievable charge level.

fichek

jphughan Posted at 5-30 09:29
Quick add to the PD support discussion.

As noted, PD chargers are backward compatible with non-PD devices that only support 5V. And the fact that a device does not support using USB PD does not mean it can’t be charged from a charger that supports USB PD. The Avata 2, Goggles 3, and RC Motion 3 all charge just fine from PD chargers, though the Goggles and RC Motion 3 do not take advantage of PD capabilities.

Even some of DJI's own devices (like FPV RC2) will not charge from a PD charger, so having a plain old USB 5V port is still a necessity if using one of those

MRDroneRookie

fichek Posted at 5-30 14:12
Even some of DJI's own devices (like FPV RC2) will not charge from a PD charger, so having a plain old USB 5V port is still a necessity if using one of those

Thats odd you have had that issue. My FPV RC2 charges fine with all of my PD chargers.

fichek

MRDroneRookie Posted at 5-30 14:39
Thats odd you have had that issue. My FPV RC2 charges fine with all of my PD chargers.

Huh, I've seen others complain about lack of PD support on FPVRC2 and some other devices (original Motion Controller iirc, maybe even FPVRC2). FPVRC3 and RCM3 charge fine with PD for me, but I just tried FPVRC2 again to confirm I wasn't going senile and it doesn't wanna charge unless I connect it to an old 5V usb charger or an USB-C to A adapter and then A to C cable which forces 5V mode on PD charger.

jphughan

MRDroneRookie Posted at 5-30 14:39
Thats odd you have had that issue. My FPV RC2 charges fine with all of my PD chargers.

Maybe there was a minor hardware revision? Adding a resistor to a USB-C connector is such a trivial thing that I’m amazed this problem ever came up anywhere.