Have a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lvcFgvQ868

yves wouters Posted at 12-31 02:13
Have a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lvcFgvQ868

The new firmware was released 10 days ago but the video is a month old. It basically shows how it used to work (he makes some good points though). Unfortunately this thread is about something which we believe has changed in this latest firmware release, i.e. 10 days ago.

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Спасибо, хорошее видео. Я уже много раз говорил, что у меня много дронов и я сажаю дрон на руку уже 4 года. Проблема в том, что Mini 4 с новой прошивкой ведет себя не так, как другие дроны, вот это я и хотел уточнить.

Ah,all right. I think the safest way is to get the drone at aprox. 1.2m alt, let it hoover and pick it out of the sky. flipping it upside down is a way to stop the engine but I'm not sure that is adviced.

StepCH Posted at 2023-12-30 03:51
Have you updated to the latest firmware?

Hi, I still have the previous to last fw in RC2 and drone, I didn't install on the December version. I usually do the latest update in general with electronics, but in this case I prefer to wait.
Call it a "hunch" for example, but there are more of those factors and strange messages and in my case C0 declassification too. During the last update I had a problem, there are also now some battery issues, as I can see some sensors issuses, RTH, for photos resolution and EXIF.. I don't need to use the new features yet, I'd rather wait.

If there was a possibility to downgrade, I would try the new fw as well, but if there is no way back, I won't risk it yet :]

Just keep holding down on your controller and keep your hand level.

Mini-G Posted at 1-3 05:03
Just keep holding down on your controller and keep your hand level.

Which firmware version are you currently using?

JJB* Posted at 2023-12-29 05:01
yes, but not tested this with hand catching, will do tomorrow

@JJB, have you tried hand landing again with the new firmware?

StepCH Posted at 1-3 06:26
@JJB, have you tried hand landing again with the new firmware?

Hi, not yet, did tried it on a other DJI drone
and that did work fine.

JJB* Posted at 1-3 09:19
Hi, not yet, did tried it on a other DJI drone
and that did work fine.

As and when you get a chance I'd be grateful if you could post your results here. It worked perfectly for me until I updated the firmware, so it would appear to be specific to the Mini 4 and the latest firmware (21. December).
I wanted to make a short video but it's extremely windy here so I'm grounded for the moment.
Thanks

StepCH Posted at 1-3 09:58
As and when you get a chance I'd be grateful if you could post your results here. It worked perfectly for me until I updated the firmware, so it would appear to be specific to the Mini 4 and the latest firmware (21. December).
I wanted to make a short video but it's extremely windy here so I'm grounded for the moment.
Thanks

windy...we had storm Gerrit and storm Henk over my country....happy that my house is still there ; i live at the coast!

If the weather permist, will fly my Mini4pro and let you know the results.

cheers
JJB

I have the latest December 2023 firmware and hand launch and land often, I made a point of checking it after reading this thread. I use normal mode, stetch your arm up over your head and hold your palm out flat like a little landing pad a foot or so under the drone, once its decided your hand is an acceptable landing spot, you''ll hear the motors change pitch and it will start to desend to your hand. Once its coming down, I gently grab it by the sides of the belly between my thumb and index fingers, hold the left stick down the whole time till the motors turn off. Just be patient, lol

Manitobahunter Posted at 1-3 19:23
I have the latest December 2023 firmware and hand launch and land often, I made a point of checking it after reading this thread. I use normal mode, stetch your arm up over your head and hold your palm out flat like a little landing pad a foot or so under the drone, once its decided your hand is an acceptable landing spot, you''ll hear the motors change pitch and it will start to desend to your hand. Once its coming down, I gently grab it by the sides of the belly between my thumb and index fingers, hold the left stick down the whole time till the motors turn off. Just be patient, lol

Thanks for your patience
I had been landing onto my hand for about 2-3 weeks, with absolutely no issues at all prior to the firmware update. From then on, up to the end of the year, I just couldn't get it to work at all - probably over 50 attempts. Yesterday I tried again, and it worked first time! I'm now completely confused. I have no idea what I was doing wrong, but obviously I was doing something wrong!
I feel it takes maybe 1-2 seconds longer before it decides to land compared to what I recollect, but I can't believe I didn't wait long enough before.

