LRF Files - Why?
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djiuser_rd7xIpS3yHwp
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Partorg Posted at 2021-3-28 07:27
Hi.
Is it possible to disable  creating of LRF files in settings?
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Olá.

O Sr conseguiu desativar o LRF? Isso atrapalha muito, não consigo arrastar no Premiere, e o arquivo original DJI MP4, tambem nao entra no Premiere, aparece uma mensagem dizendo que o arquivo HEVC
2023-5-11
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djiuser_Vf14jUJSTMAP
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Please allow disabling of LRF files. I cannot use them, they take up space and they add an extra step in workflow to remove.

Once, I deleted a days footage because I was tired and was sloppy with a command (rm * .lrf) and confirmed it without realising I'd just agreed to nuke a days worth of video. As it was command line deletion, there was no recovery that was worthwhile. Yes it was my fault, but those pesky lrf files - a pox upon them.
2023-5-31
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Aavalaakso
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Generating LRF files is useless. Also when camera is steady and recording screen could go off and could be selected its behavior. Allowing to disable these things would save a lot battery from Pocket 2.
2023-5-31
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CineAir.com
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Remove or Disable the LFR, not useful and fills up the SD card. As far as non-professional, I use the Avata for interiors in 4k 60 in CineD, so yes these do get used on professional projects.
Id rather know my card is going to last than have a bunch of files I need to delete and then change sd cards out of the avatar both being a bit of a pain.I have enough on my plate and would not miss it if LFR simply disappeared never to be seen again.....

2023-6-9
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Wellwellwell
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Just chiming in here a few years later to ask anyone at DJI to please please please remove this unnecessary feature or at least let 99.9% of it's users to simply switch it off! We live in a society you know! lol
2023-7-12
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deztiny
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More than half a year has passed and sadly no information about this "feature". Its a really simply additional option in settings menu, PLEASE let us know if there is any progress on that!
2023-8-2
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djiuser_Cdsp7Pps3v8j
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2023.08.12. Néhány napja vásároltam a DJI Osmo Action4 kamerát, és bizony ezek az LRF fájlok továbbra is az SD kártyára kerülnek. Az akkumulátort teljesen feltöltve helyeztem a kamerába, alig használtam 15-20 percet és az akkumulátor máris lemerült 45%-ra, ez bizony nagyon nem jó eredmény, hiszen 150 per cet kéne bírnia, vagy nem igaz a kezelésiben lévő paraméter, Ráadásul a 2.db. tartalék akkumulátort persze odahaza felejtettem így aztán itt 45%-nál abba is hagytam a felvétel készítést.
Még egy észrevétel, a nagy érintőképernyő kezelése nagyon körülményes, hiába nyomok rá bármelyik ikonra, csak sokadszórra nyílik meg az adott menü. Na, de nem baj, hiszen nem az érintőképernyővel fogom használni, hanem a DJI OSMO App-al, aminek a képernyő kezelése tetszik és jól használható, még a zoom is sokkal egyszerűbb használni.
A telefont (iPhone  12 mini), ráerősítettem a kapott Selfi-botra, egy kerékpáros telefontartóval, szerintem szuper megoldás, így a kamerát nem is kell elérnem a kezeléshez és nagy képernyőn látom az élőképet is!
2023-8-12
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smbishop
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Maybe with the Pocket 3, if it ever turns up!
2023-8-12
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suvi
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I found usage for the LRF files and it's actually pretty handy. I use them as proxy files for improving editing speed.
Just copy them in a separate folder and use PowerRename (from Windows PowerToys) or similar to quickly change their extension to MP4.

Would be nice to have an option to disable their creation though.
2023-8-31
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fansb73433dc
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I use DJI O3 Air Unit, and also have this LRF files, they are useless only take up space, how I can disable them?
2023-9-1
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deztiny
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fansb73433dc Posted at 9-1 20:30
I use DJI O3 Air Unit, and also have this LRF files, they are useless only take up space, how I can disable them?

