Jeff Millard Posted at 2018-2-12 15:12
I'm a drone pilot. My neck hurts from looking up trying to find them. Bring peanuts so you can leave a trail!

Jeff

Ok, I will make contact with my friends at Lume Cube, to design some bright lights for the 184. Haha


Thanks for the idea.

Peanuts eh? Yeah, just follow the monkey doodoo. Ha


RedHotPoker

I think I'd rather go up in this one. Has a parachute just in case

http://workhorse.com/surefly

BearDrone Posted at 2018-2-12 16:13
I think I'd rather go up in this one. Has a parachute just in case

http://workhorse.com/surefly

Sure that will work for me too. But do you trust a chute?


RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-12 16:17
Sure that will work for me too. But do you trust a chute?

Well, I guess I'd rather have one than not. If it doesn't go well, they'll at least have a huge marker from the sky as to where to locate my body..

BearDrone Posted at 2018-2-12 16:29
Well, I guess I'd rather have one than not. If it doesn't go well, they'll at least have a huge marker from the sky as to where to locate my body..

If you trust the technology to fly in one, then you shouldn't need a chute.

But if you feel the safety chute is necessary, then trust must be in short supply.

With the 184, so much testing has been done already, that it seems quite reliable.

Emergency wards are kept very busy from people relying on safety features, that failed or were inadequate. Like the safety on a gun, never to be trusted.

That's why I am a Bowhunter... Haha

RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-12 18:02
If you trust the technology to fly in one, then you shouldn't need a chute.

But if you feel the safety chute is necessary, then trust must be in short supply.

'With the 184, so much testing has been done already, that it seems quite reliable.'

I would not be so eager to believe that. The company is a master of CGI special effects, their greatest achievement seems to be in convincing people that they have a tried and tested product, but it has only been quite recently that anyone has actually flown in one, and never more than a few meters from the take-off site. Take a look at that control room in the video clip, what function does it perform? None, it is anotrher case of blinding people with BS.

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-12 18:02
If you trust the technology to fly in one, then you shouldn't need a chute.

But if you feel the safety chute is necessary, then trust must be in short supply.

No, I get where you are coming from. I just think that sUAS and UAS's are still somewhat 'new' in that dominant technologies still need to shake out a bit. So many firmware and software issues on the consumer recreational drone side that the paranoia is that could carry over to passenger drones. I'm sure it is unwarranted, but you know the saying, "Fear what you do not understand".

I've not made the transition into bow hunting just yet. I'm still a rifle/shotgun guy. What are you hunting with your bow and where, if you don't mind me asking?

Geebax Posted at 2018-2-12 18:07
'With the 184, so much testing has been done already, that it seems quite reliable.'

I would not be so eager to believe that. The company is a master of CGI special effects, their greatest achievement seems to be in convincing people that they have a tried and tested product, but it has only been quite recently that anyone has actually flown in one, and never more than a few meters from the take-off site. Take a look at that control room in the video clip, what function does it perform? None, it is anotrher case of blinding people with BS.

Well, truth be told, Your points are certainly valid. But I want to be a believer in them.

Surely they would have 100% reliability before allowing anyone to actually ride in one?

Do you think we will see problematic flights, perhaps with disastrous results? Hope not.


RedHotPoker

BearDrone Posted at 2018-2-12 18:08
No, I get where you are coming from. I just think that sUAS and UAS's are still somewhat 'new' in that dominant technologies still need to shake out a bit. So many firmware and software issues on the consumer recreational drone side that the paranoia is that could carry over to passenger drones. I'm sure it is unwarranted, but you know the saying, "Fear what you do not understand".

I've not made the transition into bow hunting just yet. I'm still a rifle/shotgun guy. What are you hunting with your bow and where, if you don't mind me asking?

Yes, but RC dtones must be much more complicated than real aircraft, aren't they?  ;-)


I have a vote of confidence for them,, and believe we will see these things in every major city in North America, before the next decade ends.

