Jos A Posted at 2018-1-26 07:51
Just like the spark you can make your own go app with the option " force to FCC"

Unfortunately, no such a thing for MA.

hallmark007 Posted at 2018-1-26 12:01
Hey don’t be so ridiculous, of course there is simply because there are 95% more people using normal app.
But one advantage they have is if Aircraft malfunctions they have a warranty if they had Care refresh and they recover their drone they are covered, unlike anyone who decides to hack the app.

Well, with appropriate sanitation of the black box data for the privacy purposes, how DJI can tell what app was used?

Mharro88 Posted at 2018-1-25 07:32
Does anyone know if Australia will get the 4km or are we like Europe and get the CE half range crap?

Hello,
Australia is in FCC Mode..

eYeSkYeYe Posted at 2018-2-3 10:31
Well, with appropriate sanitation of the black box data for the privacy purposes, how DJI can tell what app was used?

I think if your claiming warranty you need to show dji your flight log, I’ve seen one case on Mavic Pro forum were dji refused warranty on the basis that user was using hacked app, I’m sure they a system that can tell which app you are using we see this a lot with the use of Litchi app.

Mharro88 Posted at 2018-1-25 07:32
Does anyone know if Australia will get the 4km or are we like Europe and get the CE half range crap?

Hi Im in Brisbane and have been out 3.5klms only turned around due to battery,plus it does say FCC in the AC

i really doubt about it, esp in a real world conditions

DJI Thor Posted at 2018-1-26 01:56
Hi Yuumee, Mavic air uses the enhanced WiFi video transmission system, it can reach to 4000m in FCC mode when the environment is available. Please refer to the specs below.[view_image]

Is there a way to switch modes from FCC to CE to MIC?

DJT_MVSP Posted at 2018-1-28 06:50
The range would probably be around 1.5 KM in real world conditions

Around 2km in real world. Tried it!

jashjacob Posted at 2018-2-6 03:37
Around 2km in real world. Tried it!

Just did a range test and got up to 2 KM before it lost connection entirely. Pretty good considering my mavic pro can only reach 3 KM

I just got chance to try my Mavic Air yesterday, when I fly up around 90m. my iPhone screen telling me the signal is lost and image is blank. I'm flying at night time, does this make any difference? How can I get better transmission?

Mharro88 Posted at 2018-1-25 07:32
Does anyone know if Australia will get the 4km or are we like Europe and get the CE half range crap?

I noticed Apple were selling the air with the 4km range listed.  So I opened up a chat and specifically asked about transmit power. They said it's correct. 4km according to the Au shop info.

Either we are not getting CE restrictions, or they just did a copy and paste from the US shop aka FCC regs.

I kind of want to know for sure though. Wish there was someone in Oz that could actually test.

Anyone in Singapore tried the MA? How far it can travel and how high?

Well, you always have to keep in mind that these product pages on company websites are written by marketing guys who mainly interested in selling their products because their salary is based on commissions.
So it usually goes like this: the marketing guys are in a meeting with the engineers and maybe a manager or two. They ask for the product capabilities and the engineers give some realistic numbers, even if they are odd. Then marketing guys probably say that these odd numbers are not good for marketing the product. And because managers are their (encouraging the engineers) the engineers start to talk of hypothetical capabilities and the marketing guys pick that up and write it down somewhere. Then the meeting end and time goes past and the page has to be created. The marketing guys check their notes and then take numbers that sound better. Because they want to sell...

so 4km is very likely the most ideal case

kfloke Posted at 2018-2-10 00:14
Anyone in Singapore tried the MA? How far it can travel and how high?

took it out at marina barrage today. went out to sea for about 600m+  then the connection got a bit unstable (just about flying above some ships/tankers ). Didn't want to risk it much so turned around. There was another gentleman there who said he gets around 500 - 600m with his mavic pro at that area, may be too much interference from the ships and tankers.. will try again  next week during the Chinese New Year holidays at the same spot.

achim1989 Posted at 2018-2-10 01:39
Well, you always have to keep in mind that these product pages on company websites are written by marketing guys who mainly interested in selling their products because their salary is based on commissions.
So it usually goes like this: the marketing guys are in a meeting with the engineers and maybe a manager or two. They ask for the product capabilities and the engineers give some realistic numbers, even if they are odd. Then marketing guys probably say that these odd numbers are not good for marketing the product. And because managers are their (encouraging the engineers) the engineers start to talk of hypothetical capabilities and the marketing guys pick that up and write it down somewhere. Then the meeting end and time goes past and the page has to be created. The marketing guys check their notes and then take numbers that sound better. Because they want to sell...

in the very ideal cases we've seen MA flying  even 5km+ . There is a youtube video somewhere here, still had good signal strength, but turned around due to battery limitation..

Drizz Posted at 2018-2-9 02:36
I noticed Apple were selling the air with the 4km range listed.  So I opened up a chat and specifically asked about transmit power. They said it's correct. 4km according to the Au shop info.

Either we are not getting CE restrictions, or they just did a copy and paste from the US shop aka FCC regs.

Australia SRRC max distance 1.6 miles.

cyborg Posted at 2018-2-10 03:43
in the very ideal cases we've seen MA flying  even 5km+ . There is a youtube video somewhere here, still had good signal strength, but turned around due to battery limitation..