There is still no option/switch which is why this topic is existing and we are begging DJI since many month to implement it!
2023-9-26
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djiuser_2UpkRYtKDIN6
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Still not an option to not have these files - 2+ years after initial request. Typical.
2023-10-3
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mangoon
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Yes please remove those files! At Least for o3! I'm flying a pavo Pico with a naked o3 without the SD Card Slot and those cost me alot of the record TIme for the internal Storage... Had some flights today and form the 19 Minutes I get with internal storage I had aroudn 3 gigs of LRF files, that would have been another 3 Minutes... That doesn't sound as much in the beginning, but when you only have 19 Minutes, 3 is a lot!
2023-11-26
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userFox
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+1 for option to turn off.  Using Osmo Action 4

these little things are the stuff that ruins brands.  stop all the try hard nonsense.  
1-13 07:15
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sergio fernandez
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Hola!
que decepción, acabo de probar el dji avata y al grabar y llegar a casa, paso los archivos y se generan dos por vídeo, uno mp4 y otro lrf, si no mando los dos juntos a VLC media playera el vídeo no se ve
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sergio fernandez Posted at 3-3 05:35
Hola!
que decepción, acabo de probar el dji avata y al grabar y llegar a casa, paso los archivos y se generan dos por vídeo, uno mp4 y otro lrf, si no mando los dos juntos a VLC media playera el vídeo no se ve

Wrong forum, but will answer you.

You should not need the .LRF file for plaback. It is only a 720p .mp4 file that is used for playback on screen and/or phone.
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sergio fernandez Posted at 3-3 05:35
Hola!
que decepción, acabo de probar el dji avata y al grabar y llegar a casa, paso los archivos y se generan dos por vídeo, uno mp4 y otro lrf, si no mando los dos juntos a VLC media playera el vídeo no se ve

As johansenphoto says, you can ignore the .LRF files, these are the exact same as the other file(s), check the filenames and you will see. These .LRF files are used for playback on the camera or phone, they can also be used as proxy files if your computer/laptop used for editing cannot handle 4K and or HVEC files (stuttering and choppy during playback or scrubbing), proxy files (low res (LRF)) can be used in place of the originals then when all editing is complete, it will save all the editing to the orignal files.

You can easily remove the files (in few seconds) by arranging the folder by file type, then highlight them all and hit CTRL (skips recycle bin) + Delete.

3-3 19:38
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Bashy
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Whilst yes, not saving the .LRF files would save on processing power, thus lower temps, lower battery consumption and less space used.  The question is, by how much, in my opinion, i do not think it would be that noticeable, I mean, the running time fluctuates all the time anyway, different outside temps, recording settings etc, you'd only notice if the recording was the exact same every time and inside where the temp is the exact same all the time.

The space used by these files in this day and age shouldnt be a factor. 1, you should have ample space due to the cost per gb, 2, you should use a card big enough to last a full battery and change the card with each battery swap, at least that way, if anything should, happen (and it does), lost camera, card fault etc, you will not lose ALL of your footage, just that battery's worth.

If an option ever becomes available to disable the .LRF files, this will mean, 1, no playback possible on the camera, editing in the Mimo app could be affected, I know for a fact that the Mimo app cannot handle the larger files as also confirmed by DJI. That means you wont be able to edit in the field, you will need to wait till you transfer to your larger devices.

I dont think the gains would be that noticeable, the real noticeable difference would be saving the valuable few seconds when arranging the files on your Windows or mac device.

I have left this point till the end, the LRF can be used as proxies but there is one caveat, only if you record in 30fps, if you record in say 60fps, the sound is affected (sped up), Ive not found a way around this yet so i just encode the proxies myself.

Just to say, i am not for or against .LRF files, because I need to record for around 2hrs, therefore, i can only record in 1080/60 so as not to overheat, this means i can record utill the battery dies and in turn i dont run out of space as my card(s) are of ample size.

Something to note, this thread was started over 3 years ago, i think its falling on deaf ears now, DJI's R&D did contribute to the thread but only in that they confirmed that they can be used as proxies. Take that as you may.

These are just my thoughts, so please,  dont get upset, i am not dissing your opinion and i just giving my take on it. It does not affect me in anyway and have no problem with DJI adding a setting to disable them, i wont ever use it, well, i might just to test to see what savings are gained with it turned off
3-3 20:17
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Fuxflight
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I think DJI should care for their customer and give an option to disable this.

