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DDM
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So I just came back from NAB 2015 it should be called the "YEAR OF THE DRONE"!

One particular drone that stuck out was the Solo because of its automated flight patterns so you could focus on camera management. So my question is...DJI can we please see an upgrade with the inspire 1 for this? solo claims they can do it because of the dual Linux managed CPUs on board but I can't help but figure the Inspire one has what it needs to do this. If not perhaps a new camera and gimbal could be sold as an upgrade and inside there could be a second cpu or something....

Oh and maybe a new camera with a super 35mm sensor and higher data rate! Hey I would be excited for even a higher data rate!!!

Love what your doing DJI lets just not loos the lead in the market
2015-4-16
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tpallai
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The inspire already uses a flight controller based off and very similar to DJI A2 Flight Controller which has capabilities of performing waypoints.  DJI just doesn't want us to be able to do this for some reason. They are DJI, you know, who knows what they think!
2015-4-16
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DDM
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Perhaps this will prime the pump! I must say I absolutely love my inspire but, and this is a big BUT! Being able to tell your drone to auto rotate around a subject or dolly back and forth between two points hands free is Awesome!!

Actually what I thinks is even cool is the fact that the Solo allows you to not only set the drone waypoints but also the camera way points  so once you rehearse the move once it will reproduce it, but even smoother than we can. It is like having a Kessler "second shooter" for the sky!
2015-4-16
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FlyRi
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Making orbital fly arround POI is fantastic option. DJI what you think ?

Or Mimic option from MOVI, just using gyroscope data from iPad with to control gimbal movement
2015-4-16
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Barnesville
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DJI could do so much more advanced automated flight control with the Inspire 1 through a combination of firmware and app software.  I hope the competition nudges them to spend some R&D on these features.
2015-4-16
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lethbrp
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I'm keeping a close eye on the Solo. I think if DJI plan not to develop the ground station features, I'll sell my Inspire in favour of the Solo. At the end of the day, these are camera platforms and you need to be able to make the filming as easy as possible. Having these features are a must.
2015-4-17
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rfrye
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lethbrp Posted at 2015-4-17 16:55
I'm keeping a close eye on the Solo. I think if DJI plan not to develop the ground station features, ...


I'll second what you said lithbrp.

It's not a matter as to whether I would LIKE it.

I MUST HAVE autonomous way-point-flight and mission planning for my discipline.
DJI baited me into the Inspire-1 with their talk of it as "coming". 3D Robotics and their Solo now provides me the system to do just that.

What is a well cared for Inspire-1 worth in the used market?

2015-4-17
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markwiss.hotmai
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I want it (autonomous way point flights), too.
2015-4-17
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captdkp
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They can program it but choose not to so they can concentrate on fixing all the problems with the Inspire.  In an interview with the CEO, he stated that very thing and that those that wanted it could signup for the SDK development tool and write a program or wait until someone else does.
2015-4-17
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bubo_bubo
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Way points is one of the reasons I bought the Inspire and am baffled why we cannot do this yet.
2015-4-17
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DDM
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Yep... Not a question of if we need but when we can gt it ... Please DJI... Prety please with sugar on top!
2015-4-17
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stevietrowell
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I recently purchased a dual controller version of the Inspire1 based on its apparent capabilities as presented in DJI's official publicity. I've been a happy owner of a Phantom for over a year & wanted something that could do more. I'm currently away on tour & my Inspire1 remains boxed up sitting at home so having now read all of these forums I'm wondering if it would be better to return the thing & spend a third of the money on something like the 3RD Solo..?

I know I should have looked into these forums before parting with my money but frankly I figured that a product costing that much really ought to be able to do the things that it's sold as being able to do. I'm extremely disappointed to discover the lack of waypoint facilities & autonomous flight but more disappointed in DJI's lack of proper discussion on the subject especially since their promo video clearly promotes it. It is actually illegal to sell a product under misleading or wrong information even if (as they claimed on one of their rare posts) the production company who made the promo video "erred"...Ha ha that is brilliant.

