Hi !

Which lens do you prefer with your X5S? the most usefull, the one you use often, given best images.
Could you argue and share picture please !

On my X5S I use also Olympu 14-42!

And... Panasonic!

Oly 25mm is pin sharp with incredible depth

I got the 25mm a few weeks ago as my 4th lens (got the 12mm, 15mm and 45mm collected over the last 2 years), and I have to say, it’s by far my favorite.

Gives a nice tight shot on your subject with nice sharpness and contrast, while still being wide enough to let you capture landscapes.

Brilliant piece of kit!

ToscanaDrone Posted at 2018-5-7 22:27
On my X5S I use also Olympu 14-42!

And... Panasonic!

Hi guys !
Thanks for sharing your experiences !
I was very interested in the PANASONIC 14-42mm but I'm afraid about distortion (fisheye)... Does lightroom get profil to correct distortion (from 14 to 42 mm ?) ?
25mm sounds good, I would love to see some pictures (better for video but less polyvalent than the previous one for photography)

YOYOMAN Posted at 2018-5-8 12:51
Hi guys !
Thanks for sharing your experiences !
I was very interested in the PANASONIC 14-42mm but I'm afraid about distortion (fisheye)... Does lightroom get profil to correct distortion (from 14 to 42 mm ?) ?

I have Olympus 14-42, not Panasonic!

ToscanaDrone Posted at 2018-5-8 15:02
I have Olympus 14-42, not Panasonic!

Do you notice distortion with Olympus? any way to correct it?

The Olympus 45mm has been a fantastic lens for me. I really love it for getting urban shots that look like you're up close and personal when you're actually safely back over a park or vacant lot. After reading this post I will be looking into the Olympus 25mm. I've had times where the default DJI lens was too wide but the Olympus 45mm was too tight. I may have to add to my bag of tricks. Thanks YoYoMan for the poll.

Cobra44Magnum Posted at 2018-5-9 04:31
The Olympus 45mm has been a fantastic lens for me. I really love it for getting urban shots that look like you're up close and personal when you're actually safely back over a park or vacant lot. After reading this post I will be looking into the Olympus 25mm. I've had times where the default DJI lens was too wide but the Olympus 45mm was too tight. I may have to add to my bag of tricks. Thanks YoYoMan for the poll.

Cobra, Also consider the 17mm Oly. I Really like the 25 and I've also got the 45. If I had to choose again I may have gone for the 17 rather than the 45. As you say, 45 is a great lens, but quite limited in when & where to use it.

Oly 25mm is fine for video, but for still photography chromatic aberration is really bad with contrast objects like urban landscapes. For that reason I prefer more expensive Oly 12mm. Oly 45mm - for change - gives me slight magenta tint, particularly difficult to correct in post.

Matthew Dobrski Posted at 2018-5-10 14:36
Oly 25mm is fine for video, but for still photography chromatic aberration is really bad with contrast objects like urban landscapes. For that reason I prefer more expensive Oly 12mm. Oly 45mm - for change - gives me slight magenta tint, particularly difficult to correct in post.

I've also ran into issues with the magenta tint.  I bought a Lee Filter CC05 Green and a CC10 Green filter out of Samy's Camera in Los Angeles and cut it out and put the best one behind the ND filter depending on the lens and conditions.

Don't understand why DJI is about the only maker of digital video cameras who doesn't have a Magenta/Green adjustment in the camera controls for what it costs to set the Manual White Balance correctly.

fansa84fe8a4 Posted at 2018-5-11 06:24
I've also ran into issues with the magenta tint.  I bought a Lee Filter CC05 Green and a CC10 Green filter out of Samy's Camera in Los Angeles and cut it out and put the best one behind the ND filter depending on the lens and conditions.

Don't understand why DJI is about the only maker of digital video cameras who doesn't have a Magenta/Green adjustment in the camera controls for what it costs to set the Manual White Balance correctly.

Well, the coloration and chromatic aberration issues are more noticeable with cheaper lenses. This is particularly true with older X5 camera. Luckily X5S is equipped with vastly improved sensor and colour rendering capabilities. However, really good lenses in this format cost well above 1K and ... simply doesn't fit. That's why professionals are using M600 to carry advanced camera systems.

Hi,
I'm interested in 45mm, 25mm and 14-42mm, to use with X5S for Photography

* 45mm + X5S: Can the magenta tint issue be enough corrected with LR or do I realy need to add Green filter?
* 25mm + X5S: Does the Chromatic Aberration also appears with X5S? Can we enough correct it in post prod? could you share picture ?
* 14-42mm + X5S : I'm realy afraid about distortion with the Panasonic 14-42mm since I've seen a STRONG distortion with Olym 14-42.... Has someone ever experienced Panasonic 14-42mmand notice(or not) strong distortion?

