Will you keep your spark if OTG cables are disabled?
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Lucas775 Posted at 2017-12-30 05:28
Yes, because the Spark is never offered to fly with the OTG cable.

True, but even in the Europe it is offered as a drone with max range of 500m. The reality without OTG cable is 50m due to the harsh WiFi regulations and removed OTG support (though unofficial, it worked great, still does with older versions of DJI GO 4). In essence, without OTG, the Spark is a fraud in the Europe at this time as it is promising 10x greater range than it really provides ;).
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Vyborny83 Posted at 2017-12-30 05:54
True, but even in the Europe it is offered as a drone with max range of 500m. The reality without OTG cable is 50m due to the harsh WiFi regulations and removed OTG support (though unofficial, it worked great, still does with older versions of DJI GO 4). In essence, without OTG, the Spark is a fraud in the Europe at this time as it is promising 10x greater range than it really provides ;).

Take note of this clip from the US Spark Manual.  Pay special attention to the last sentence

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Tviscomi Posted at 2017-12-30 06:03
Take note of this clip from the US Spark Manual.  Pay special attention to the last sentence

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Seriously ? Did you even notice that I am talking about EU regulations and you are reciting the FCC regulation for the US ? Btw ... in the US the maximal range for spark is 2km ... 4x as much as in the Europe. And it doesn't matter what is in the manual anyway, 10x smaller range cannot be justified by anything ;).
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Vyborny83 Posted at 2017-12-30 06:16
Seriously ? Did you even notice that I am talking about EU regulations and you are reciting the FCC regulation for the US ? Btw ... in the US the maximal range for spark is 2km ... 4x as much as in the Europe. And it doesn't matter what is in the manual anyway, 10x smaller range cannot be justified by anything ;).

I was only using that as an example.  I sure that there is similar verbiage in the EU version of the manual.  I guess I should have stated that in my post.
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Tviscomi Posted at 2017-12-30 06:36
I was only using that as an example.  I sure that there is similar verbiage in the EU version of the manual.  I guess I should have stated that in my post.

Don't worry, I understand. It's just that I find it funny to try to reach the best max distance of a Spark in an altitude of 120m when I am unable to fly more than 50m over a WiFi . Fortunately, with an older version of DJI GO 4 the OTG works and with that I can get about 400m which is cool, at least for the EU anyway ;).
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Vyborny83 Posted at 2017-12-30 06:52
Don't worry, I understand. It's just that I find it funny to try to reach the best max distance of a Spark in an altitude of 120m when I am unable to fly more than 50m over a WiFi . Fortunately, with an older version of DJI GO 4 the OTG works and with that I can get about 400m which is cool, at least for the EU anyway ;).

I totally feel for you all overseas with all the issues your having.  50 meters (150ish feet) is unacceptable.  I personally don't have many issues with my Spark and only really use it when the kids visit.  I just don't trust it enough.  I fly my reliable Mavic for for longer range filming/pictures.
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Vyborny83 Posted at 2017-12-30 06:52
Don't worry, I understand. It's just that I find it funny to try to reach the best max distance of a Spark in an altitude of 120m when I am unable to fly more than 50m over a WiFi . Fortunately, with an older version of DJI GO 4 the OTG works and with that I can get about 400m which is cool, at least for the EU anyway ;).

Wish i had that distance...i dont need more...
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Dear. DJI Elektra


Just wanted to know if it will fix the function to use the otg cable on Spark
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I'm prefer my Mavic ;-)
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I've read a few posts about OTG, enough that I considered buying the cable...but with my iPad and RC, I've had zero problems just using WiFi, out to 1000ft and up to 390ft I got perfect reception, great telemetry, etc.  So I'm not clear what the big deal is.
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Psyches Posted at 2017-12-31 00:05
I've read a few posts about OTG, enough that I considered buying the cable...but with my iPad and RC, I've had zero problems just using WiFi, out to 1000ft and up to 390ft I got perfect reception, great telemetry, etc.  So I'm not clear what the big deal is.

Well, that's probably because you are in the US and the problem everybody is talking about concerns the EU ;). In the US you have much less strict rules concerning the strength of a WiFi signal + your phones support 5,8GHz band. That is not the case in Europe and our max range of Spark without the OTG cable is about 50m .
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Vyborny83 Posted at 2017-12-31 00:15
Well, that's probably because you are in the US and the problem everybody is talking abou concerns the EU ;). In the US you have much less strict rules concerning the strength of a WiFi signal + your phones support 5,8GHz band. That is not the case in Europe and our max range of Spark without the OTG cable is about 50m .

