Just read a news feed DJI is dropping GEO FENCING

Frunobulax

Hi I just read that DJI is no longer going to use GEO fencing , areas that were once restricted zones, termed NO FLY ZONES are now catagorized as enhaned warning zones and put the full responsability on the drone operator.
is this correct? I can finally fly my drone in my yard and see what my house looks like a few hundred feet in the air?, what i originally bought My Spark for almost 10 years ago.
Have a mini4 pro now. I live in a draconian no fly zone....it's basically for planes not drones. To fly my drone I have to drive almost 10 miles, this will be soooo cool. also would like to record sunsets at tree top level.
when does this take affect
is there a firmware release
what do I need to do this..............
is it an update to the DJI fly app on my controller?

BrianKushner

Philly is still geofencing of today and yes I updated the controller.

DAFlys

It was covered on Joshua Bardwell's live stream the other night, but just because the zone is removed from the Fly app doesn't give you permission to fly in one of the zones.

Frunobulax

DAFlys Posted at 1-15 02:24
It was covered on Joshua Bardwell's live stream the other night, but just because the zone is removed from the Fly app doesn't give you permission to fly in one of the zones.

i live in the 30 mile no fly zone around the Whitehouse. I live in Maryland. There is no way I could fly my DJI min4 pro to the Whitehouse. The no fly zone is for planes, The 30 mile zone is so that if a plane enters they have enough time to scramble interceptors from one of the 2x AF bases.. basically DJI is making us just like pilots of air planes ...fully responsible. will not be causing any trouble probably will not even go over 300ft AGL. I think most airports and I am sure military intsalations have warefare devices that knock GPS DRONES RIGHT OUT OF THE SKY. and of course BIgger drones have remote ID still.

DAFlys

Frunobulax Posted at 1-15 07:24
i live in the 30 mile no fly zone around the Whitehouse. I live in Maryland. There is no way I could fly my DJI min4 pro to the Whitehouse. The no fly zone is for planes, The 30 mile zone is so that if a plane enters they have enough time to scramble interceptors from one of the 2x AF bases.. basically DJI is making us just like pilots of air planes ...fully responsible. will not be causing any trouble probably will not even go over 300ft AGL. I think most airports and I am sure military intsalations have warefare devices that knock GPS DRONES RIGHT OUT OF THE SKY. and of course BIgger drones have remote ID still.

The no fly zone is to protect planes, if something goes wrong your drone can fly away without you having control of it.

djiuser_hO1hotPBLcbx

drones are no different to birds in the case a of a mini4

A wood Pidgeon can weigh 300-600grams for example.

most of the laws are ridiculous

is there a law against releasing a flock of birds in a no fly zone??? or encouraging them to live in your area.

Frunobulax

djiuser_hO1hotPBLcbx Posted at 1-15 08:53
drones are no different to birds in the case a of a mini4

A wood Pidgeon can weigh 300-600grams for example.

So true.... birds need remote ID to protect us. I just tried, still cannot fly in my own yard, the guy up the street with the FPV drone flys all the time

BrianKushner

Frunobulax Posted at 1-15 07:24
i live in the 30 mile no fly zone around the Whitehouse. I live in Maryland. There is no way I could fly my DJI min4 pro to the Whitehouse. The no fly zone is for planes, The 30 mile zone is so that if a plane enters they have enough time to scramble interceptors from one of the 2x AF bases.. basically DJI is making us just like pilots of air planes ...fully responsible. will not be causing any trouble probably will not even go over 300ft AGL. I think most airports and I am sure military intsalations have warefare devices that knock GPS DRONES RIGHT OUT OF THE SKY. and of course BIgger drones have remote ID still.

I have the same problem every weekend when Biden is in Wilmington. I'm 40 miles away and in an NFZ..Drones should have separate zones from planes.

Frunobulax

BrianKushner Posted at 1-15 10:00
I have the same problem every weekend when Biden is in Wilmington. I'm 40 miles away and in an NFZ..Drones should have separate zones from planes.

I wonder if they will cancel that when Biden is no longer POTUS

Exiled FPV

djiuser_hO1hotPBLcbx Posted at 1-15 08:53
drones are no different to birds in the case a of a mini4

A wood Pidgeon can weigh 300-600grams for example.

If you scroll down the page, you'll see what caused the damage....allegedly (I don't trust media...professional or social....and the government, of course.)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi ... raft-damaged-drone/

BrianKushner

Frunobulax Posted at 1-15 10:05
I wonder if they will cancel that when Biden is no longer POTUS

Ye. Only sitting Pres gets it.

BrianKushner

Just received an email from flysafe@dji.com - They confirmed the geofencing is off however you must update your FLYSAFE datanbase.