Bowhunting, takes much more skill, patience, practice, scent control. Did I mention stealth?
Where I live Edmonton Alberta, our city is actually within a bowhunting zone. We can hunt right in the city limits. Most game requires permits, tags, licence. The usual bureaucracy, but our game is so well managed and our Hunter Training and Conservation very well run, it's all worth while to hunt fair chase, and legal. I can only tell you that deer and elk are plentiful here. But we have spring bear hunts, bison, cougar, wolves, coyotes, tons of small game which requires no licence. It's wild up here, you know...
You could hunt rabbits and squirrels all day... Ok. You get the picture.
Some big game is by draw... Have a look at this: http://www.albertaregulations.ca/huntingregs/gameregs.html
Gives you some ideas and thoughts about Edmonton Alberta.
When we started this group, back in the '70's, there were only a dozen or more of us...
http://www.bowhunters.ca
My how it has grown up. Swell much? Haha


RedHotPoker

This looks like fun to ride in

eman_vg Posted at 2018-2-12 19:26
This looks like fun to ride in

Sure beats calling UBER! Haha


RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-12 18:10
Well, truth be told, Your points are certainly valid. But I want to be a believer in them.

Surely they would have 100% reliability before allowing anyone to actually ride in one?

'Surely they would have 100% reliability before allowing anyone to actually ride in one?'

Absolutely not. Why do you think they have any better quality assurance programs than DJI? In the US, you would have to apply to the FAA for a licence to fly that thing with a person on board, and the FAA would require you to use a licensed test pilot to do the tests. There are many stages to certify a new aircraft type, and I don't beleive they are following any of those steps. If you looked back at their early efforts, it was a very dodgy device being flown off a vacant lot beside the factory. It is all smoke and mirrors.

Geebax Posted at 2018-2-12 20:06
'Surely they would have 100% reliability before allowing anyone to actually ride in one?'

Absolutely not. Why do you think they have any better quality assurance programs than DJI? In the US, you would have to apply to the FAA for a licence to fly that thing with a person on board, and the FAA would require you to use a licensed test pilot to do the tests. There are many stages to certify a new aircraft type, and I don't beleive they are following any of those steps. If you looked back at their early efforts, it was a very dodgy device being flown off a vacant lot beside the factory. It is all smoke and mirrors.

Yes, I see the same smoke you do.
Oh well perhaps I see much more smoke than you, but that's for a different forum. Chuckles

But even my UFO friends are chattering about the "ehang thang".
It's the new UFO. Hahaha

RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-12 20:56
Yes, I see the same smoke you do.
Oh well perhaps I see much more smoke than you, but that's for a different forum. Chuckles

Really, the guy who is narrating that clip has been sucked into this big time , either that or he has little or no ability to question what he is seeing. Even the footage in that clip is BS, one moment you are looking at the original model, then the guys are seen in the 8 arm version with 16 motors, it lands, they step out, and immediately cut to shots of the older version on the ground with four arms taken from the air. Like I said, smoke and mirrors.

Geebax Posted at 2018-2-12 21:32
Really, the guy who is narrating that clip has been sucked into this big time , either that or he has little or no ability to question what he is seeing. Even the footage in that clip is BS, one moment you are looking at the original model, then the guys are seen in the 8 arm version with 16 motors, it lands, they step out, and immediately cut to shots of the older version on the ground with four arms taken from the air. Like I said, smoke and mirrors.

Haha, it gets even better, when the home made drones get in the air.



There are numerous autonomous drones coming out of the workshops now.
It's becoming the new big thing... Haha


RedHotPoker

Yes ok, hang on, this is going to be a very rough landing.




A fatal crash.


RedHotPoker

I wish it could fly like a 3D heli, similar to what I am building.


I love that sound as well. Ha
You want a quitter drone, I like it loud and in your face sound.


RedHotPoker

How about a personal cruiser, for your own?