Well, 5km+ is impressive. But then again to reach this kind of range the conditions (landscape, wheather, etc.) have to be quite excellent. And also the power output of the RC will have to massive. Think of standing next to leaky microwave oven. Not the healthiest thing to do.
So what I'm trying to say is consider the tradeoffs when going for higher range

achim1989 Posted at 2018-2-10 06:19
Well, 5km+ is impressive. But then again to reach this kind of range the conditions (landscape, wheather, etc.) have to be quite excellent. And also the power output of the RC will have to massive. Think of standing next to leaky microwave oven. Not the healthiest thing to do.
So what I'm trying to say is consider the tradeoffs when going for higher range

yeah, me personally will be more than happy with a 1.5km stable range, nothing more required. I don't see myself flying any further than that..

A CW Posted at 2018-1-26 02:14
Its omnidirectional antennas placed on the foldable landing gear help increase signal coverage to deliver a maximum range of up to 2.5 miles (4km)   with 720p real-time video transmission when flying with the remote controller.

That appears to be the most logical explanation from DJI as to why the range is greater than the Spark though 4KM in FCC and 2KM in CE areas are yet to be seen... And I hope that the small mAh in the battery has enough juice to sustain a safe return on a five mile round flight in modetate winds as using Sport mode to reach 42.5MPH will massively drain that battery and knock the max 21 minutes (16-18 in reality in normal flight) to less than 15 minutes quite easily. My biggest concern flying a WiFi only drone one or two miles away (other than losing VLOS) will be how sensitive the signal is to transmission interference - not sure what the speed is in p-mode and if the drone has dual compass redundancy to help prevent the potential of a fly away. Once more, this drone does not seem to be designed for long distance flying, as is the case with the Spark using the same enhanced WiFi transmission.

About 20.8 mph in p mode. And if you're in or near a city, it's proven on my end to be terrible with signal transmission.

Good to know - ta!

no need for huck just use a fake gps app on any android phone and set it to usa then start the dji go 4 and make sure you get 11 channels instead of 13 which is for CE.
Then disable the fake gps app or use an iphone for example to start the dji go 4 app but this time you will get a message that you are in europe .. something about changing wifi signals bla bla just say cancel and you will still have the FC 11 channels. just remember every time you start the app to say no to the prompt otherwise you will have to start the process all over again.

Montfrooij Posted at 2018-1-26 02:19
Of course 'we' will get the tuned down transmission....
CE rules.
DJI can't help it.

When the UK comes out of Europe will we get more

CarloUK Posted at 2018-2-10 12:09
When the UK comes out of Europe will we get more

Wow, that is a positive effect of leaving the EU

Mharro88 Posted at 2018-1-25 07:32
Does anyone know if Australia will get the 4km or are we like Europe and get the CE half range crap?

Mine mavic air here in europe last week made a flight over 4,2km, and mavic pro easy pass 8km...

CarloUK Posted at 2018-2-10 12:09
When the UK comes out of Europe will we get more

I wish you continuing sweet dreams ;-)

MaxMOdd from Drone-World that's how...i'll post my review when i get my controller back

kfloke Posted at 2018-2-10 00:14
Anyone in Singapore tried the MA? How far it can travel and how high?

In Singapore with Air, I can confirm you won't get over 500m in city. Too much WIFI interference. I've tried with all kinds of drone. Unless you fly out to sea maybe you can get 500m+.

Acenspades u should have grabbed a 4hawks...that maxxmodd is overpriced crap... me and a bunch of guys on the other forum grabbed the 4Hawks antenna and we all have killer range!

Yea 300$ for the "maxxmodd" and its a helical..  rip off. Let us know how it goes ;)

Magius Posted at 2018-3-9 23:29
In Singapore with Air, I can confirm you won't get over 500m in city. Too much WIFI interference. I've tried with all kinds of drone. Unless you fly out to sea maybe you can get 500m+.

Yes agree and experienced it myself. Won't able to get more than 100m in general. Only can fly in short distance

In any situation if it flies beyond max distance or height, will it getting crashed or went missing?

Jos A Posted at 2018-1-26 11:09
There a more flyaways with the normal app then a hacked app, read the spark forum

Cannondale have a PM for FCC Magic Air too

Simmo1 Posted at 2018-1-25 04:47
With my directional wifi 'extender' I get about 12 k. los.

show us a video, with you in it, showing us all that you are at 12k with the MA. I would love to see it.

DJT_MVSP Posted at 2018-1-28 06:50
The range would probably be around 1.5 KM in real world conditions

My last test "in RL conditions" as you say, gave me 2.4km in Europe, and I wasn't in the middle of nowhere, just on the edge of my town.

Is there a way to see if you are in FCC or CE mode?
Currently in the EU, so I’m certain that I’ll be in CE now.
But when I travel to South Africa, what mode would I be in?

Onbekommerd Posted at 2018-6-27 02:55
Is there a way to see if you are in FCC or CE mode?
Currently in the EU, so I’m certain that I’ll be in CE now.
But when I travel to South Africa, what mode would I be in?

If you have 11 Channels in 2.4 Ghz you are in FCC mode, if you have 13 Channels you are in CE.

$gambino$ Posted at 2018-3-9 23:33
Acenspades u should have grabbed a 4hawks...that maxxmodd is overpriced crap... me and a bunch of guys on the other forum grabbed the 4Hawks antenna and we all have killer range!

for me personally, the 4Hawks Raptor SR gave me a smoother and more reliable video feed. but i didnt get a massive range boost, went from 1300m to 1500/1600m. with that being said i was flyinng 50m off the ground in an urban area using FCC mode, i got 2500m when being at 200m altitude and trying my best to point the antennnas in the right direction.

I think that it uses a different kind of WiFi

The range is really useful, so, could you use the wifi as just wifi?

Mharro88 Posted at 2018-1-25 07:32
Does anyone know if Australia will get the 4km or are we like Europe and get the CE half range crap?

We get the 1/2 range crap