I think this is more of a mini rant that has been bubbling to get out rather than a cry for help but if anybody out there can persuade me to hold on to my Inspire1 then I'm all ears...Steve

2015-4-18
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PaperPlane
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I also was persuaded to purchase based on orbital POI among other capabilities. DJI needs to live up to it's marketing hype and deliver. 3rd party developement is well and good but that means additional money to be shelled out for us early adopters.

DDM did you acutally see the Solo perform this function live? Did they let show attendees play with the units? Being a past NAB attendee I'm well aware of vaporware features at demo booths so I remain skeptical about claimed "features" until I see or hear it from a 3rd party source (should have applied this rule re the Inspire 1).  
2015-4-18
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DDM
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Hi Paper plane this is Jason (DDM) yes I did see it in action. They had a huge well laid out booth. Very slick presentation similar to a goPro or Red booth. They did have a big 20x30' netted cage like DJI would have and yes they were flying it. They also had several videos running showing it working. I didn't ask about shipping day But it sounds like it is soon. dSLRPros and BH are already taking pre orders. In fact some of them are throwing in a 3 axis timbale. They also have full control of the go pro start stop and settings! Not to mention a great battery situation.

Truth is I think the inspire can kick its tush all day long we just need some specific features that I'm sure DJI can make happen. I have confidence in them!!!....(Don't let me down guys)
2015-4-18
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jafarsd720
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I absolutely agree with every word you said. The thing that frustrates me the most is the fact that it is mentioned in the manual that these features are "coming soon" , one would imagine that to be a month, maybe two, and now it is what 4~5 months since release and not even a word, it's so unprofessional for a company that is supposed to be the leader of the industry, perhaps the solo would be the game changer here, we only need to wait and see, I imagine things would be very different a year from now, Not in a good way for dji.
2015-4-18
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PaperPlane
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DDM Posted at 2015-4-19 02:42
Hi Paper plane this is Jason (DDM) yes I did see it in action. They had a huge well laid out booth.  ...

Hey Jason, Ben here. Would have loved to have gone this year but luckily too busy working. It'll be interesting to see when Solo actually delivers and how well it will work in the field. The stopper for me is the fact that you have to use a gopro as your camera platform. I don't like having to deal with correcting the curvature of field in addition to all the other processing/grading we have to go thru. (I own a H3+ BTW).

Definitely would love to see a higher end camera option from DJI...sooner rather than later.
2015-4-19
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GB44
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That Solo is a mean looking UAV.  

Is this the competition that DJI has been dreading.  

Certainly looks like a step towards removing the monopoly and hold DJI seem to have with its customers and lack of spares, not to mention fulfilling marketing promos such as automated flights for the Inspire and continuous bugs.

DJI need to up the anti and start to look after its customers similar to Apple whom I consider to be the market leader in customer care and service.

2015-4-20
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ausidcstaff
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Hopefully the sound of DJI laughing all the way to bank with your cash and their empty promises of "available soon" will soon be replaced with oh s#$@! Time to get off our a$$. But I doubt it DJI has a goldmine at the current time since there is no competition maybe this will poke DJI in the arse!
2015-4-20
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donfiedler.hotm
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Like many, I am disappointed with the Inspire 1....I have been a customer of DJI for 7 years, bought my first Heli version of the XP 3.1, what a breakthrough , then two Ace Ones, then 2 Wookong M's, glad I didn't run out and purchase the waypoints early, as last year they released them at n/c. But it took a long time, sure many are disappointed about that. I also purchased the A2. Best things I like about the Wookongs and the A2 are the POI, Home and Course Lock. I thought sure DJI would have added this features by now. As you can see I have invested a lot in DJI not to mention much, much more in DJI stuff, gimbals, GS, IOSD's etc. Forgot I also have the Pantom Vision + and WAS considering the Phantom 3, HOWEVER after reading about the Solo, not sure I need to invest any more into a DJI product. DJI doesn't communicate at all what, when or if they are going to add features. DJI is good at marketing, but their communications need help.....Don
2015-4-20
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DDM
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PaperPlane Posted at 2015-4-19 22:56
Hey Jason, Ben here. Would have loved to have gone this year but luckily too busy working. It'll b ...