Ah!  Thanks for the info...that makes sense :-)
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Serdoura Posted at 2017-12-30 08:24
Wish i had that distance...i dont need more...

More range PM me
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I wish i could fly 300 m in the beach with no disconnect and RTH.


Thats all.
ON CE, of course.

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Loonytik Posted at 2017-12-19 17:58
I'm very new to the Spark(less than 10 flights) and have been mostly happy. I wanted to say that my OTG cable connection on my Android phone seems to be mostly working(is it not supposed to work?). It connects fine and I have MUCH better video feed using the OTG as opposed to WiFi. One thing that doesn't work with the OTG cable is the height and distance readings. They simply don't register.

Same thing I've noticed.
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mario23 Posted at 2017-12-31 11:14
Same thing I've noticed.

So go, downgrade your go4 app from 4.1.18 or .22 to 4.1.15 or .14!
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Lucas775 Posted at 2017-12-21 06:37
I find wifi to be the best connection for the spark end of story.

Same here.
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Try to switch to CE (EU) mode + get an European phone that does not work with 5,8GHz band. Then we can talk about WiFi ;).
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Rickyber Posted at 2017-12-19 10:08
Patience, patience, patience !!!
Good things come to those who wait.

Haha typical comment from a 21st Century Schizoid man.

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Vyborny83 Posted at 2017-12-30 04:40
Yes, the OTG still somewhat works with the newer versions of DJI GO 4, but because it does not show the crucial flight data (including remaining baterry time) it became useless.

The reason why you don't see the difference between the OTG cable and WiFi is because you are in Australia. The problem everybody is talking about (including me) concerns the Europe because most of the phones used here can't use the 5,8GHz band and we are stuck with very limited range via WiFi only connection (about 50m max in my case compared to 400m via OTG cable). This is due to much more strict regulations in Europe. And that's why I still use DJI GO 4 4.1.14 that shows all the data even through OTG cable (version 4.1.15 works as well).

This is not 100% correct. Australia has issues with the 5.8 band just like the EU. Only half the band is actually available (read legal) We have issues and i am personally fond of the OTG connection. And have had bad experiences flying with wifi.



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Lucas775 Posted at 2017-12-30 05:28
Yes, because the Spark is never offered to fly with the OTG cable.

Wrong, Wrong Wrong.

The spark was built for OTG connections. That does not mean though for what you think of as the mobile app that is reading the data-stream.

It was built to connect to the DJI Goggles. The OTG capability is primarily used for that. Unfortunately DJI have had a series of Bugs that has caused the Smartphone app connection via OTG to misbehave.

Thats OK they are working on these software app bugs and will get them resolved eventually.

They also publicly support the OTG connection to the CrystalSky android application. That is getting more focus than the IOS version.

Since then a number of updates to DJI Go 4 and FW on the Spark. Both Android and IOS OTG connections are working fine. At least for me. I have 5 sparks and I have tested them on IOS and Samsungs and Crystal skys.

For those people that think DJI is going to mysteriously take away OTG functionally from you, really need to take some anti paranoid pills.

Life is good. OTG is good. Enjoy 2018.

Cheers

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bjr981s Posted at 2018-1-2 09:37
Wrong, Wrong Wrong.

The spark was built for OTG connections. That does not mean though for what you think of as the mobile app that is reading the data-stream.

Show me where it is written in the manual.
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Spark is a toy, not a professional drone....
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CloudKicker Posted at 2017-12-29 15:06
my OTG still works BUT,
1. i dont get any on screens info for satelites, altitude, distance from home point or spark battery level.
2. You cannot set the battery level warning it is locked on '0'. so i am currently limiting my flight time to 10 mins to be safe

