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As the title says, the new update won't be able to auto update while tracking a car. Only walking/bike.

Wtf Dji.
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And you know this how?
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We don’t have the FW yet to use it that was a Mavic right.
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hallmark007 Posted at 2017-10-11 05:23
We don’t have the FW yet to use it that was a Mavic right.

Do you really think if the mavic does not have it the spark will?
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fansb77449ae Posted at 2017-10-11 05:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-D8aCZsiCE&t=205s

I am sorry, it is confirmed that this can only enable when a tracking subject is a person. You can refer to the manual. I thought I had quoted a wrong example before, I am sincerely sorry for the misleading. DNHP.png
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DJI Thor Posted at 2017-10-11 05:28
I am sorry, it is confirmed that this can only enable when a tracking subject is a person. You can refer to the manual. I thought I had quoted a wrong example before, I am sincerely sorry for the misleading.[view_image]

Who was the genius that made that decision?
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fansb77449ae Posted at 2017-10-11 05:27
Do you really think if the mavic does not have it the spark will?

No I don’t but just reminding you that you need new FW before you can try it out
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I guess we will have to wait and see.  Once the firmware is out we can try if it will track anything other than a person.  Miracle do happen
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fansb77449ae Posted at 2017-10-11 05:31
Who was the genius that made that decision?

This function only allows when tracking a person at the moment.
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DJI Thor Posted at 2017-10-13 03:11
This function only allowed when tracking a person at the moment.

That's too bad, since the vast majority of people who want this are people who are moving, you know, fast enough to need the home point to follow them and/or only intend on going in one direction.  People in cars, on bikes, on boats, etc.
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DJI Thor Posted at 2017-10-11 05:28
I am sorry, it is confirmed that this can only enable when a tracking subject is a person. You can refer to the manual. I thought I had quoted a wrong example before, I am sincerely sorry for the misleading.[view_image]

So this is still something that can be done with the Spark, right? I think I'm getting a little confused now...
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Does anyone know if there's a way to ignore certain user's posts on this forum? I'm sick and tired of the abusive rants by this arrogant, entitled crybaby. Why DJI haven't banned this guy already, after his previous name-calling fits?

BTW, yeah, all the world needs now is drones hovering over every second car on the street, crashing into each other, pedestrians, other cars, etc. Right, sounds like a marvelous idea, alright...
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And why do you think this will be the effect? Even with active track, drones can follow cars (up to a certain speed). And I don't see drones following every car, or drone accidents over city streets. Do you?
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djiuser_Kf4iPA3 Posted at 2017-10-13 05:26
And why do you think this will be the effect? Even with active track, drones can follow cars (up to a certain speed). And I don't see drones following every car, or drone accidents over city streets. Do you?

Well think about it you want your drone to follow you in your car, first you will not have LOS of radio to drone so high risk on loosing radio signal, your drone will RTH to last dynamic homepoint most likely middle of the road and hopefully not on top of someone’s car.

If your driving the car you certainly won’t have VLOS , and lastly getting into a car with your remote considering the amount of obstacles that could and would interfere with signal is taking a massive risk..

You mentioned AT this is the correct way to video a car but first off road or on a road where there will be no traffic.
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We just have to put a person on the bonnet and it will work fine.
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I wonder if it works on my motorcycle...I'm a person on the outside of a vehicle...hmm...
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heliman Posted at 2017-10-13 12:13
We just have to put a person on the bonnet and it will work fine.

Yeah sitting on the engine no interference there.
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hallmark007 Posted at 2017-10-13 10:24
Well think about it you want your drone to follow you in your car, first you will not have LOS of radio to drone so high risk on loosing radio signal, your drone will RTH to last dynamic homepoint most likely middle of the road and hopefully not on top of someone’s car.

If your driving the car you certainly won’t have VLOS , and lastly getting into a car with your remote considering the amount of obstacles that could and would interfere with signal is taking a massive risk..