Thanks for help !!

fansdb6ff1f7 Posted at 2018-5-9 10:06
Cobra, Also consider the 17mm Oly. I Really like the 25 and I've also got the 45. If I had to choose again I may have gone for the 17 rather than the 45. As you say, 45 is a great lens, but quite limited in when & where to use it.

Could you explain why 17 > 25mm ?
Do you mean for Video use or Photography or both?

Thanks

fansa84fe8a4 Posted at 2018-5-11 06:24
I've also ran into issues with the magenta tint.  I bought a Lee Filter CC05 Green and a CC10 Green filter out of Samy's Camera in Los Angeles and cut it out and put the best one behind the ND filter depending on the lens and conditions.

Don't understand why DJI is about the only maker of digital video cameras who doesn't have a Magenta/Green adjustment in the camera controls for what it costs to set the Manual White Balance correctly.

What color profile are you using? if it's D Cinelike that has more a magenta tint built in. If you shoot a color chart, the primary and secondary colors are not close on the vectorscope. I am now using "Art" profile as the primary and secondary vectors are closer and so is the white balance. 5600 is very close to 5600 with "Art"

epicjib Posted at 2018-5-13 14:53
What color profile are you using? if it's D Cinelike that has more a magenta tint built in. If you shoot a color chart, the primary and secondary colors are not close on the vectorscope. I am now using "Art" profile as the primary and secondary vectors are closer and so is the white balance. 5600 is very close to 5600 with "Art"

Doesn't matter, but I normally use Natural/Normal.  I use a color temperature meter to set initially the Manual White Balance.

Shooting at a gray card, the green channel is weak in the Histogram that's within GO as shown below.  If I use a green CC10 filter, it balances out and the RGB values become one.  If I use Auto White Balance, all three line up as they should, but flying with Auto causes shifts depending on where the lens is looking.  Some lens are a lot different that others too.

DJI made an error not to include the Magenta/Green slider in GO as this varies and even software like Lightroom has Magenta/Green slider that corrects for some of it although editing software often has oddities in what values they select and not all agree as to what Kelvin is correct either.  Most all cameras have the ability to set the correction for Kelvin along with Magenta?Green except DJI.

One that intrigues me are cameras that allow you to take a White Balance reading off a neutral card, and then lock it into memory.  If DJI's Auto White Balance were able to do that so the RGB values remained for the flight duration it might help even without the M/G slider.  I'm tired of seeing "burple" tints in some shadows and clouds as with their current design.  Garbage in. Garbage out.



DJI has made promises to fix this, but years go by....  "Coming soon..."  

fansa84fe8a4 Posted at 2018-5-14 06:12
Doesn't matter, but I normally use Natural/Normal.  I use a color temperature meter to set initially the Manual White Balance.

Shooting at a gray card, the green channel is weak in the Histogram that's within GO as shown below.  If I use a green CC10 filter, it balances out and the RGB values become one.  If I use Auto White Balance, all three line up as they should, but flying with Auto causes shifts depending on where the lens is looking.  Some lens are a lot different that others too.

I completely agree with you on all of this. I just found "art" to be a little closer than all the other profiles for WB at 5600 without resorting to filters. But this is still a huge problem. DJI what is your take on this issue? Some samples of  my gray-scale chart.   

On my x5s olympus 14 42 great lens !

Laowa 7.5mm, not listed, full manual, still prefer this lens though.

Does anyone know if the balancing ring for the Zenmuse X5S Olympus M. Zuiko 12mm / 2.0, 17mm / 1.8, 25mm / 1.8 is the same as for Panasonic 15mm, F / 1.7 ASPH,  measurements and weight?

According to the photos, I think these balancing rings are the same BR 46-10

https://store.dji.com/product/ze ... cing-ring?vid=21751

Thx 4 reply!

fansa84fe8a4 Posted at 5-14 06:12
Doesn't matter, but I normally use Natural/Normal.  I use a color temperature meter to set initially the Manual White Balance.

Shooting at a gray card, the green channel is weak in the Histogram that's within GO as shown below.  If I use a green CC10 filter, it balances out and the RGB values become one.  If I use Auto White Balance, all three line up as they should, but flying with Auto causes shifts depending on where the lens is looking.  Some lens are a lot different that others too.

I was told by DJI beta team when I was testing the .0300 FW that they were already testing IQ of X5S with M/G slider in new Manual WB setting to be implemented in soon to be released GO4. I have been pushing hard for this for almost a year and it looks like DJI has finally listened....

