Raf_IZ0QWM Posted at 11-24 10:13
On each group you see the same question: waypoints?
See on the Air 2 group, on the Air2s group and now on the Mavic 3

With the price tag that comes with this drone we should get waypoints. I don't care if Dji does not implement it themselves but release the SDK so Litchi can do this. Litchi does waypoints better anyways.

Bring back the Way Points - Then I  WILL Purchasing

hear, hear!

For the record, despite the many downvotes I received, I think Waypoints should be absolutely available as an option. IMO, more is almost always better. So for you Waypoints geeks, I am officially with you ;-)

@Dji Paladin, @Dji Stephan, @Dji Susan - we have so many votes and 3 pages of comments and almost everyone here is asking for the same things. Can you at least come onto the post and not ignore your customer. Don't be like other cooperage business that once your items have been sold you do not listen to customers. We need our features more than anything else and the possibility of waypoints or the release of the SDK maybe after the big firmware update will get you more Mavic 3 customers.

Just to let you guys know I had a PM from a mod and they will take the feedback from what was said and requested on here and keep us posted.

WE NEED WAYPOINTS IN THE M3 !!!!!!!!!! Absolutely. I even prefer if the SDK are released and leave Litchi, Dronelink and Drone Deploy work with it.

hallmark007 Posted at 11-14 14:24
I’m not sure if you already have M3 or not. Start at 15

15/ you will on Pro remote be able to control shutter speed as you could on SC “Not Sure About Aperture

Sir, in Europe the most television standard still the PAL

Oulala Posted at 12-8 18:44
Sir, in Europe the most television standard still the PAL

You make very little sense with that answer, try explaining what it is your talking about.

hallmark007 Posted at 12-8 21:30
You make very little sense with that answer, try explaining what it is your talking about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL_region

Oulala Posted at 12-9 05:42
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAL_region

I haven’t mentioned anything about Pal, so what are you trying to point to. It maybe a translation thing I’m not sure.

hallmark007 Posted at 12-9 05:54
I haven’t mentioned anything about Pal, so what are you trying to point to. It maybe a translation thing I’m not sure.

Probably calling you out on 24p being best for Europe, but he's conflating 1080p50 with PAL, which is now defunct, being the obsolete 576i50 analog TV format that the DVB-T(2) 1080p50 is based on.

Ironically list of PAL countries on Wikipedia doesn't include France. Probably because they actually used a variant called SECAM, which encoded the colour slightly differently. But they also switched to DVB-T in 2011.

25 or 50 fps are still the most useful frame rates in the UK, due to our AC power supply being 50Hz and the associated flicker that it creates. Plus if you want to target broadcast in the UK/EU you're better served shooting 25 or 50 fps. Of course you can generally speed up 24 or 48fps footage and usually get away with it, especially because there is no sound captured.

Nicodema Posted at 12-9 06:08
Probably calling you out on 24p being best for Europe, but he's conflating 1080p50 with PAL, which is now defunct, being the obsolete 576i50 analog TV format that the DVB-T(2) 1080p50 is based on.

Ironically list of PAL countries on Wikipedia doesn't include France. Probably because they actually used a variant called SECAM, which encoded the colour slightly differently. But they also switched to DVB-T in 2011.

I realize now got that back to front, didn’t know which post he was talking about. I do know 24/30 best for US and 25 for Europe .

No worries. Hopefully Oulala is happy

Still waiting for Way Points so I can Purchase the DJI Mavic 3 Cine Premium Combo

Add WAYPOINTS SDK Please !!!!!!!!

Does anyone know if DJI has answered anything about waypoints?
I have stopped my purchase and am waiting. Might be better to buy another drone... NOT DJI ...

Cyprus Coast Posted at 1-18 11:47
Does anyone know if DJI has answered anything about waypoints?
I have stopped my purchase and am waiting. Might be better to buy another drone... NOT DJI ...

I doubt we will be seeing waypoints on the Mavic 3 but i read the below on another forum which is interesting so it might just be possible.

NGC Posted at 1-18 18:05
Waypoints will be possible when the SDK is released which will be at the end of 2022.

That much is expected. It will be done by 3rd party devs.

NGC Posted at 1-18 18:05
Waypoints will be possible when the SDK is released which will be at the end of 2022.