That's kinda out of context of what I was replying to.
The point is, the prospect the other guy raised of drones following cars inside cities and crashing into each other, because of DHP for cars - ain't gonna happen, even if DHP for cars was implemented. Just like it doesn't happen today with AT.
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djiuser_Kf4iPA3 Posted at 2017-10-13 13:21
That's kinda out of context of what I was replying to.
The point is, the prospect the other guy raised of drones following cars inside cities and crashing into each other, because of DHP for cars - ain't gonna happen, even if DHP for cars was implemented. Just like it doesn't happen today with AT.


I don’t think it really matters whether there is 1 drone following a car or 100 drones following a car, the thread is about how ridiculous it is to not allow DHP follow moving cars or at least that’s the opinion of the OP clearly.

But it’s clear that dji have not allowed this practice in DHP on the basis that it’s downright dangerous and would be irresponsible to have included it.
And while the poster may have exaggerated the danger, danger is what it is.

“When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.”
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mmatos Posted at 2017-10-13 03:24
That's too bad, since the vast majority of people who want this are people who are moving, you know, fast enough to need the home point to follow them and/or only intend on going in one direction.  People in cars, on bikes, on boats, etc.

I understand that. Our engineers might also be aware of this, I hope there will be more functions available in the future.
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hallmark007 Posted at 2017-10-13 15:27
I don’t think it really matters whether there is 1 drone following a car or 100 drones following a car, the thread is about how ridiculous it is to not allow DHP follow moving cars or at least that’s the opinion of the OP clearly.

But it’s clear that dji have not allowed this practice in DHP on the basis that it’s downright dangerous and would be irresponsible to have included it.

Then again I ask, why is this theoretical danger greater than the one presented by the presence of AT? if  human pilots were stupid enough to have a drone chase them in the city with DHP, they'd probably be stupid enough to do it with AT as well - because they can.
And still, you don't see drones chasing cars in city streets despite the availability of AT. I don't see how DHP would change that.

My thought as to why DHP is not present for cars is different by the way - I think it's an engineering reason rather than a behavioral one. Just a thought, if DHP is supposed to be updated with a change of every 15m - perhaps they thought a fast-moving object such as a car would cause too frequent HP updates, burdening the app. Just a thought.
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Isn't there a speed limit, anyway?
How fast can the spark track?
And for the problem: how about auto-setting homepoint to RC/device, instead to bird?
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Viking-Pilot Posted at 2017-10-13 04:07
So this is still something that can be done with the Spark, right? I think I'm getting a little confused now...

May I know which part? The Dynamic Home point is not available on Spark at this moment, it will be released by the coming drone's firmware update.
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S-e-ven Posted at 2017-10-13 21:56
Isn't there a speed limit, anyway?
How fast can the spark track?
And for the problem: how about auto-setting homepoint to RC/device, instead to bird?

Sorry, no related data about how fast the Spark can track now, if it is too fast to track the Spark will just hover there until it finds the subject or defines a new subject.
For the dynamic RC position as the Homepoint, I hope it will be supported in the future.
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Up to 50kph / 30+ mph

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DJI Thor Posted at 2017-10-14 01:25
May I know which part? The Dynamic Home point is not available on Spark at this moment, it will be released by the coming drone's firmware update.

The part of tracking a person with DHP, that one is not enablet yet?
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heliman Posted at 2017-10-13 12:13
We just have to put a person on the bonnet and it will work fine.

lol u said bonnet. love it have not heard that in ages!!
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Viking-Pilot Posted at 2017-10-15 07:07
The part of tracking a person with DHP, that one is not enablet yet?

Dynamic Homepoint is available on Mavic at present. But for Spark, it is still on the way, will be available in the coming firmware update.
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DJI Thor Posted at 2017-10-16 03:27
Dynamic Homepoint is available on Mavic at present. But for Spark, it is still on the way, will be available in the coming firmware update.

Ok thank you for the clarification
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Viking-Pilot Posted at 2017-10-16 11:14
Ok thank you for the clarification

No problem. Hope it arrives soon.  
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I used it to track a quad, and a bicycle and worked perfectly. Now, not working with motorcycle (offroad)... what is this?
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here worked fine with bicycle.... motorcycle month ago ok... and now... not?
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