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phantom3791
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Hi Guys .
I need your help: with DJI Pilot (the last version 1.0.1 android  and 1.1.ios ) for Android and for Iphone I cannot set the 4K 30fps and also 1080p 60fps, The maximun I can set is 25 fps for 4K and 50 fps for 1080p.
Do you suggest me what to do?
Note that I have the last version firmware 1.08

Second question: I have Epson Moverio BT200 is Android appliance to see in first person view like the fatshark. Did someone of you use it with Phantom 3 and its DJI Pilot Application?
I used it with my previous Phantom 2 Vision Plus with its application Dji Vision and I would like to use it with my new Phantom 3 Professional and its new application.

Many thanks for your kind help.
2015-5-17
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Ulysse
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25/50 or 30/60 fps is the difference between PAL and NTSC.
2015-5-17
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gil
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As Ulysse pointed out there are differences between PAL and NTSC.  And there are two settings for 4k -- use the lower 4k setting (3840x2160) to get the 30fps.  


From the P3P spec page:
Phantom 3 Professional
UHD:
  4096x2160p 24/25,
  3840x2160p 24/25/30
FHD:
  1920x1080p 24/25/30/48/50/60
HD:
  1280x720p 24/25/30/48/50/60
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phantom3791
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thanks guys for your kind reply. Anyway i try the lower 4k setting 3840x2160 but i can't select 30 fps only 24 e 25 fps.

nobody use the epson moverio ?? I'm Alone ??

2015-5-18
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Your in PAL, you need to change to NTSC under camera settings, if you find it won't chance reset camera settings and then try again .
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phantom3791
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ok i'll try .thx
2015-5-19
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I'm having the same problem. There is no "NTSC setting" that I can see. Does anyone have the steps to get there?
2015-5-24
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caucasus_raider Posted at 2015-5-25 07:54
I'm having the same problem. There is no "NTSC setting" that I can see. Does anyone have the steps t ...

Yes,

1. Tab the Camera Settings in the Pilot App (note, you have to have your Phantom and remote turned on and connected to your device). Camera Settings is the button above the Shutter button.

2. Tab "More" and scroll down to NTSC/PAL.

It does not matter that you're in a part of the world that use(d?) PAL or NTSC. Those are references to the TV-standards that only vaguely have meaning today with digital video. If you produce for yourself I'd select NTSC. If you produce for something specific that use 25 fps or perhaps even 24 fps (cinema), pick that.

I use NTSC and shoot almost exclusively in 4K 30fps

PS: When you are in the Camera Settings, make sure your "Over Exposure Warning" is turned ON - that way you get "zebra stripes" to indicate when your image is overexposed. That part of the image will be 100% white with no detail so usually only allow a little bit (10% or lower?) to be overexposed (reflections, the sun).

Feel free to ask more questions, I'll be happy to (try to) help.
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phantom3791 Posted at 2015-5-19 03:45
thanks guys for your kind reply. Anyway i try the lower 4k setting 3840x2160 but i can't select 30 f ...

On the DJI web site, there is a FAQ. One of the items covered in the FAQ is supported devices for iOS and Android.
2015-5-25
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chrisclaydon
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Turn on screen mirroring on bt 200 then do same on android device  

Thats wot i do on my Tab S and bt 200's
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I'm considering getting the BT-200's for use with the P3.  Any response on how you find them, if you would recommend them?

I was very wary since i read the BT-200's run android 4.0 and the min requirements for the pilot app are Android 4.1.2 or later...  Can you run the pilot app on these?
2015-5-25
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ianbradbury34@h Posted at 2015-5-26 01:52
I'm considering getting the BT-200's for use with the P3.  Any response on how you find them, if you ...

ok... The short story is....

Good....

" I love them. So much better to fly FPV and keep line of sight" "They work very very well in full sun light."

" Don't like fatsharks for example as u cant see the quad or the world around you."

