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dronist Posted at 2017-6-22 13:30
I hear you mate but the issue again is they have all the existing technologies at their finger tip and it is NOT like they were reinventing the P4 to fit in the MAVIC, with the SPARK. They already did that.

BTW, and for the record, I never had any problems with my MAVIC ,P4,P4P,P4P+.

I'm waiting to see fixes, and also to see what people can create first.
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I am the E Posted at 2017-6-21 20:51
If you think gesture mode worth $700.00 then  

If it was a TINY MAVIC like features then yes it is worth $700.00 otherwise it is only a TOY GRADE drone.

Not sure how yuo think the Spark cannot take good photos, the JPG files are as good as the Mavic.
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I am the E Posted at 2017-6-21 20:51
If you think gesture mode worth $700.00 then  

If it was a TINY MAVIC like features then yes it is worth $700.00 otherwise it is only a TOY GRADE drone.

Think you might be having problems with yours, doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. I think Mavic is almost famous for its watery blurry out of focus annoying tap focus etc etc.
So this is starting to sound like a tradesman blaming his tools.
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Sploodge Posted at 2017-6-22 13:46
Not sure how yuo think the Spark cannot take good photos, the JPG files are as good as the Mavic.

Did you read the specs on both camera before you jumped in? If you are fine with yours then good for you.

This is my takes.
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hallmark007 Posted at 2017-6-22 14:00
Think you might be having problems with yours, doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. I think Mavic is almost famous for its watery blurry out of focus annoying tap focus etc etc.
So this is starting to sound like a tradesman blaming his tools.

This is what I experienced. Filming and moving around 360 in slow motion it took almost 30 seconds for the light adjustments to catch up to the screen. It is unusable, Scrolling up and down with the Gimbal you get the same thing. It takes kind of forever for the light to adjust.

Let's hope it is a FW issue but the lag is killing the momentum!



















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hallmark007 Posted at 2017-6-22 13:35
I'm waiting to see fixes, and also to see what people can create first.

You did not tell us how your is working?
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I am the E Posted at 2017-6-22 14:51
You did not tell us how your is working?

Ok first day had problem with controller, so calibrated , second day flew it 500meters had full signal but brought it home , it flys great it is super responsive and breaking is better than my other drones but this might be because of its size.
I had no wifi problems except connection to RC and phone no transmission problems the feed was spot on.
I took some photos of nothing really and quality was very good everything in focus and gimbal very steady, I shot some video and again it's very sharp even a little to much but I think with filter it could do a nice job, but best of all is you can download video and photo straight to dji editor directly from sd card with drone turned on there are some cool editing on dji editor and with full resolution you recorded in it looks great.

Quick shot first day managed to work fine raised up to 60 meters, second day was flat , have tried Jedi it works but don't know what I will use that for, definitely quick shot needs refining and initial connection is a nuisance so hopefully they will allow cable connection just to quicken the set up.

But overall I am happy I need to work on something's and with help of some improvements in firmware I think it will be ok.
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hallmark007 Posted at 2017-6-22 15:20
Ok first day had problem with controller, so calibrated , second day flew it 500meters had full signal but brought it home , it flys great it is super responsive and breaking is better than my other drones but this might be because of its size.
I had no wifi problems except connection to RC and phone no transmission problems the feed was spot on.
I took some photos of nothing really and quality was very good everything in focus and gimbal very steady, I shot some video and again it's very sharp even a little to much but I think with filter it could do a nice job, but best of all is you can download video and photo straight to dji editor directly from sd card with drone turned on there are some cool editing on dji editor and with full resolution you recorded in it looks great.

How was your video transition during the video shooting from sun to darker areas in manual and in AF?
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I am the E Posted at 2017-6-22 15:24
How was your video transition during the video shooting from sun to darker areas in manual and in AF?

I only shoot in manual no matter what , when I shoot photos/video I always look to see where the sun is landing its light because that's where the best light is, but for that I also think filter will help, I get what your saying about the change of light and that's a limit of the lens, and will take a bit of trial and error to work this out, it's not something that will bother me , I will shoot some video and see how it works out when editing. But for something I would like to turn out really good I will always use my phantom.
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dronist Posted at 2017-6-22 13:30
I hear you mate but the issue again is they have all the existing technologies at their finger tip and it is NOT like they were reinventing the P4 to fit in the MAVIC, with the SPARK. They already did that.

