Hello,

It is probably a stupid question, but I'm really new to this. So hopefully you'll understand my situation.

Is it possible to use the app without a range extender? The features of my Vision+, as shown on the website, suggest that's possible. But when I want to connect the drone to the app using the manual, it says you have to use the range extender.

What am I doing wrong? Is it possible to use a GoPro Hero for wifi? I really want to use the app, because it has some awesome features.

Thanks in advance.

Hoeksteen

If you have a vision + then why don't you want to connect to the range extender ?
If you don't have a vision + then you cant use the vision app.
I am confused What Phantom model and camera do you own ?

Maybe it's my fault, but i have a Phantom Vision without a range extender. The camera I use is a GoPro Hero 3.

Is it possible I don't have a plus edition? It's not my drone, but the guy that lent it to me said it was a plus edition.

wesselvanerp@ho Posted at 2015-3-23 19:07
Maybe it's my fault, but i have a Phantom Vision without a range extender. The camera I use is a GoP ...

What is the model number on the bottom of the transmitter and the Phantom?

Gerry1124 Posted at 2015-3-23 19:15
What is the model number on the bottom of the transmitter and the Phantom?

I'm sorry, but I'm not at home right now and I won't be until next Saturday or Sunday. So I can't answer it right now.

johnwarr@live.c Posted at 2015-3-23 18:18
If you have a vision + then why don't you want to connect to the range extender ?
If you don't have  ...

Both vision + and vision works with app. !

You need the extender in order to gain app access since the extender and Phantom need to be bound to  enable the communication something you cannot do if you directly connect to the hidden network coming from the Phantom/Camera.

BWJ Posted at 2015-3-23 23:46
Both vision + and vision works with app. !

Yeah I know, the OP said he had the Vision +

Don't ever use the go pro WiFi. It can interfere with the transmitter and cause a fly away.

johnwarr@live.c Posted at 2015-3-24 00:09
Yeah I know, the OP said he had the Vision +

The OP has multiple contradictions in his posts.  OP states Vision +, second post of the OP says Vision with GoPro 3.
So in the end it's anyone's guess until more clarification is available.

PanamonCreel Posted at 2015-3-24 00:55
The OP has multiple contradictions in his posts.  OP states Vision +, second post of the OP says V ...

I'm sorry! I'm really new to this, so hopefully you understand my situation.

PanamonCreel Posted at 2015-3-23 23:59
You need the extender in order to gain app access since the extender and Phantom need to be bound to ...

So.. This seems that I can't use the app because I don't have a range extender? Is that true?

Yes, the Vision app connects to the range extender on the Vision or Vision + transmitter only.

wesselvanerp@ho Posted at 2015-3-24 02:19
So.. This seems that I can't use the app because I don't have a range extender? Is that true?

If it is a vision or vision +  then yes you need the extender.
If it is a Phantom 2 non vision with Gopro then you won't be able to use the DJI vision app

wesselvanerp@ho Posted at 2015-3-24 02:19
So.. This seems that I can't use the app because I don't have a range extender? Is that true?

Maybe to help those trying to help you, please see this thread,
It really helps cut down on speculation...
http://forum.dji.com/forum.php?m ... =Please&lang=en

I may be missunderstanding as well but here is a link on how to use a router as a range extender for your P2 vision.

Like others have said, the info privided is a little off

Wes,
Maybe best you post the exact model you have and even better with pictures or something as has been asked!

Ok. I will post them this sunday. Is that ok by you?

Anyway thank you all for helping me!

You can connect your phone directly to the phantom.  The trick is to set your ip correctly.

1) First the camera network ssid is not broadcast so you'll need to figure out its name.  The dji app show the camera ssid.
2) The phantom scans its network every 30sec and pings 192.168.1.2 (extender)  if its not there it resets.
3) Configure your phone to connect to the hidden camera ssid, configure its ip as 192.168.1.2 and you can fly without the extender.

Its worth setting up your phone to connect to the phantom.  If you ever lose your phantom its easier to try find a connection with a phone (if you are close) because you don't have to be pointing directly at it.
I got about 600ft range with my phone.

have tried many times to connect directly to camera and the app fails to bind, I used the name as shown in the binding section but my phone wifi refuses to connect to it, even setting a manual ip resulted in failure

Hey guys. I have some pictures from my model:





I just need to know:
Is it possible to use the app without having a range extender. If yes, how?

The P330Z is a basic Phantom 2.
Not the Vision version so NO you can not use the Vision app.

For reference my V+ is a PV331 Version 2

johnwarr@live.c Posted at 2015-3-29 16:59
The P330Z is a basic Phantom 2.
Not the Vision version so NO you can not use the Vision app.

Ok, thank you! And when i buy a range extender, will i be able to use the app then?

No you will not be able to use the Vision app with the basic Phantom 2.
The range extender connects to the Wi-Fi unit either inside the Phantom (V+) or contained inside the camera housing (V), you do not have this so buying the range extender to fit on the transmitter will do nothing...