Bronteman Posted at 12-2 15:21
I was told by DJI beta team when I was testing the .0300 FW that they were already testing IQ of X5S with M/G slider in new Manual WB setting to be implemented in soon to be released GO4. I have been pushing hard for this for almost a year and it looks like DJI has finally listened....

Fingers crossed!

GO 5 maybe....

Bronteman Posted at 12-2 15:21
I was told by DJI beta team when I was testing the .0300 FW that they were already testing IQ of X5S with M/G slider in new Manual WB setting to be implemented in soon to be released GO4. I have been pushing hard for this for almost a year and it looks like DJI has finally listened....

Hope it arrives soon, together with a new December firmware that gives X5S ProRes RAW.

Any news on those magenta sliders in GoApp?

ambassador1 Posted at 2018-9-17 09:24
Laowa 7.5mm, not listed, full manual, still prefer this lens though.

Me too, definitely the laowa

fansdb6ff1f7 Posted at 2018-5-8 02:38
Oly 25mm is pin sharp with incredible depth

Show pictures.

AntDX316 Posted at 10-12 17:39
Show pictures.

fansdb6ff1f7 Posted at 10-15 03:59
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Give a link to the raw file.

My personal top is
Olympus M.Zuiko 12mm 2.0.
Olympus M.Zuiko 45mm 1.8.
Lumix 15mm 1.7.

fansdb6ff1f7 Posted at 2018-5-9 10:06
Cobra, Also consider the 17mm Oly. I Really like the 25 and I've also got the 45. If I had to choose again I may have gone for the 17 rather than the 45. As you say, 45 is a great lens, but quite limited in when & where to use it.

A bit late to the party, but what do you think of the Oly 25mm vs 17mm?  I’m looking to get a 45mm and have the option to possibly get a 17 mm as well. Right now I just have the stock DJI lens and a 14-42. I would like to eventually have the Oly 12, 45, and either 25 or 17mm (or maybe both).

Matthew Dobrski Posted at 2018-5-10 14:36
Oly 25mm is fine for video, but for still photography chromatic aberration is really bad with contrast objects like urban landscapes. For that reason I prefer more expensive Oly 12mm. Oly 45mm - for change - gives me slight magenta tint, particularly difficult to correct in post.

I found the magenta shift to be horrible with a uv filter on x5s.  I only use ND 16's now to avoid this and it has worked.

MedicFL1 Posted at 10-26 01:34
I found the magenta shift to be horrible with a uv filter on x5s.  I only use ND 16's now to avoid this and it has worked.

ND filter will always introduce some coloration to the image, either warming or cooling. It's unavoidable and unpredictable, different for every brand and density value, more or less obvious.

Matthew Dobrski Posted at 10-26 13:26
ND filter will always introduce some coloration to the image, either warming or cooling. It's unavoidable and unpredictable, different for every brand and density value, more or less obvious.

I had made the fatal mistake of thinking that stacking a UV on after a ND16 would be fine as a balance tool.
I did not have the extra BR 6 with me so I used the UV filter to help balance.
I do not recommend doing this.

Pidge Posted at 2018-11-28 05:49
Does anyone know if the balancing ring for the Zenmuse X5S Olympus M. Zuiko 12mm / 2.0, 17mm / 1.8, 25mm / 1.8 is the same as for Panasonic 15mm, F / 1.7 ASPH,  measurements and weight?

According to the photos, I think these balancing rings are the same BR 46-10

My X5S is on the way but this is confusing to me this morning.  The below chart is from the DJI X5S page.  I go down to the specs section and it shows no ring for Oly 25mm or both on the 45mm.  I looked somewhere else and it say either use or don't use the ring when using a filter.  I've not found any clear tutorial on any of this.

olympus 45mm

The ND Filters can be used in place of a Balancing ring when it is of comparable weight in grams.
However, as the gentlemen above have stated, They can and DO introduce color variations to your  project.
I was shooting with an Olympus 45mm Prime and used a UV (KN Brand) Filter as a final front balancing weight and wound up with a Magenta shift on all the footage.
ND Filters as a rule should be made of quality optics and not Plastic as I'm sure you all know. Just be careful to read the specs when buying.
I would also suggest TEST shots before the start of a long day to be sure it's (the ND Filter) going to cause you a lot of hassle later in your NLE.
I use Davinci Resolve Studio and shoot a lot of D-Log but still, it's a PITA to spend time getting the color shifts out of your work.

Faster than about 2.0 or so, the Panasonic 25mm 1.4 is really nice

PANASONIC 14-42mm

It mostly depends from what kind of photos you take and of course, money..but the best compromise is the Olympus 25mm..
My case is landscape/panorama photos and I’m used to the P4P 24mm, so no big difference in term of view with the 25mm.. of course apart of sensor and quality!

Olympus 12/2