Bad....

$$$

Some lag, but very useable. I'm seeing lag in the TAB S I feel.

Yes BT-200's wont run DJI pilot app. OS too old. So I just use the Miracast function from TAB s to Bt-200's.

My BT-200's are totally stock. (Not Rooted)

Regs Chris
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chrisclaydon@bi Posted at 2015-5-26 05:11
ok... The short story is....

Good....

Thanks.

I think these are ideal for flying and complying with our LOS regs, but still having the ability to frame shots in bright sunlight.  A bit of lag is not a major issue, but how much lag are you getting?  Seconds, or fractions of a second?

Do you get any issue with having the wi-fi on while you're flying?

I have a Galaxy Note 8 so I'm expecting Miracast to be fine with the combo.

One last thing....do you have any experience using the BT-200's with spectacles?  I'm a tad worried about that since I need correction to see distances but my close vision is fine...

Thanks for any opinions you can offer.
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I'm also going to add that I have just seen this http://www.splashtop.com/epson-s ... take-hd-video-photo article that allows mirroring of iOS apps to the BT-200's.

I use Splashtop as a regular mirroring service for my PC's to tablet (which is why I noticed the news) and it works fine, so I'm hopeful this will also work without too much lag...
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ianbradbury34@h Posted at 2015-5-26 13:27
Thanks.

I think these are ideal for flying and complying with our LOS regs, but still having the  ...

Well lag is not counted in seconds fortunately hehe!.... much less that .2 of a second... but I some of the lag is on the TAB. So this not helping. Still a work in progress for me..  

But people at my flying club have offered me $ to take them off my hands, but I won't part with them. I very much like them for fpv flying.  

I have no issues with miracast effecting  to PH3. (wifi)..... gone to 800meters and still had full signal.. so the app said anyhow.

The bt200 come with blank frames so u can get your own glasses installed..

Regs Chris
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ianbradbury34@h Posted at 2015-5-26 14:25
I'm also going to add that I have just seen this http://www.splashtop.com/epson-smart-glass-combined ...

Now that's cool... is it ready for ios devices yet?
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Thanks for the opinion...I've ordered them!  The splashtop app is specifically to enable ios device mirroring I think.  And it's not just a mirroring, it will also interaction through the Moverios touchpad I think, too.

I'll let you know how I get on with them once I get them.  Amazon.it says delivery Friday, just ready for the weekend! ;-)
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ianbradbury34@h Posted at 2015-5-27 13:38
Thanks for the opinion...I've ordered them!  The splashtop app is specifically to enable ios device  ...

Well news here on the mirroring 360 app... testing and testing

News not good at this point..

iPhone 6+, BT 200's... and dji pilot app... hangs, freezing, lag as long as your arm..

Even in just moving around in iphone very slow and playing videos on iphone very slow and lags behind..

Now ive tried thIs on 3 dIffrent wifi locations and connecting using iphones hotphotspot.  All the same result.

So i have made contact with the guys from mirroring360 and asked for help and setup info..

At this point in time miracast on android and bt 200's is much better. Mim delay.

Will keep u guys up to date on any more developments

Regs Chris  
2015-5-27
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ianbradbury34
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I received my BT-200's today.  Two day delivery, Amazon.it I'm impressed!

Now to charge them...
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FantomDK Posted at 2015-5-25 15:51
Yes,

1. Tab the Camera Settings in the Pilot App (note, you have to have your Phantom and remote ...

I see your helpful replies everywhere! Thank you for your contributions!
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ianbradbury34@h Posted at 2015-5-26 14:25
I'm also going to add that I have just seen this http://www.splashtop.com/epson-smart-glass-combined ...

Hi I would be very intrested to hear how u got on with Splashot... ?

I did not get it to work at all with videos. iPhone screen mirror did work, but very slow.

I logged a call with Splashot and this is the answer i got.