You need to downgrade/rollback your djigo4 ap to a version .15 or lower...all of the versions since .18 .20 and .22 have disabled otg and those readings you are no longer getting.
Once you have an ap installed version lower than .18 you will have all the readings and info and options you used to have before.
The spark flight height and distance has nothing to do with the otg cable so that will not change, but your video transmission using wifi to transmit from the controller to your mobile device will be laggy and choppy.
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I downgraded my Fw to 0800 and never updated the app when I was using 0900 I found that it flew worse loosing signal short fly range Otg not working on Apple or badly on my Sony no data Dhs..NA readings with the 0800 everything is back to normal except it reminds me to update the Fw..Maybe being a new phone and installing the old app and downgraded to 0800 may be a solve...I've yet need to get back to London to check this out...but as it stands I can see data with the Otg and that's progressive for me...I've had this drone  3weeks I bought it in Tiawan so it would be a nightmare refund
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Hope your right Wichtberger... Mines a keeper for now!
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I Can't Remember the last time i actually flew my spark without otg due to the problems i get with range! I dont even get far so its pointless sending it up until the otg cable function is going to be enabled. I do have faith that they will bring this all back in the end but the question is when?
We don't get a good answer apart from they are working on it.
Hopefully they are but until then i have no enjoyment with my spark.
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OTG will not disable for SPARK, If DJI engineer disable this OTG then the DJI Goggles will not work for the SPARK.
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Nelsonlee Posted at 2018-1-2 22:57
OTG will not disable for SPARK, If DJI engineer disable this OTG then the DJI Goggles will not work for the SPARK.

Nonsense... There is no problem with the HW identifier limit the functions (CrystalSky and Dji Googles work, no Dji HW not work).. Obviously you are not a programmer..
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Hi Guys,

This might be a clue to what will happend with the OTG in Spark:

https://developer.dji.com/mobile ... t_introduction.html

If you check the last table, the remote controller for Spark is connected only via WiFi. not USB. And this is OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION FROM DJI, not a screenshot from a message or a post in a forum.

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janderEsp Posted at 2018-1-3 04:57
Hi Guys,

This might be a clue to what will happend with the OTG in Spark:

Umm, and how does this help our problem about disabled OTG in newer versions of DJI GO 4 ? OTG was never oficially supported, but it worked (the last version OTG works with is DJI GO 4 4.1.15).
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I guess the only help is to keep the DJI Go with versions < 4.1.15 . But the big issue is if DJI decides to hot patch the old apps and disable the OTG in this version as well...
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janderEsp Posted at 2018-1-3 05:33
I guess the only help is to keep the DJI Go with versions < 4.1.15  . But the big issue is if DJI decides to hot patch the old apps and disable the OTG in this version as well...

If you are not making update and if you're not connected, no one can force you to update the spark. It has been annouced recently that DJI was working on OTG support on Spark.  
For the ones who qualified the spark as a toy, the mavic has the same sensor and is much more expansive. The numerous reviews are speaking about a better photo quality on the spark, and the same quality for video on HD (largely sufficient ! how many of us are real pros).  For a real gap in quality, the P4 is the way to go...
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bjr981s Posted at 2018-1-2 09:01
Haha typical comment from a 21st Century Schizoid man.

Love your avatar. King Crimson is one of my Favourite bands.

Thanks, I was lucky to see them in concert during the seventies.
Wow !!!, I'm showing my age now......lol
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bjr981s Posted at 2018-1-2 09:37
Wrong, Wrong Wrong.

The spark was built for OTG connections. That does not mean though for what you think of as the mobile app that is reading the data-stream.

I agree with you !!!!!
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DJI GO 4-- 4.1.15 here

https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/dji-technology-co-ltd/dji-go-4/dji-go-4-4-1-15-release/dji-go-4-for-drones-since-p4-4-1-15-3-android-apk-download/


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Wachtberger Posted at 2017-12-19 09:58
This poll is pointless, sorry. OTG support will come when it is ready for release. This has been clearly stated by DJI.

Agreed with @Wachtberger
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Come on guys, do you really think that DJI is "improving" OTG on spark?
It worked like a charm in older versions of DJI GO why it suddenly stopped work?
Sorry you all but for me It is clear like de Sun light, Spark Washington becoming a problem for the mavics specially for the AIR.
The problem for me was that I bought spark because It could work with OTG no matter If It was official or not, I did my research and It would fit for me but then DJI decided to remove the feature that was working and in my case was one of the points that helped to decide for spark, come on....

Imagine if GM sell a car with a V8 engine and It was working fine, but then they realize that the car impacting in others cars sells then they disable 4 cylinders using a upgrade at the ECU.
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Lucas775 Posted at 2018-1-2 10:30
Show me where it is written in the manual.

Will their web site do?

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