BrianKushner

Exiled FPV Posted at 1-15 10:11
If you scroll down the page, you'll see what caused the damage....allegedly (I don't trust media...professional or social....and the government, of course.)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-investigating-los-angeles-firefighting-aircraft-damaged-drone/

I too am suspect that a mini caused that. Few things..one there were Hurricane Force WInds that night, how did the mini fly? Secondly you would think a physics in play the drone would get blow up over the wing. But I'm no expert..

djiuser_hO1hotPBLcbx

Exiled FPV Posted at 1-15 10:11
If you scroll down the page, you'll see what caused the damage....allegedly (I don't trust media...professional or social....and the government, of course.)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-investigating-los-angeles-firefighting-aircraft-damaged-drone/

yea I'm ware they can still do damage.

but the restrictions for drones could be as simple as.
no flying above 100ft within 1 mile of an airport.

most people really don't need to fly very high and they aren't a threat a to aircraft.
unless there's a heli around, in which case you hear it long before it's anywhere near your drone and have time to get low.

Mynah

BrianKushner Posted at 1-15 10:23
Just received an email from - They confirmed the geofencing is off however you must update your FLYSAFE datanbase.

I suppose this is only applicable to the US?

Frunobulax

BrianKushner Posted at 1-14 20:23
Philly is still geofencing of today and yes I updated the controller.

UPDATE UR FLY SAFE DATA BASE...WORKS FOR ME

Frunobulax

djiuser_hO1hotPBLcbx Posted at 1-15 11:48
yea I'm ware they can still do damage.

but the restrictions for drones could be as simple as.

I have talked to pilots that said they can fly any height they want even under 400 ft in a residential neighborhood

BrianKushner

Mynah Posted at 1-15 12:41
I suppose this is only applicable to the US?

I'm not sure. That's what I've heard.

Frunobulax

BrianKushner Posted at 1-14 20:23
Philly is still geofencing of today and yes I updated the controller.

also did a firmware update

Dewey3

ZDNet is now reporting the dropping of the Geo Fencing, yet they still mentioned the air tanker collision:
https://www.pcmag.com/news/dji-ditches-geofencing-for-drones-faa

Frunobulax

Exiled FPV Posted at 1-15 10:11
If you scroll down the page, you'll see what caused the damage....allegedly (I don't trust media...professional or social....and the government, of course.)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-investigating-los-angeles-firefighting-aircraft-damaged-drone/

thanks for providing the link. i sure would not want to be the owner of that drone. it's probably a kid. when drone operators act stupid it makes us all look bad. Looks like it was a mini 3/4 pro,. I shy away from doing anything spectacular. just so amazed at what i see flying my drone such a beautiful world we live in.
I can now fly my Mini 4 pro in FPV mode IN MY YARD lol going to buy the goggles and an RC Motion 3

++++++++++++++++++ THANK YOU DJI ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

nazgull

djiuser_hO1hotPBLcbx Posted at 1-15 08:53
drones are no different to birds in the case a of a mini4

A wood Pidgeon can weigh 300-600grams for example.

It's almost a fair comparison except birds are squishy with a bumper of feathers. (apart from the beak and bones like toothpicks) . Bring a hard plastic drone with metal motors and an aircraft skinned with thin aluminum together at -oh,say-200knots? and there's some physics to increase the impact a lot.

Whoever had that drone up in that 50-100 knot wind might have been running at top speed to try and get it back and it looks to be head-on. A bit of a fluke, really.

axel.seedig@ocu

djiuser_hO1hotPBLcbx Posted at 1-15 11:48
yea I'm ware they can still do damage.

but the restrictions for drones could be as simple as.
no flying above 100ft within 1 mile of an airport.

most people really don't need to fly very high and they aren't a threat a to aircraft.
unless there's a heli around, in which case you hear it long before it's anywhere near your drone and have time to get low.

That is not correct.

Depending on wind direction and helicopter type, they can be suddenly above you and you didn't hear them until it is too late. I fly drones professionally and I can condirm that the rules and regulations are there for a reason. Same applies to low flying fighter jet planes.

Regarding no-fly-zones: here in the UK you have a 2.5 nm radius around an airport where you need the permission from ATC to operate any drone. Depending how close you are to the approach sector you also have an altitude limit depending on the distance down to 50ft.

I am not sure about the F.A.A. regulations, but I could imagine they are quite similar.

djiuser_YPe5ai8FyeTs

Does anyone know the FW that removed geo fencing? I have .0900 version but I didn’t see a difference from the previous version?