OK, my bad, I'm sorry for the confusion, and thanks to everyone for their support.
Step

StepCH Posted at 1-5 07:06
Thanks for your patience
I had been landing onto my hand for about 2-3 weeks, with absolutely no issues at all prior to the firmware update. From then on, up to the end of the year, I just couldn't get it to work at all - probably over 50 attempts. Yesterday I tried again, and it worked first time! I'm now completely confused. I have no idea what I was doing wrong, but obviously I was doing something wrong!
I feel it takes maybe 1-2 seconds longer before it decides to land compared to what I recollect, but I can't believe I didn't wait long enough before.

I also tested the fit on my hand today. The problem remains, the mini 4 behaves differently than other drones. In order for the mini 4 to sit on your hand, you have to start lowering your hand down, without this the drone hangs over your hand and refuses to sit down, I waited for a very long time.

yves wouters Posted at 2023-12-31 03:28
Ah,all right. I think the safest way is to get the drone at aprox. 1.2m alt, let it hoover and pick it out of the sky. flipping it upside down is a way to stop the engine but I'm not sure that is adviced.

Grabbing and flipping the drone upside down is just asking for trouble,
Mostly safety wise,unless one likes cut fingers.I don't think it is the best for the drone either.

Serg SSA Posted at 1-5 08:25
I also tested the fit on my hand today. The problem remains, the mini 4 behaves differently than other drones. In order for the mini 4 to sit on your hand, you have to start lowering your hand down, without this the drone hangs over your hand and refuses to sit down, I waited for a very long time.

That was exactly my experience until yesterday. Then it just worked. I tried again today with different avoidance bypassing options, Normal vs Nifty, and both worked just fine.
It would have been nice to be able to revert back to the previous firmware for comparison, but as we know, that's not currently possible.
I wish I could explain it!

StepCH Posted at 1-5 08:38
That was exactly my experience until yesterday. Then it just worked. I tried again today with different avoidance bypassing options, Normal vs Nifty, and both worked just fine.
It would have been nice to be able to revert back to the previous firmware for comparison, but as we know, that's not currently possible.
I wish I could explain it!

Yes, I took advantage of your experience)
I have a mini 3 pro and a mavic 2, they land on my hands without problems, 1-2 seconds after hovering in the air. The problem is related to the operation of the sensors, because if they are turned off, the landing occurs without problems.

StepCH Posted at 1-5 08:38
That was exactly my experience until yesterday. Then it just worked. I tried again today with different avoidance bypassing options, Normal vs Nifty, and both worked just fine.
It would have been nice to be able to revert back to the previous firmware for comparison, but as we know, that's not currently possible.
I wish I could explain it!

Hi StepCH,

I was lucky enough to get a mini4 pro for Christmas  and initially also had difficulty in hand landing. Software etc. all up to date. What was causing the problem for me was that on the occasions when it wouldn't land in/on my hand was that I had initiated automatic RTH. I found if I cancelled RTH then manually tried to land it would do so without any problem by just pulling back the left hand stick. For me It works fine in both normal and cine modes.

Hope that's of some use to you.

djiuser_zuAXPPQuOgQv Posted at 1-5 09:10
Hi StepCH,

I was lucky enough to get a mini4 pro for Christmas  and initially also had difficulty in hand landing. Software etc. all up to date. What was causing the problem for me was that on the occasions when it wouldn't land in/on my hand was that I had initiated automatic RTH. I found if I cancelled RTH then manually tried to land it would do so without any problem by just pulling back the left hand stick. For me It works fine in both normal and cine modes.