Something that goes faster would be more fun to me, but it's still early.


RedHotPoker

Yes, I saw that one also.
I would like one
Will need a decent gimbal system though that can carry my DSLR

Montfrooij Posted at 2018-2-13 01:22
Yes, I saw that one also.
I would like one
Will need a decent gimbal system though that can carry my DSLR

Ah no, use your spy glasses, or the Helmet cam... Guffaw


RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-13 01:25
Ah no, use your spy glasses, or the Helmet cam... Guffaw

Who knows.
Would be a great toy.

Montfrooij Posted at 2018-2-13 01:34
Who knows.
Would be a great toy.

Yes, another wonderful addition to the stable... ;-)

Have you been studying the manual? Ha



RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-13 01:43
Yes, another wonderful addition to the stable... ;-)

Have you been studying the manual? Ha

No, did not have time to investigate that.
But I will do for sure when I have buying plans
Just curious how you calibrate the IMU

Montfrooij Posted at 2018-2-13 01:56
No, did not have time to investigate that.
But I will do for sure when I have buying plans
Just curious how you calibrate the IMU

RTFM and all will be revealed. Hahaha

You know the rule, memorize a new chapter every day... ;-)


RedHotPoker

Jeff Millard Posted at 2018-2-12 15:12
I'm a drone pilot. My neck hurts from looking up trying to find them. Bring peanuts so you can leave a trail!

Jeff

You should take the Ehang day course... Ha


RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-13 02:00
RTFM and all will be revealed. Hahaha

You know the rule, memorize a new chapter every day... ;-)

RTFM all the way.

Montfrooij Posted at 2018-2-13 02:31
RTFM all the way.

Hopefully is isn't above your head! ;-)

Keep it at eye level. Ok? Haha



RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-13 02:33
Hopefully is isn't above your head! ;-)

Keep it at eye level. Ok? Haha

Hope not.
Better before flying.
....

Montfrooij Posted at 2018-2-13 02:47
Hope not.
Better before flying.
....

You are a card... Haha



RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-13 12:43
You are a card... Haha

That was a long time ago (playing cards)

Montfrooij Posted at 2018-2-13 12:49
That was a long time ago (playing cards)

Yes, but an Ace, non the less. Haha



RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-13 12:52
Yes, but an Ace, non the less. Haha

Ace ventura

Montfrooij Posted at 2018-2-13 13:11
Ace ventura

What does Ace mean? A ce as a boys' name is pronounced ayce. It is of English origin, and the meaning of Ace is "number one, the best" ;-)


RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-13 02:19
You should take the Ehang day course... Ha
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Any word when they hope to strap some hapless victim into the seat and send them up amongst the birdies?

Jeff

Jeff Millard Posted at 2018-2-13 18:16
Any word when they hope to strap some hapless victim into the seat and send them up amongst the birdies?

Jeff

I was thinking that you should volunteer for your area. ;-)

Blindly going where no man has gone before, in your neighbourhood. Ha


I would do the same for the Alberta capital.


RdHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-13 18:25
I was thinking that you should volunteer for your area. ;-)

Blindly going where no man has gone before, in your neighbourhood. Ha

I get air sickness wearing DJI goggles. So probably not, my friend.

Jeff

Jeff Millard Posted at 2018-2-13 18:29
I get air sickness wearing DJI goggles. So probably not, my friend.

Jeff

Since we don't fly it, you can wear blinders, or a blindfold.

Go in, dark.... Ha



RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-2-13 13:41
What does Ace mean? A ce as a boys' name is pronounced ayce. It is of English origin, and the meaning of Ace is "number one, the best" ;-)

I only know it as the movie

Montfrooij Posted at 2018-2-14 00:18
I only know it as the movie

At least it's a Canadian actor. Ha



RedHotPoker

I'd stick to a Bayern made one:

https://lilium.com/news/

It's always better to have a flying BMW...instead of a ... ...name it