And to answer your next question, NO the vision app ONLY works with the VISION range of Phantoms...

johnwarr@live.c Posted at 2015-3-30 19:35
No you will not be able to use the Vision app with the basic Phantom 2.
The range extender connects  ...

Ok thank you! That's everything I wanted to know.

I just acquired a Phantom 2 Vision from an Amateur Radio friend who said that when he tried flying it, it almost flew away from him (see below); it's got the Range Extender, and the camera seems to work for both pictures and videos from the SD card, but the app (DJI Vision) doesn't seem to be connecting and I can't see anything on the app from the camera.  I have the camera set to "WiFi On".  The app also won't allow me to set the RTH altitude and the binding fails when I try to do that.
Does the iPhone need to be connected to the Range Extender via cable, or is there something I'm missing?

It seems to fly well; I only took it up about 10' agl and hovered and maneuvered a little - pretty windy that day, so I didn't go up very far, and it was just a 'test' flight anyhow (I don't have a lot of flight experience, but I do have more than my friend does - I used to have a P3S, a Mavic Pro and a Hubsan Zino 1 [H117T]; I'm guessing he didn't have it in GPS mode, but ATTI mode, which is possibly why he had a hard[er] time controlling it).

First ask yourself if you are sure you want to go to all the trouble and expense of getting the flight app to work correctly on such an old drone.  You also have the RID problem coming up.  You can fly without the flight app.  You can record video by manually pushing the button on the camera.  

It's a wifi connection between the mobIle device and the range extender, not a cable connection.

You can change the RTH altitude with the DJI PHantom 2 Vision Assistant software which would be installed on your PC.  Connect the Phantom to your PC with a usb cable.  Turn on the battery in the Phantom.  Start up the program.  This will enable you to change the RTH height, calibrate the IMU, and do other fun stuff.  

Re the flight app, I don't think a modern iPhone will work correctly with such an old system.  You likely need an old mobile device to play nicely with the old system.  An Nvidia Shield K1 will work well.  They don't make them anymore, but you can still find them used on eBay.  But you likely have other problems with that old drone such as the wifi module not working correctly.  You likely need to flash the NAND chip inside the wifi module.  

But first, get a mobile device that you know will work correctly.  Then bind the camera.  Then see if you have FPV, which you probably won't due to the NAND needing to be flashed.  

Good luck

Mark The Droner Posted at 9-13 02:34
First ask yourself if you are sure you want to go to all the trouble and expense of getting the flight app to work correctly on such an old drone.  You also have the RID problem coming up.  You can fly without the flight app.  You can record video by manually pushing the button on the camera.  

It's a wifi connection between the mobIle device and the range extender, not a cable connection.

The controller doesn't have a "holder" (for lack of the correct term) for a tablet, just for a phone.  Any other phone suggestions that might work?

What's the best way to flash the NAND logic gate?  I've already connected the drone to my computer and used the DJI Phantom 2 Vision Assistant to set the RTH height (I normally use ~80' agl), and calibrate the IMU and the sticks and switches, as well as did an upgrade on the Range Extender (it 'claimed' it was "successful").

AeroMechAZ Posted at 9-13 06:02
The controller doesn't have a "holder" (for lack of the correct term) for a tablet, just for a phone.  Any other phone suggestions that might work?

What's the best way to flash the NAND logic gate?  I've already connected the drone to my computer and used the DJI Phantom 2 Vision Assistant to set the RTH height (I normally use ~80' agl), and calibrate the IMU and the sticks and switches, as well as did an upgrade on the Range Extender (it 'claimed' it was "successful").

You need to buy an aftermarket tablet holder.  

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html? ... controller&_sacat=0

Here is a NAND flashing tutorial for the FC200:



Note that the RID problem has been pushed to March 16, 2024.  FAA Extends Remote ID Enforcement Date Six Months | Federal Aviation Administration

Good luck

Mark The Droner Posted at 9-14 02:35
You need to buy an aftermarket tablet holder.  

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html? ... controller&_sacat=0

Yeah, I think the FAA's going to go the way of the FCC (at some point) when they (FCC) did away with CB licensing.  Obviously isn't going to happen right away, but I do think it's going to happen.  Same with the current FCC imposing a $35 licensing fee for Amateur Radio licenses (new, renewal or Vanity call signs only - upgrades are still free).

Thanks for that video, BTW, very informative and I've been in contact with Justin via email about where I can get the TTL module, etc, and have installed his program on my other laptop (the one I intend to use for the camera repair when I finally get the funds for it.  I did find my (very) old iPhone 5c, running iOS 10.3.3, so that's well before v12.0 that Justin mentions in the video.  I did get the app installed (after forgetting my Apple ID & P/W, but I finally got it changed, and now all is well).

Hopefully, when I get the repair done, it'll (the drone) make a nice gift for one of my friends (I don't plan on keeping it, but would like whoever I give it to - I got it free, after all - to have something that they can use, and not a piece of junk).