All this does to people who do not want the LRF file is to create added heat, more stress on the onboard cpu, lower battery times, and more post processing work.

I kindly ask you to give us the ability to choose. A good company will serve their customer, not the other way around! Always remember that, otherwise your will be soon your own downfall!
3-14 15:10
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Fuxflight Posted at 3-14 15:10
I think DJI should care for their customer and give an option to disable this.

All this does to people who do not want the LRF file is to create added heat, more stress on the onboard cpu, lower battery times, and more post processing work.

Hi there. Thank you for reaching out. Regretfully, there is no option to disable it during recording, but you can delete these files after recording. Rest assured that we will record this suggestion of yours and forward it to the respective team for future consideration. We appreciate your understanding and support.
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Rompix
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Create some text documents and rename them egs.
DJI_0002.LRF then just write-protect them and it's done!
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hexcross
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Just bought DJI Pocket 3 and reading this thread because I have same issue. Its a huge shame on DJI support and huge shame on DJI devs which are ignoring this basic issue for two years!!!!!!
4-23 02:56
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fans60c4cf60
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I believe we need those low-res versions for e.g. preview the videos thru mobile  and allow trimming (prior to download) thru easy transfer feature of the dji fly app... otherwise it would be unmanageable amount of data to be transferred for a simple preview, and you would only be able to download the full version
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Ranta62 Posted at 2022-4-13 06:58
Its now April 2022 and I am using the latest Pocket 2 Firmware. These annoying LRF files are still there and canl;t be turned off as far as I am aware in settings

DJI - please can you add a new setting to allow users to turn this off.

It's now 2024 and nothing has happened. My SD card (Pocket 3) is full and slow because every file is doubled
5-9 05:53
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Dana Bayoumi Posted at 5-9 05:53
It's now 2024 and nothing has happened. My SD card (Pocket 3) is full and slow because every file is doubled

Hi there. Thank you for reaching out. We don't have an option to turn off the LRF file as it is needed for video playback. You can manually delete the file. We appreciate your understanding.
5-10 03:03
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DJI Paladin Posted at 5-10 03:03
Hi there. Thank you for reaching out. We don't have an option to turn off the LRF file as it is needed for video playback. You can manually delete the file. We appreciate your understanding.

While it may seem quite counterintuitive, maybe even ridicolous, to allow to disable such a critical feature and risk some users to complain about "breaking" their camera, it's also true that these files take a lot of space and probably have some form of impact on the longevity of the battery.

For example, I recorded a few clips all around 8gb today, each LRF file is at or a little above 1gb, so ~12% extra occupied space.

Adding an option to disable this extra processing step in generating that file, as a semi-hidden advanced option could work. We already have a few advanced options for advanced users that the average person wouldn't mess with. Just make it clear "Disable LRF files - WARNING: PREVIEWING FILES WILL BE DISABLED ON CAMERA AND ON APP" and put it in the bottom of the list of advanced options.

My use case isn't vlogging or other activities that could benefit from reviewing or even previewing the recording, I have both screens turned off as I place it on my motorcycle helmet and then see and modify the files on my PC at home. I think a lot of people, including the ones begging in this thread, have a similar situation.

Squeezing some extra battery duration and needing to empty the SD less often would be quite nice. If I ever need to review the recording on camera or on my smartphone via Mimo, then I could always restore that hypothetical option before recording.
5-16 15:18
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LeoFromItaly Posted at 5-16 15:18
While it may seem quite counterintuitive, maybe even ridicolous, to allow to disable such a critical feature and risk some users to complain about "breaking" their camera, it's also true that these files take a lot of space and probably have some form of impact on the longevity of the battery.

For example, I recorded a few clips all around 8gb today, each LRF file is at or a little above 1gb, so ~12% extra occupied space.