BTW, and for the record, I never had any problems with my MAVIC ,P4,P4P,P4P+.

They need to leave something wanting. Something to make people like me decide to upgrade to a mavic2 or better.. if they put the whole lot in the spark, why would I want to? Also, it would probably price it out of range for half the buyers...

Take your car, Mercedes put all the really cool toys in the S class, most of them make it to the E class, less of them in the c, and so on until you get to the A class that has a $69 kindle fire in there;)

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PimpDawg Posted at 2017-6-22 06:29
$1000 on a night out? I want to hang out with you!

Most of its my wife in the casino, she has a little problem with betting my wages
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I am the E Posted at 2017-6-22 08:20
If you read my posts and saw my avatar you know I already have all their drones and that is why am giving it an F  with double  minus.

$1000.00 in ROMANIA???  You are funny!

Hello  I am the E ?

I dont see drones in your picture and I thought someone called Dronist was posting giving it the F.

You've confused an old man - but my son is standing behind me shouting "that **** has multiple accounts and he's just messed up posting on the wrong one"

I still say it's good value and a great toy to whoever you are....

Romania ???

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dronist Posted at 2017-6-22 08:36
I have all their drones and no amount of time will change what this toy can and can't do...

I replyed to your other 'I am E' post. This topic is making my head spin...

Time heals everything and youll grow to love it, it may be the runt of the DJI family but once you learn its a great addition.
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This kind of argues will be endless forever. It sounds like we are watch "Transformers" in the cinema, suddenly a few guys come in and shout :  You are wasting your money ! don't watch this kind of garbage movie. You should watch "The Sound of Music" !!!!......
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DwoneFlyer Posted at 2017-6-23 00:27
Hello  I am the E ?

I dont see drones in your picture and I thought someone called Dronist was posting giving it the F.

Right under persons avatar you will see icons on the left hand side, those icons are people's aircraft.
Just under personal message
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dronist Posted at 2017-6-22 11:58
Wowww, man you've seen a MAVIC. Are you sure???   

and not only that YOU actually used one  ...

well first of all this is getting kind of childish. i just think some people should try and see it from other peoples perspective. clearly you have an awesome collection of dji drones, as you bragged about in a few of your recent posts, and you probably use them for filming or advertising videos which the spark is clearly not built for.

Have i designed fortune 500 companies? the answer is obviously no but i just assumed that this information about advertising and marketing that i mentioned was common sense but i'm starting to reconsider that assumption, maybe ill even start building a few companies since i'm such an expert.

the reason i mentioned about using the mavic is because you said this, "All these newbies think wowwww because they did not see and used the MAVIC or P4.", so it wasn't me bragging it was me telling you that either your wrong or should choose your words carefully when you don't know all the facts. kind of like if i said, "this guy thinks he knows everything, hes so spoiled, his rich parent or guardian(political correct) buys him a Brand new Mercedes and every new dji product he wants, when he don't get his way(say...if the dji spark wasn't what he hoped for) he throws a tantrum."

at this point im just replying for forum points, wouldn't be worth my time if not for that.
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hallmark007 Posted at 2017-6-23 01:04
Right under persons avatar you will see icons on the left hand side, those icons are people's aircraft.
Just under personal message

Hello hallmark007, I see but he mentioned his avatar and I never made any claims about what drones he owns, it was the other guy I was replying to. Why is he replying to my reply to dronist?

why are you replying to my reply to i am the e's reply to my reply to dronist post? {:4_177:}

the more I look around here the stranger it gets, bizarre

spark is still way cool if you know how to use it
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Doobry Posted at 2017-6-22 23:35
They need to leave something wanting. Something to make people like me decide to upgrade to a mavic2 or better.. if they put the whole lot in the spark, why would I want to? Also, it would probably price it out of range for half the buyers...

Take your car, Mercedes put all the really cool toys in the S class, most of them make it to the E class, less of them in the c, and so on until you get to the A class that has a $69 kindle fire in there;)

I hear you.  
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rickysuperdog Posted at 2017-6-23 00:40
This kind of argues will be endless forever. It sounds like we are watch "Transformers" in the cinema, suddenly a few guys come in and shout :  You are wasting your money ! don't watch this kind of garbage movie. You should watch "The Sound of Music" !!!!......