You could say my Mini 4 was an "advanced" Christmas present... from myself to myself
I think I can safely say my tests towards the end of last year were without RTH. Just taking off and trying to land in my hand, around 50 times! Nevertheless, thanks for the tip and have fun flying your Christmas present

Have experienced same problem after latest firmware upgrade

I landed on my hand fine until the latest update it then hovers a few feet off my hand and just hovers. I tried pointing the bird away from me and it landed as it did. I don’t turn off OA either.

As and when you get a chance I'd be grateful if you could post your results here. It worked perfectly for me until I updated the firmware, so it would appear to be specific to the Mini 4 and the latest firmware (21. December).
I wanted to make a short video but it's extremely windy here so I'm grounded for the moment.
Thanks

Hi,

Finally good weather to fly, only relative strong wind but blue sky !

Hand catching on my MINI4Pro ; only thing i noticed that time before landing starts is longer than before...if i remember that correct.

Mini4pro on the latest firmware.

see the video.

http://vimeo.com/user53985573





cheers
JJB

JJB* Posted at 1-7 08:10
Hi,

Finally good weather to fly, only relative strong wind but blue sky !
[Image]

I‘m glad you survived the storms!
That‘s pretty much the behaviour I‘m now seeing. Thanks for posting.
Step

Sport mode solves the problem. Switched to sport mode and landed in my hand, cine and normal not possible. Definetely this drone behafes different, but when in sport mode it's same behaviour as my old mini 2

I land my mini 2 in my hand all the time it's best if you come tword you backwards also remember it's got the sensor on the bottom of the drone so it's gonna wanna go back up when the sensors see your hand you just gotta hold down on the transmitter and it will land in your palm be careful though its easy to get cut with the props I've definitely done it before

Jan Spacil Posted at 2023-12-30 03:38
I don't have a problem with launching the drone from my hand, it's just a matter of learning to control the RC2 with one hand :]
Hand landing is also fine, left controller downwards and wait a while, so far I haven't had a problem that the drone doesn't drop slowly into my hand after a while.

I do it this way too. Some people have suggested this will harm the drone, but DC Rainmaker on Youtube, who knows drones awfully well says that's not true and says he's been doing it for years with no problems.

maldiv097 Posted at 1-10 04:51
I land my mini 2 in my hand all the time it's best if you come tword you backwards also remember it's got the sensor on the bottom of the drone so it's gonna wanna go back up when the sensors see your hand you just gotta hold down on the transmitter and it will land in your palm be careful though its easy to get cut with the props I've definitely done it before

If you decide to answer in this topic, please read carefully what the problem is. The problem is not that the drone cannot be placed on your hand at all, but that with the latest firmware it behaves differently. Moreover, you should not compare it with other drones.

I land my mini 2 in my hand all the time it's best if you come tword you backwards also remember it's got the sensor on the bottom of the drone so it's gonna wanna go back up when the sensors see your hand you just gotta hold down on the transmitter and it will land in your palm be careful though its easy to get cut with the props I've definitely done it before
9apps

maldiv097 Posted at 1-16 03:49
I land my mini 2 in my hand all the time it's best if you come tword you backwards also remember it's got the sensor on the bottom of the drone so it's gonna wanna go back up when the sensors see your hand you just gotta hold down on the transmitter and it will land in your palm be careful though its easy to get cut with the props I've definitely done it before
9apps

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... 318&pid=3221993

I recently experienced issues with hand grab as well - I've done it a hundred times before without any issues with the Mini 2, Mini 3 Pro and Mini 4 Pro - but recently (maybe since the last FW update?) it does not work anymore. It ascends a bit when I move my flat hand beyond the drone, and then it does not come down when I move the descend stick. As said, worked hundred times before, now it doesn't do reliably. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. This is annoying when being at a location without appropriate landing surface around!
I need to try to switch to sports mode and see if if works reliably in that mode.