Hello. We appreciate your feedback. Rest assured that we will record this and forward it to our relevant team for attention. Thank you for your understanding and support.
5-16 22:58
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Dear DJI officials, this LRF file appears on my Pocket 2 and Air 3 devices and it is very annoying. Why do you allow a file to exist that we will delete? If only you had given us the right to choose. Please do not remain insensitive to this problem and offer a solution as soon as possible. Thanks.
5-18 13:09
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Mehmet Sarıca Posted at 5-18 13:09
Dear DJI officials, this LRF file appears on my Pocket 2 and Air 3 devices and it is very annoying. Why do you allow a file to exist that we will delete? If only you had given us the right to choose. Please do not remain insensitive to this problem and offer a solution as soon as possible. Thanks.

Hi there. We acknowledge that we have received the same concerns and suggestions from other DJI Pilots before. What we will do is continue to record such feedback and ensure that it reaches our related team. We are sorry for any inconvenience this has caused you. We hope this will be considered soon. Your understanding is greatly appreciated.
5-19 02:30
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Did you manage to solve the problem with LRF? It takes up a lot of memory and the flash card fills up quickly!!!
please solve this problem!
5-20 19:25
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DJI Paladin Posted at 5-19 02:30
Hi there. We acknowledge that we have received the same concerns and suggestions from other DJI Pilots before. What we will do is continue to record such feedback and ensure that it reaches our related team. We are sorry for any inconvenience this has caused you. We hope this will be considered soon. Your understanding is greatly appreciated.

Here is the translation to your "corporate reply":

"DJI does not care enough about drone buyers to spend the money to change what has been an user issue for moer than three  years. This is despite the software upgrades that have been done during this time and indicates how much we don't care what you folks want."

I have two DJI drones and would recommend them to anyone, but I will also tell them how unresponsive DJI is to the wishes of their users.
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djiuser_pP47neWsGMjG Posted at 7-9 03:40
Here is the translation to your "corporate reply":

"DJI does not care enough about drone buyers to spend the money to change what has been an user issue for moer than three  years. This is despite the software upgrades that have been done during this time and indicates how much we don't care what you folks want."

Hi there, we extend our sincere gratitude for your valuable advice. We apologize for any delay that may occur during the implementation of changes. Rest assured, your feedback holds immense significance to us, and we will promptly forward it to the appropriate team for thorough evaluation. Our continuous pursuit of excellence drives us to constantly improve. We encourage you to stay updated with the latest news and developments on our official DJI website at www.dji.com.

Thank you wholeheartedly for your understanding and unwavering support!
7-9 22:20
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People do not understand that DJI is an Asian company. Asian people and companies don't like to say no. They will say they are working on it and say the request or problem has gone up one step in the hierarchy chain. That's how these companies work. And for years they are just being polite, because that's the way to go. BUT if you read their replies carefully they are saying the system and software depends on the .lrf files. So there you have it, that's your answer.

So buy a bigger SD-card and forget about this issue and delete the .lrf files manually or set up an action on your computer so it does this for you. And spend your time flying instead of waisting your time behind a computer trying to solve a non-issue.
7-18 00:30
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Sept 2024 and still dealing with LRF files
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djiuser_fX2TEPrnuQUa Posted at 9-18 09:40
Sept 2024 and still dealing with LRF files

Hi there,
thank you for reaching out.

Kindly inform us the full details of the issue that you experienced with your DJI product, and we will surely provide you with an accurate resolution after we review the details. Rest assured that we're committed to providing the best experience for our users.

Please keep us posted. Thank you for understanding.
9-19 01:55
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djiuser_fX2TEPrnuQUa Posted at 9-18 09:40
Sept 2024 and still dealing with LRF files

You will continue to deal with LRF files, until something better comes along..

Reading through this topic, it seems people fail to realize that these files are there because the DJI app sucks.. To combat all the complaints from people about slow preview times in the app; they attempted to solve it by using Low Res files, easier to load a 1GB file than a 17GB over wifi..

Until they improve their garbage MIMO app (which still doesn't support directly connecting the iPhone USB-C to the camera for file loading/transfer.. after a year from the release of the iPhone 15/USB-C ) then the LRF file will remain..

Sort by File Type, and delete them.
Or if on a Mac, use a shortcut that does it automatically checks for LRF file extension, and deletes them every time a mSD card is inserted. Personally, I use Hazel app for this.
10-8 09:01
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personally i just delete all after i get back. useless to me.
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