"
HiChris,

Sorry,the lag/latency is directly related to the AP on the remote control. Airplay does not allow you to change the resolution setting so with aniPhone6+, it streams the iPhone6+ resolution which will be pretty high for theAP.  If you try using an iPhone5 or iPhone6, you probably will see less lag. To reduce the bandwidth used, you might try to reduce the resolution ofthe camera that goes through the remote control.
Regards,
Victor
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This answer makes no sense to me

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ianbradbury34
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I've used the BT-200's a couple of times.  I like them.  I'm not sure I €700 like them, but they are good.  For phantom flying, for my taste, I get too many app crashes and loss of connection, but as video viewing they are awesome.  I need to play more on the phantom set up to get them optimal, I guess...
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jamesmcleandev@ Posted at 2015-6-9 03:58
I see your helpful replies everywhere! Thank you for your contributions!

Thanks a lot, James. Lets help each other in whatever way we can.
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Ok guys...

If using Android?  I find built in mirroring working fine..

But today i tested a iphone 6+ with the following airplay app for android on the bt 200's

http://www.waxrain.com
Airpin pro app  

Working great also..

Very happy now.

Shoot thru questions u may have  

Regs Chris

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More testing today...

Iphone 6+

Apple... Airplay

Dlink DIR-510L as my field router...
http://www.dlink.com.au/home-sol ... -router-and-charger

Bt 200's

Airshare app on bt 200's

Used the stock apple airplay to mirror to the BT 200's....

1.1.9 fw

Worked great..  flew two batt packs back to back no problems.

Regs Chris
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Epson BT-200 and iPhone 6+ setup...

FYI Guys...

ok... here you go..

1. Download Airpin Pro app from Waxrain. (or Amazon app store, I did it this way.)
2. Install Airpin pro on the BT 200's
3. Restart Bt 200's and the airpin pro app starts automatically.
4. Connect both Bt 200's and your Apple device to the DLink DIR-510L AC750 router via wifi.
5. Startup Airplay on your apple device ( swipe up from bottom of screen)
6. Select your Bt 200 device from Apple airplay
7. Select screen mirroring.
8. Start DJI app

your away...

I tested last night with two full flights (+40) mins with out any problems...

I had to do this as my Android device (TAB S) wont work at this time due to the firmware problems and video lag in the app.

using my iPhone 6+

I use the Dlink DIR-510L as its AC750 speeds and is portable...

http://us.dlink.com/products/connect/wi-fi-ac750-portable-router-and-charger-3/

Any questions? please just ask.

Regs Chris
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phantom3791 Posted at 2015-5-19 03:45
thanks guys for your kind reply. Anyway i try the lower 4k setting 3840x2160 but i can't select 30 f ...

Moverio is working on solutions to enable pilots to use the BT-200 with the Phantom 3 and Inspire so watch for announcements.  Once solution soon to be announced is an HDMI box for the BT-200.  This box will connect to the HDMI output of the controller for the Inspire 1 and as DJI has mentioned that the Inspire 1 controller will be updated to be able to work with the Phantom 3 this may be the ticket to getting your BT-200 working.

I have a BT-200 app but so far have been unable to get the USB connection with the Phantom 3 to connect.  If DJI fixes the incompatibilities then you may see apps for the BT-200 and Phantom 3, Inspire 1 and Matrix 100.
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kenargo Posted at 2015-6-26 06:29
Moverio is working on solutions to enable pilots to use the BT-200 with the Phantom 3 and Inspire  ...

HDMI box for the moverio?  Yes please.
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ianbradbury34@h Posted at 2015-6-29 17:54
HDMI box for the moverio?  Yes please.

Hello everybody,

I myself have the BT-200 and an iPhone 6 or the Samsung Tab S 8.4. The Samsung tablet is currently unusable because of Android problems.