Again this was my take, my review. If you like it then go play with your toy instead of blah, blah, blah.
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hallmark007 Posted at 2017-6-23 01:04
Right under persons avatar you will see icons on the left hand side, those icons are people's aircraft.
Just under personal message

Hall,

Hse will learn the rope soon enough. He is even wondering why someone else respond to some one else post...

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Thor1 Posted at 2017-6-23 04:22
well first of all this is getting kind of childish. i just think some people should try and see it from other peoples perspective. clearly you have an awesome collection of dji drones, as you bragged about in a few of your recent posts, and you probably use them for filming or advertising videos which the spark is clearly not built for.

Have i designed fortune 500 companies? the answer is obviously no but i just assumed that this information about advertising and marketing that i mentioned was common sense but i'm starting to reconsider that assumption, maybe ill even start building a few companies since i'm such an expert.

Since it is not worth your time then why write a paper about it.

Again this was my take and review, You like your then go fly your Sparky instead of blah, blah, blah!
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DwoneFlyer Posted at 2017-6-23 11:17
Hello hallmark007, I see but he mentioned his avatar and I never made any claims about what drones he owns, it was the other guy I was replying to. Why is he replying to my reply to dronist?

why are you replying to my reply to i am the e's reply to my reply to dronist post?

Can you believe this Hallmark? He has the audacity to reply to your reply... Man he has the nerve?   

Hey dude, if you don't know by now...This is called a forum get it

A F O R U M,  am spelling slowly for you...

In a forum anyone can reply to anyone or anyone can reply to more than one person's post or posts or more than one person can reply to any numbers of other person's posts... get it  {:4_177:}

So since you know how to use it go fly it and show us some of your WOW videos.



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Thank you to the people who messaged me explaining the dronist / i am e situation. Makes sense now and I have better things to do than hang around with angry little boys with a chip on their shoulder.

It's been a brief and non productive dive into the DJI forums - but Over and Out
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DwoneFlyer Posted at 2017-6-23 11:17
Hello hallmark007, I see but he mentioned his avatar and I never made any claims about what drones he owns, it was the other guy I was replying to. Why is he replying to my reply to dronist?

why are you replying to my reply to i am the e's reply to my reply to dronist post?

Was trying to give you a heads up, I knew it was E you were referring to.

How are you getting on with your Spark?
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DwoneFlyer Posted at 2017-6-23 00:27
Hello  I am the E ?

I dont see drones in your picture and I thought someone called Dronist was posting giving it the F.

Romania???

When you use anonymous IP it shows different country origin. Like you were posting under ROMANIA and claiming spending $1000 a night.

Like I said, since you like your toy better then the MAVIC,   

then go fly little

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DwoneFlyer Posted at 2017-6-25 00:46
Thank you to the people who messaged me explaining the dronist / i am e situation. Makes sense now and I have better things to do than hang around with angry little boys with a chip on their shoulder.

It's been a brief and non productive dive into the DJI forums - but Over and Out

Are we giving failed election speech   

To ALL THE PEOPLE... yeah hundred of people!  

Maybe you should say hello to Matt & Reiley for me

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DwoneFlyer Posted at 2017-6-23 00:18
Most of its my wife in the casino, she has a little problem with betting my wages

Now you blame your wife betting YOUR WAGES???

A hard working man! how many wages do you have???

You spend $1000.00 on a night out why did not buy couple of Inspire 2 or a couple of  Heli?
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DwoneFlyer Posted at 2017-6-23 00:27
Hello  I am the E ?

I dont see drones in your picture and I thought someone called Dronist was posting giving it the F.

Maybe you need some reading glasses or maybe your smart SON can point it out to you or when your wife is NOT betting ALL YOUR WAGES would help you see all the drones...
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DwoneFlyer Posted at 2017-6-23 00:27
Hello  I am the E ?

I dont see drones in your picture and I thought someone called Dronist was posting giving it the F.

Look at your post #7  what does it say?

