DAFlys Posted at 2-18 03:01
Im surprised it goes down to ISO 50.    But thats good if it does.

It's the lowest setting on the Pro1.
That image I put up on IG looks terrible compared to the original.
JPEGging it was probably a mistake.

Blériot53 Posted at 2-18 03:44
I'll post one on IG. I'd appreciate your observations.
Shot in RAW at ISO 50, f/8 and 0.25 sec exposure.
Converted to JPEG using G.I.M.P. as I'm not sure if IG accepts RAW images.

IG does accept raw,  raw is only good for processing into a jpg as it contains all the data the camera had available so you can pick and choose better what you want to see.

Blériot53 Posted at 2-18 03:44
I'll post one on IG. I'd appreciate your observations.
Shot in RAW at ISO 50, f/8 and 0.25 sec exposure.
Converted to JPEG using G.I.M.P. as I'm not sure if IG accepts RAW images.

Found it,   looks like you captured the motion well,    Id experiement with longer shutter times,   maybe try up to f22 and you'll get a feel for what the camera will do.   Personally Id clone out that little bit of greenery in the bottom left,   but thats me.

Blériot53 Posted at 2-18 03:53
It's the lowest setting on the Pro1.
That image I put up on IG looks terrible compared to the original.
JPEGging it was probably a mistake.

Have you looked at https://www.rawtherapee.com

DAFlys Posted at 2-18 07:31
IG does accept raw,  raw is only good for processing into a jpg as it contains all the data the camera had available so you can pick and choose better what you want to see.

When I tried to upload a RAW file, IG couldn't see it?
Maybe the .CRW extension that Canon use is not one that IG recognises?

DAFlys Posted at 2-18 07:35
Found it,   looks like you captured the motion well,    Id experiement with longer shutter times,   maybe try up to f22 and you'll get a feel for what the camera will do.   Personally Id clone out that little bit of greenery in the bottom left,   but thats me.

f22?  Wow. The Pro1 only goes up to f8 so far as I can see.

DAFlys Posted at 2-18 07:38
Have you looked at https://www.rawtherapee.com

I have now, thanks
It may take me a while to figure it out
I was using darktable with gimp.

DAFlys Posted at 2-18 07:35
Found it,   looks like you captured the motion well,    Id experiement with longer shutter times,   maybe try up to f22 and you'll get a feel for what the camera will do.   Personally Id clone out that little bit of greenery in the bottom left,   but thats me.

How about this?

Blériot53 Posted at 2-18 12:10
How about this?

[view_image]

Now that is much much better.    Nailed it.  

Blériot53 Posted at 2-18 11:02
When I tried to upload a RAW file, IG couldn't see it?
Maybe the .CRW extension that Canon use is not one that IG recognises?

Sorry typo,  that should have said does not accept raw.  

Blériot53 Posted at 2-18 11:03
f22?  Wow. The Pro1 only goes up to f8 so far as I can see.

Really,    Now I am surprised with that,   all my DSLR lens go to F22 and some as high as F30.     Does the Pro 1 have a thread at the end of the lens that you could use a ND filter on?

DAFlys Posted at 2-18 22:59
Now that is much much better.    Nailed it.

These were the settings for the original image.
At your suggestion, I then ran it through RawTherapee (without much understanding of what I was doing) and then cropped it a bit to remove the foreground foliage.

DAFlys Posted at 2-18 23:05
Sorry typo,  that should have said does not accept raw.

Now that makes sense

DAFlys Posted at 2-18 23:06
Really,    Now I am surprised with that,   all my DSLR lens go to F22 and some as high as F30.     Does the Pro 1 have a thread at the end of the lens that you could use a ND filter on?

Yes there's a thread for attachments.   I have the lens hood attached to that.  The Pro1 had a built-in ND filter (upto 3 stops, apparently) which I haven't tried yet.

And here's the Ae range:

Blériot53 Posted at 2-18 23:42
These were the settings for the original image.
At your suggestion, I then ran it through RawTherapee (without much understanding of what I was doing) and then cropped it a bit to remove the foreground foliage.

I think you should try those built in ND filters next and see what they do for you.

Blériot53 Posted at 2-18 23:57
Yes there's a thread for attachments.   I have the lens hood attached to that.  The Pro1 had a built-in ND filter (upto 3 stops, apparently) which I haven't tried yet.

And here's the Ae range:

It's quite an unusual range that,  F2.4 is really good,  but F8 at the other end is a bit lacking,   but then you have the built in ND filters to elevate some of that issue.  

DAFlys Posted at 2-20 01:51
I think you should try those built in ND filters next and see what they do for you.

Lots of experimentation to be done.

DAFlys Posted at 2-20 01:55
It's quite an unusual range that,  F2.4 is really good,  but F8 at the other end is a bit lacking,   but then you have the built in ND filters to elevate some of that issue.