Regarding using the GoPro...I agree fixing the curvature is a pain but I will say while I love my Inspire 1 the data rate IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH for a 4K recording on the inspire 1. The ago Pro 4 black looks much better and proTune is far superior at this point to the log option in inspire. I appreciate the log but it isn't really log. Hopefully we get some flight options and then a camera option and this thing will be a beast!

Don't get me wrong... We can all still get some great stuff out of the Inspire 1 with the lower data rate and manual flying. One of my short flights
2015-4-20
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dbmoss.me
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I don't think I would use autonomous flight until I am sure the GPS dropout issue is solved.
2015-4-20
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SkySight
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Can anyone at DJI explain why the Inspire doesn't currently of autonomous flight? Phantoms already can do it and DJI advertised it would be able included before I purchased it.
2015-4-20
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houston
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Like many of you in here, I too was quite impressed with the solo. With All the features that we are expecting in the inspire to show up in something half price is a bit frustrating to say the least. However we are assuming that this bird will have no issues. It will be interesting to see what the new owners of the solo have to say about it when the new owners start to receive them. I only had my inspire for two weeks before I crashed it and now DJI has had it longer than I have. 1 month as of today.  I can't remember the last time I've been through something so frustrating as having to have dealt with this repair process. Even if this bird flies flawlessly when I get it back I do not see me ever purchasing another DJ I product again. I suspect by then competition will be quite fierce and DJI will either rise to the occasion or fall to its knees.
2015-4-20
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Shtanky
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DJI has had my I1 going on 5 weeks now. I had it for a day before finding a defect and sending it back. That was March 19. I've been reading this forum ever since and can't help but believe we've all been had. It looks impressive and just imagine all the cool things it'll be able to do, one day, ...maybe. On top of that, crappy customer service? I am beyond frustrated. Even though p.60 of the manual shows how to set up POI, I'm reading it doesn't work? Seriously? I've never had buyers remorse more than with this Inspire.
2015-4-20
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DDM
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Wow... Guys (those of you with inspire troubles) I'm so sorry to hear abut the long repair times and bummer experiences your having. Let me be really clear about my original thread. I LOVE my inspire, it is way more powerful and flight worthy than my phantom and likely more flight worthy than the solo as well. I just want some other features that I think DJI can easily do. Let's be cautious how much we just run of to flame about DJI. They might not be the leading experts in customer care at this point but I choose to believe they are trying. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt!
2015-4-21
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Shtanky
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I just want some other features that I think DJI can easily do

I think that's the point to all our concerns and disappointments. The I1 is not the drone it was touted to be. As a professional I don't endorse jobs I can't and have no right to compete for. DJI advertised the I1 as something it's not, and for a lot of money. I'm Mr. benefit of the doubt, but how long do we wait for the features we were promised(or lead to believe) in the first place? Waiting should be reserved for feature updates, not the basics. I am NOT trying to confrontational here at all, please believe me. It's just that I don't have the extra $ to throw around willy nilly for a piece of equipment that falls well short of it's advertised features with no fix in sight. I'm sorry, but "Soon" doesn't do it for me. I made the same mistake with another product (no names) and not 6 months later they came out with a new piece of equipment that completely replaced the one I bought with all the features promised on my model. Mine went obsolete over night and is now a 3k+ door stop. Do we not think that could happen with the I1? I do. I'm also not holding my breathe that my warranty gets extended... although that would be a great starting point in customer service improvement, maybe DJI can start with that?
I know I'm new to the forum and all and don't want to cause a ruckus. I saw an opening in this thread to vent my frustrations I've had for a long time now. Lest not forget I also waited 2 months for the delivery of the I1 before sending it back after just 3 flights. I can't afford to wait too much longer...
2015-4-21
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