Reposting what I posted above, I did the same yesterday with the Integra goggle, and motion 2. I think the difference here is I have the drone probably 2.5 meters off the ground, and stretch my hand up palm flat, occasionally it will move up as I reach up to it, but if I just hold my hand still, palm flat and keep holding down on the stick, it will start to land if I'm patient for a couple seconds. Once it starts to land, I can move my hand around to re-orient to pinch the belly by the sides between my thumb and index finger. Even did it with my left hand yesterday as I had the motion 2 in my right hand.
I'm thinking if you already have the drone down to 1.5 meters off the ground, it already has decided where the ground is and just thinks your hand coming into the picture is a confusing obstacle, and is busy thinking about what to do.
So again, I use normal mode, stetch your arm up over your head and hold your palm out flat like a little landing pad a foot or so under the drone, once its decided your hand is an acceptable landing spot, you''ll hear the motors change pitch and it will start to desend to your hand. Once its coming down, I gently grab it by the sides of the belly between my thumb and index fingers, hold the left stick down the whole time till the motors turn off. Just be patient, lol

Link to an excellent video from JJB's post above:
http://vimeo.com/user53985573
  

JJB* Posted at 1-7 08:10
Hi,

Finally good weather to fly, only relative strong wind but blue sky !

Awesome video, thanks! It's exactly what I've said in a few posts here, keep the drone up in the air above you. I see you're approachng from the side and holding your hand more sideways right away, I'm going to try that, I've been kind of approaching from the back with my hand really flat, and then changing my hand to pinch it once it starts to come down, but I like your method better. And as in your vid, the drone will move up a bit thinking my hand is an obstacle if my hand isn't showing enough surface to the sensors to be seen as a landing spot. But if I flatten my hand a bit, and keep holding down on the stick, it will start its landing process and then I just pinch it and the motors turn off by themselves. I'll share the link to your vid!
Link to an excellent video from JJB's post above:
http://vimeo.com/user53985573

Manitobahunter Posted at 1-16 07:28
Awesome video, thanks! It's exactly what I've said in a few posts here, keep the drone up in the air above you. I see you're approachng from the side and holding your hand more sideways right away, I'm going to try that, I've been kind of approaching from the back with my hand really flat, and then changing my hand to pinch it once it starts to come down, but I like your method better. And as in your vid, the drone will move up a bit thinking my hand is an obstacle if my hand isn't showing enough surface to the sensors to be seen as a landing spot. But if I flatten my hand a bit, and keep holding down on the stick, it will start its landing process and then I just pinch it and the motors turn off by themselves. I'll share the link to your vid!
Link to an excellent video from JJB's post above:
http://vimeo.com/user53985573

thanks  

I have this problem too. I havent noticed it before because even with sensors on, it lands smoothly on my palm. Now it wont go down even after pressing the stick down for too long. The only option is to go into sport mode, or grab it without the sensors seeing your hands but this is not ideal. I think it changed after the firmware update that allowed us to disable bottom sensors.

I have this problem too. I havent noticed it before because even with sensors on, it lands smoothly on my palm. Now it wont go down even after pressing the stick down for too long. The only option is to go into sport mode, or grab it without the sensors seeing your hands but this is not ideal. I think it changed after the firmware update that allowed us to disable bottom sensors.

I have this problem too. I havent noticed it before because even with sensors on, it lands smoothly on my palm. Now it wont go down even after pressing the stick down for too long. The only option is to go into sport mode, or grab it without the sensors seeing your hands but this is not ideal. I think it changed after the firmware update that allowed us to disable bottom sensors.

As JJB showed in a screenshot in post #63 the drone will hover for 5 loooong seconds before it descends towards your hand. It previously took only one second. From my experience it doesn‘t matter how you hold your hand, out straight or above your head. Just wait the 5 loooong seconds and your drone will obediently come down. Be patient (as others tried to tell me earlier) and then some

This is not true.

Previously did not took 1 second, it took 4-5 seconds holding the stick down for the drone to start landing towards the hand/palm.

djiuser_zgZSSEwjvIDd Posted at 1-19 03:08
This is not true.

Previously did not took 1 second, it took 4-5 seconds holding the stick down for the drone to start landing towards the hand/palm.

Not with my M4P. Check out the video posted earlier at 1:50. That's NOT 4-5 seconds in my book.