I still have the "L" plates on when I'm using it

Blériot53 Posted at 2-20 05:11
I still have the "L" plates on when I'm using it

hahha,   thats a good one,   You just need to get out and play with it,  and see what works for you.

DAFlys Posted at 2-20 23:42
hahha,   thats a good one,   You just need to get out and play with it,  and see what works for you.

Well, I did.  Rode the bus to the village where there's a nice little waterfall.
Set up the tripod and camera, fiddled about with the settings, took a couple of shots...
and down came the rain

Blériot53 Posted at 2-21 00:08
Well, I did.  Rode the bus to the village where there's a nice little waterfall.
Set up the tripod and camera, fiddled about with the settings, took a couple of shots...
and down came the rain

I think there should be laws against it.

DAFlys Posted at 2-21 00:25
I think there should be laws against it.

Definitely. I was more worried about the camera than me. I was just ready to try out the ND filter setting as well.  Not sure how much it achieved. I needed longer to make comparison shots.

Blériot53 Posted at 2-21 00:35
Definitely. I was more worried about the camera than me. I was just ready to try out the ND filter setting as well.  Not sure how much it achieved. I needed longer to make comparison shots.

[view_image]

Thats still an impressive shot,    the motion is well captured and the whites in the water are good.  

Two thoughts from someone that doesnt know the scene.  

Is there an angle that you could get the bridge or other interest into the top half of the frame,   
Have yuo considered b&w?

DAFlys Posted at 2-21 00:38
Thats still an impressive shot,    the motion is well captured and the whites in the water are good.  

Two thoughts from someone that doesnt know the scene.  

First, here is the un-zoomed shot:



Now a couple of other views - one from above the weir, and one looking the other way from the bridge.
A couple of quick screengrabs from an earlier visit with the Pocket2.
The area is a public viepoint and memorial garden. The river Sett then runs through private gardens and emerges on the other side of the main road, from which point you can't see the falls at all.





And I could certainly try again in B&W another time.

Blériot53 Posted at 2-21 01:02
First, here is the un-zoomed shot:

[view_image]

I see what you mean,  it doesn't appear theres a good way to fill the top of the frame.   

DAFlys Posted at 2-21 01:24
I see what you mean,  it doesn't appear theres a good way to fill the top of the frame.

I took the Mini3Pro there once, but there's just too many obstacles.

Blériot53 Posted at 2-21 01:36
I took the Mini3Pro there once, but there's just too many obstacles.

I thought Id seen it before.  

DAFlys Posted at 2-21 01:51
I thought Id seen it before.

It's a favourite meditation spot of mine.

Blériot53 Posted at 2-21 01:52
It's a favourite meditation spot of mine.

Im sure the sound of the rushing water really helps.  

DAFlys Posted at 2-21 01:57
Im sure the sound of the rushing water really helps.

Yep. And the dabbling ducks come to peck your shoelaces if you don't bring them something.
I generally don't - bread isn't good for them.

Blériot53 Posted at 2-21 02:01
Yep. And the dabbling ducks come to peck your shoelaces if you don't bring them something.
I generally don't - bread isn't good for them.

Cant say Ive ever experienced that.  ducks nibbling that is.  

DAFlys Posted at 2-21 02:07
Cant say Ive ever experienced that.  ducks nibbling that is.

They seem to mistake them for worms, I think

Blériot53 Posted at 2-21 02:16
They seem to mistake them for worms, I think

Id be pretty safe with orange laces then I think.

DAFlys Posted at 2-21 02:26
Id be pretty safe with orange laces then I think.

Not neccessarily:   

https://www.rhs.org.uk/biodiversity/non-native-flatworms

Blériot53 Posted at 2-21 02:30
Not neccessarily:   

https://www.rhs.org.uk/biodiversity/non-native-flatworms

I will sit corrected on that one then.  

DAFlys Posted at 2-21 02:45
I will sit corrected on that one then.

The orange ones were quite common in France.  Great composters.

Blériot53 Posted at 2-21 02:56
The orange ones were quite common in France.  Great composters.

I dont recall seeing anything that exotic here.  

DAFlys Posted at 2-21 03:19
I dont recall seeing anything that exotic here.

The were orange slugs too, with brown spots.  They were great at killing off the usual black slugs which decimated the veg garden.  They kill 'em  by grawing a hole in the back of the head of the black ones.
And they're not a pest on the veg either.

Blériot53 Posted at 2-21 03:26
The were orange slugs too, with brown spots.  They were great at killing off the usual black slugs which decimated the veg garden.  They kill 'em  by grawing a hole in the back of the head of the black ones.
And they're not a pest on the veg either.

Remind me not to move to France.  

DAFlys Posted at 2-21 03:34
Remind me not to move to France.

It had its advantages