I currently try the following approach in order to avoid an external router:

* Setting iPhone / cellular iPad as a hotspot
* On the BT-200: http://www.waxrain.com Airpin Pro app
* Connect BT-200 with iPhone Hotspot
* Connect BT-200 via AirPlay

Yesterday I got a sucessful connect. Test flights are still missing. I will report ...

cheers
Marco
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chrisclaydon@bi Posted at 2015-6-16 06:42
Epson BT-200 and iPhone 6+ setup...

FYI Guys...

Tested this today.

:-(

Constant disconnections, had to stop using the BT-200's and rely on the iphone.

...bit disappointed.  Had similar disconnections using screen mirroring from my Samsung Note, was hoping it would be better with the iphone...
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My BT-200's work fine with both the Mirroring app on my TAB S or Apple's Airplay... Once connected? Never had a disconnect like you are having...

Can u send thru the details of your BT-200's? (Version number)
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ianbradbury34@h Posted at 2015-6-29 17:54
HDMI box for the moverio?  Yes please.

I'll post more once I see more information.  I've heard it's coming soon, like within a month or 2 so time will tell...
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chrisclaydon@bi Posted at 2015-6-30 05:38
My BT-200's work fine with both the Mirroring app on my TAB S or Apple's Airplay... Once connected ...

The model number says embt2.
Android 4.0.4
Build No. R1.1.2
Kernel 3.0.21-00003-OMAP-Android+
R1.1.2@H560#1

I've no idea what half of that means..
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I had success yesterday!

Using Airdrop and with the BT-200's connected to the iphone's hotspot.  I think that is the way forward!
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I just ordered the following : Moverio BT-200 + HDMI mirracast (since i also bought the HDMI out option for my remote controller).

As soon as i will receive those, i will report, but i will certainly also test the WaxRain + iPhone 6+ hotspot.
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ianbradbury34@h Posted at 2015-7-3 03:01
The model number says embt2.
Android 4.0.4
Build No. R1.1.2

Ianbradbury...if you still aren't able to get a stable mirroring connection there is one more alternative solution you can persue.   Because you have the retail version of the BT200s (Build No. R1.1.2) you can connect the glasses to a wireless adapter.  Epson sells this wireless mirroring adapter (Model EHDMC10) and it connects to the HDMI out of the Inspire's controller.  You can run anHDMI cable (mini - regular sized) from the controller to the wireless mirroring adapter that then sends the signal to the BT200.  I've have found the connection (once it connects) to be stable and almost lagless.  Unfortunately this adapter is difficult to find (I believe I saw it on one of Epson's European websites) but they were included if you purchased the BT200-AV package.  Before going this route I'd suggest you try a couple of the Mirrorcast / Airplay programs because I got differing results with each one.  It was my third combination try that I finally found a stable low latency connection using airplay from my iPhone 6+.  

Good Luck
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KnightOwl Posted at 2015-8-10 12:34
Ianbradbury...if you still aren't able to get a stable mirroring connection there is one more alter ...

Thanks for the input Knightowl.  I'm going to try some other combinations as you suggest, because at the moment using the iphone 6 and airplay I get quite a lag, freezing, and complete crash after 5 mins or so.  So much so that I'm on the verge of giving up with the BT-200's (which I otherwise love!).  I will persevere and get the wireless mirroring adapter (or the fabled hdmi adapter) as a last resort.
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ianbradbury34@h Posted at 2015-8-10 14:57
Thanks for the input Knightowl.  I'm going to try some other combinations as you suggest, because  ...

I think you will find the price tag of $1595 will put you of the "fabled HDMI adaptor", it did me!!
here is the link anyway

http://colorado-video.com/hi-def-moverio-interface/
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I'm having trouble with Airdrop.
The first 5 mins are fine (bit choppy but useable) but then the airdrop app errors with a message something like 'this copy of airdrop is not licensed (or authorized or something similar)' and the connection breaks...
Where do I get a licensed copy, I'm happy to pay.
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Colorado Video's Moverio Video Interface

For Epson's BT-200's

http://colorado-video.com/moveri ... nterface-prices.htm

$500
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