Yes, but probably only software waypoints, not hardware...
Software WP is based only on GPS locations...this is why is dangerous, as if you have a GPS drop, it goes to Fly Away....
Hardware WP are based on 2 systems implemented hardware, one microprocessor is providing data and another is responsible with flight parameters...together can prevent fly away as is a redundant system.
So must be very careful with Soft WP...keep it under VLOS and act instantly if you see it fly in other directions.

NGC Posted at 1-19 06:00
I guess you can always use Litchi once the SDK is released.

Yes, but Litchi is Soft Waypoints related app based on GPS...This is why any happens with your drone is not covered, also the errors at fly path can be big as depends on GPS without HW redundant check...
As far as I know, the most "cheap/small drone" is Evo 2 series that have hardware onboard for missions/mapping/Waypoints but is not capable to make "fluent waypoints= rounds" as is Python based and no one will reprogram it...Phantom is too big for my taste...Evo 2 Enterprise also, we have for mapping some oil ducts now for a petroleum company, RTK based, but are expensive as hell, if you don't have contracts that demands them, stay away as will not produce enough money to cover the expenses to buy it...
So...at the end is a choice for everyone...Cheap with software = with risk of fly away and minimal choices, expensive HW = with diminished risk as there are 2 hardware units onboard but with a lot of options (if I am in a Mapping mission, Evo2 will return to base, change the battery and resume by itself from the point remaining...).

Thanks guys for the info and advice. We need to rethink this now! Especially info about the end 2022 !

Geo_Drone Posted at 1-19 02:34
Yes, but probably only software waypoints, not hardware...
Software WP is based only on GPS locations...this is why is dangerous, as if you have a GPS drop, it goes to Fly Away....
Hardware WP are based on 2 systems implemented hardware, one microprocessor is providing data and another is responsible with flight parameters...together can prevent fly away as is a redundant system.

I have always used Litchi since the Mavic 1 days for waypoints and never had an issue as many on here. You are right though, if a full GPS drop does occur than the drone will not be able to return to the homepoint but that can happen even when not using waypoints mission. There is a risk as soon as we take off and start hovering our drone as the drone uses AI telemetry and sats and we all know too well that anything can fail at any time. Nothing is made perfect.

GaryDoug Posted at 2021-11-12 20:23
Maybe someone can clearly explain why they use waypoints. I can't see how that would be of use, but am very willing to learn. I have used wayponts on my boat's Nav unit but that is for regular navigated courses and points. I can see that being useful for fishermen but not much otherwise.

Hi Doug, I fly multiple construction sites on a weekly basis for a developer. Flying the very same route weekly over the duration of the builds is very useful and critical to these missions. No Waypoints means I have no use for the Mavic 3 and will keep my Mavic 2 Pro workhorse. And I’d love to be able to shoot 4K in 60fps to slow down different points in these weekly routes in post. Without being able to effectively store predetermined routes using the Mavic 3, ie. Waypoints 2.0, I’ll just keep on using 2.7 at 60fps with my Mavic 2 Pro when needed and keep my hard earned $3,000. And quite frankly, given how DJI rolled out the new Mavic 3, they’ve compelled me even more to explore another drone manufacturer for good.

High Altitude Posted at 1-30 05:02
Hi Doug, I fly multiple construction sites on a weekly basis for a developer. Flying the very same route weekly over the duration of the builds is very useful and critical to these missions. No Waypoints means I have no use for the Mavic 3 and will keep my Mavic 2 Pro workhorse. And I’d love to be able to shoot 4K in 60fps to slow down different points in these weekly routes in post. Without being able to effectively store predetermined routes using the Mavic 3, ie. Waypoints 2.0, I’ll just keep on using 2.7 at 60fps with my Mavic 2 Pro when needed and keep my hard earned $3,000. And quite frankly, given how DJI rolled out the new Mavic 3, they’ve compelled me even more to explore another drone manufacturer for good.

Well waiting is probably best for you. It has been mentioned that waypoints will come for M3. But if you look back you might realize that it took 7 months for WP to come to M2. So there’s still hope I think this drone would be great with WP.