Frunobulax

djiuser_YPe5ai8FyeTs Posted at 1-16 07:45
Does anyone know the FW that removed geo fencing? I have .0900 version but I didn’t see a difference from the previous version?

it's the fly safe update that you need to remove geo fencing , just run all the updates b/c i also did the firmware. Before I fly I always at home 1. check over my min4 pro for anything physically wrong with it
2. I see if there are any updates, i update everything
3. Then I check the Compass and all the other hardware
4. I do a pre-flight check b4 flying.
5. once the mini and controller are bound. i start recording the screen and i go through all the settings, recording them for a flight log
6. off i go

Frunobulax

BrianKushner Posted at 1-15 10:26
I too am suspect that a mini caused that. Few things..one there were Hurricane Force WInds that night, how did the mini fly? Secondly you would think a physics in play the drone would get blow up over the wing. But I'm no expert..

not sure about the up over the wing, the plane is probably going somewhere between 100mph and 200mph.....stuff happens quick at those speeds....

Mynah

Typical 'Merican press paranoia, 'plane was hit by drone', lol, rather drone was hit by plane, and, please, nobody died, drone was totally destroyed (r.i.p. Mini 'X'), plane was patched up and continued flying, in fact, pilot was not even aware that the multi tonne plane hit a 250gram drone until he was safely on the ground.
I know, the drone was not supposed to be there, but  myself coming from a press/news background, when hard news dries up, rather resort to intellectual content than stirring up paranoia by taking advantage of the public's lack of general knowledge and basic intellect.
You know what, the 'Merican press is a constant source of amusement, what became of the 'drone spotting' paranoia, started with drones the size of cars and ended with drones the size of busses?  Not even the 'authorities' had a clue what the local press was on about

djiuser_YPe5ai8FyeTs

Frunobulax Posted at 1-16 08:10
it's the fly safe update that you need to remove geo fencing , just run all the updates b/c i also did the firmware. Before I fly I always at home 1. check over my min4 pro for anything physically wrong with it
2. I see if there are any updates, i update everything
3. Then I check the Compass and all the other hardware

Thanks for the reply. I updated the Flysafe data in the about tab on the controller. I will give a fly tomorrow to check it out.

Kyokushin

Thats good news, that is how it should be done since the beginning. Warning zones, advisory, information, help, not imposed limitations.

Frunobulax

axel.seedig@ocu Posted at 1-16 03:50
That is not correct.

Depending on wind direction and helicopter type, they can be suddenly above you and you didn't hear them until it is too late. I fly drones professionally and I can condirm that the rules and regulations are there for a reason. Same applies to low flying fighter jet planes.

the only time a helicopter surprised me, it was one of the State police AH-139's possibly in some sort of stealth mode, outside of that I USUALLY HEAR HELICOPTERS 5-15 MINUTES before I see them. I am about 60 miles away from the Army's air Cavalry , can always hear them a long way off lol. They follow all the highways it seems to get where they are going or for training, especially the 6 lane one that goes around the city. Where I live I ask what is there I can endanger flying my drone? there is no way I could make it to the Whitehouse, not that I would want to., probably could not even make it out of Maryland lol. I am directly in the runway for Reagan National airport probably 5 miles away. We get a few, very few over the house that have taken off and they are usually just finished climbing out or have leveled off at a few thousand feet. Never seen a plane coming in for a landing, They usually follow the Potomac river down to the airport. I mean I get it, they want to protect the Whitehouse/ Capitol building etc....but from planes.. not drones. they should make a drone flying zone in the outer ring that extends into MD/Va ...or is that asking too much from our Government aren't the Government officials working for us...we the people, we pay their salaries with taxes we pay. just by blatently waving their hand because they can and make a draconian no fly zone makes little sense.

djiuser_YPe5ai8FyeTs

djiuser_YPe5ai8FyeTs Posted at 1-16 15:50
Thanks for the reply. I updated the Flysafe data in the about tab on the controller. I will give a fly tomorrow to check it out.

Seems to have worked. Thank you.

Bigplumbs

Kyokushin Posted at 1-17 00:05
Thats good news, that is how it should be done since the beginning. Warning zones, advisory, information, help, not imposed limitations.

Absolutely it is up to people to decide on laws not for others to force them.

djiuser_YPe5ai8FyeTs

BrianKushner Posted at 1-14 20:23
Philly is still geofencing of today and yes I updated the controller.

Philly still Geofencing?

AboveTerra

BrianKushner Posted at 1-15 10:26
I too am suspect that a mini caused that. Few things..one there were Hurricane Force WInds that night, how did the mini fly? Secondly you would think a physics in play the drone would get blow up over the wing. But I'm no expert..

Ok so... If there were "hurricane force winds" when this occurred the Canadair CL-415 would not have been flying to begin with. And the collision did not happen at night, this happened around 10am local time. It helps to know what you are talking about.