Maybe you should ask your SO SMART SON  to help you figure it out.
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hallmark007 Posted at 2017-6-25 01:17
Was trying to give you a heads up, I knew it was E you were referring to.

How are you getting on with your Spark?

Hall,

No matter what heads you give him he is not going to get it!

Back to Spark. Let us know how your videos will look like!



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dronist Posted at 2017-6-24 21:41
Since it is not worth your time then why write a paper about it.

Again this was my take and review, You like your then go fly your Sparky instead of blah, blah, blah!

Well as I said I want forum points
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Thor1 Posted at 2017-6-25 13:24
Well as I said I want forum points

So just keep it between 10 and 11 characters but don't forget that they also review your points before they match them to $$$. You need to help not just write.
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Thor1 Posted at 2017-6-22 02:54
it sounds like you have a lemon!! mine works fantastic!

Does yours still work fantastic???
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Hey! If the lag is a problem, try connecting your phone to the remote with an OTG cable! I personally haven't had any issues, but a direct connection could possibly help!
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Hey! If the lag is a problem, try connecting your phone to the remote with an OTG cable! I personally haven't had any issues, but a direct connection could possibly help! Good luck!
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andym91 Posted at 2017-6-25 16:24
Hey! If the lag is a problem, try connecting your phone to the remote with an OTG cable! I personally haven't had any issues, but a direct connection could possibly help! Good luck!

Thx Andy,

I flew it with the cable and without it and no difference. Now waiting on new FW.
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dronist Posted at 2017-6-22 11:58
Wowww, man you've seen a MAVIC. Are you sure???   

and not only that YOU actually used one  ...

Sorry dude, I hear your point, but others might not over the amount of emoji's you're using haha. Let's use our words to better articulate ourselves. Although Thor1 does have a point. This product is not at all geared towards filmmakers or photography professionals. That's very easy to see in the way the advertised the Spark. Just look at the demographic they have featured in the ads. No filmmakers there. Just your average teenager, rock climber, and family making use of a very SIMPLE, elementary, product. If you want all the bells and whistles then obviously many and maybe even yourself would advise others to get a Mavic or a P4 or up. I don't see any progress in talking down on other who bought the Spark as opposed to simply expressing your feedback directly to DJI (although, I guess since this is a DJI forum you're kind of already doing that haha).

But yeah, let's ease up on talking down to others and try our best to realize that not every DJI product is for everyone! I'm sure there are a lot of Inspire and Matrice owners who are laughing at our Mavics and Phantom drones!
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dronist Posted at 2017-6-25 16:44
Thx Andy,

I flew it with the cable and without it and no difference. Now waiting on new FW.

Womp, waiting game it is.
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andym91 Posted at 2017-6-25 16:44
Sorry dude, I hear your point, but others might not over the amount of emoji's you're using haha. Let's use our words to better articulate ourselves. Although Thor1 does have a point. This product is not at all geared towards filmmakers or photography professionals. That's very easy to see in the way the advertised the Spark. Just look at the demographic they have featured in the ads. No filmmakers there. Just your average teenager, rock climber, and family making use of a very SIMPLE, elementary, product. If you want all the bells and whistles then obviously many and maybe even yourself would advise others to get a Mavic or a P4 or up. I don't see any progress in talking down on other who bought the Spark as opposed to simply expressing your feedback directly to DJI (although, I guess since this is a DJI forum you're kind of already doing that haha).

But yeah, let's ease up on talking down to others and try our best to realize that not every DJI product is for everyone! I'm sure there are a lot of Inspire and Matrice owners who are laughing at our Mavics and Phantom drones!

Not talking down but I put my 2 cents and some they came back without comprehending what I meant  and started with their... When people knock they  are going to hear an answer.

If you check my posts. I never had any problems with any of my drones and I always gave credit where credit is due to DJI.

Again, this was my review and my opinion. if people don't like it that is fine. This is a free country. I know what I ordered and what I paid for but people kept assuming and blahbing without any ideas about what I meant.

all this without any Emo! lol

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I have friends who spend US$10,000 on cameras for (still) pictures.  I just use my phone.The pictures I want to take are 'snapshots' of family, vacations, etc -- so my phone is fine for me. So for me, the Spark seems great. Small, easy to use, not too expensive, good pictures and video.

Those who who want more can buy more.
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