High Altitude Posted at 1-30 05:02
Hi Doug, I fly multiple construction sites on a weekly basis for a developer. Flying the very same route weekly over the duration of the builds is very useful and critical to these missions. No Waypoints means I have no use for the Mavic 3 and will keep my Mavic 2 Pro workhorse. And I’d love to be able to shoot 4K in 60fps to slow down different points in these weekly routes in post. Without being able to effectively store predetermined routes using the Mavic 3, ie. Waypoints 2.0, I’ll just keep on using 2.7 at 60fps with my Mavic 2 Pro when needed and keep my hard earned $3,000. And quite frankly, given how DJI rolled out the new Mavic 3, they’ve compelled me even more to explore another drone manufacturer for good.

For this we also have Evo 2 Enterprise and Evo 2 Pro...
Also for mapping as is very easy to work in mapping with Pix4D and this drones.
If DJI decides to introduce Waypoints on M3, will be good, in order to compensate other minuses at M3 drone.
Any serious paid works requires many time Waypoints/Missions...

Come on DJI release the waypoint feature, I need the better video from this drone in litchi... air 2s is now working it uses fly app im sure the m3 has to be soon right?

I will be returning my Mavic 3 if they dont add add waypoints.. or commit to it

hallmark007 Posted at 2021-11-12 01:53
Dji waypoints were are very disappointing cumbersome. So i really hope they can offer up SDK that company like litchi can create a proper waypoint program.

My m2 pro waypoints missions holds up great.  If I set poi and stuff like that, it is super smooth.  Really wish m3 had that.  

djiuser_EEXtim8SFbZ6 Posted at 3-14 17:46
My m2 pro waypoints missions holds up great.  If I set poi and stuff like that, it is super smooth.  Really wish m3 had that.

I’m sure it works fine, but its so far behind programs like litchi which costs only $20 why would anyone use anything else.

hallmark007 Posted at 3-15 10:06
I’m sure it works fine, but its so far behind programs like litchi which costs only $20 why would anyone use anything else.

i think waypoints on my m2z is tops.  and i think i would like litchi too and now that it works with most drones, it might be time to select the platform and pull the trigger.  my only question left is when the drone disconnects from the controller, is there an option to continue the mission and finish regardless?

The Saint Posted at 3-22 15:15
i think waypoints on my m2z is tops.  and i think i would like litchi too and now that it works with most drones, it might be time to select the platform and pull the trigger.  my only question left is when the drone disconnects from the controller, is there an option to continue the mission and finish regardless?

For zoom yes it will continue flight or return. I haven’t used litchi with any of the new minis or airs .

AerialZup2 Posted at 3-22 18:23
Won’t continue the mission with any newer DJI drones.

Anything that doesn't have built in waypoints in the drone will stop. Mavic Mini works great with Litchi as long as you have controller connection with the drone. Even if they have to use virtual sticks with Litchi and Mavic 3 should be a pleasant experience as controller drone connection is so strong (compared to Mini at least)

AerialZup2 Posted at 3-22 18:38
I don’t think the P4P had built in waypoints. And you could send it and it would complete the Litchi mission.

I didn't know that, I thought back in the day all those drones had waypoints. I wonder how they managed that?

Bussty Posted at 3-22 18:46
I didn't know that, I thought back in the day all those drones had waypoints. I wonder how they managed that?

... the separation into "consumer" and "professional" drones may have only become really obvious with the M3, right?

Bussty Posted at 3-22 18:29
Anything that doesn't have built in waypoints in the drone will stop. Mavic Mini works great with Litchi as long as you have controller connection with the drone. Even if they have to use virtual sticks with Litchi and Mavic 3 should be a pleasant experience as controller drone connection is so strong (compared to Mini at least)

Phantom 4 didn’t have waypoints, so when you set your litchi program and started up the drone, on the litchi app, you opened the mission you wanted to fly. This was then baked into the aircraft similar to how your RTH settings are baked into the aircraft. So you had a choice in litchi to rth on lost signal or complete the mission. But if something went wrong your warranty was void. Dji also shortly after changed RTH to smart RTH where the craft would judge how much battery was left and auto RTH. At first for many months  you couldn’t turn this off so this had a big affect on litchi missions.

I dont think there are too many problems now being able to complete litchi missions, you have much better range and signal and you are more likely to encounter low battery than lost signal. So litchi is a really good option particularly because missions can be planned at home on maps without the drone being turned on. P4P did not have waypoints, P4 PV might have Im not sure but the drone didn’t need a waypoints program to use Litchi.