FCC CE where on earth are the borders?
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Onbekommerd
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I bought my MA in the Netherlands, so it was no surprise that it 'selected' CE mode.
I then travelled to Slovakia. I got a 'change of area' warning, clicked OK but still CE. OK, Slovakia is EU so no big surprse there.

Now I am in South Africa. Again got the 'change of area'. But I am still in CE mode (13 * 2.6GHz WiFi channels).

So my question is: is CE sort of a 'default' which is only channged when you are located in the US? Is South Africa imposing the same limits as the EU ("CE")?

I know there is a hack where you can 'fool' the MA to think it is in the US. But you need an Android phone for that and I (and most people I know) have Apple.


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Hello there. Thank you for reaching DJI Forum for your query. In regards to the transmission power, that will be set automatically.
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Onbekommerd
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DJI Wanda Posted at 2018-8-5 07:58
Hello there. Thank you for reaching DJI Forum for your query. In regards to the transmission power, that will be set automatically.

Yes Wanda, I know that! I am trying to establish what other regions apart from the EU are ‘CE country’.
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Curious, how do you know what mode the MA is currently in?
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Onbekommerd Posted at 2018-8-5 08:28
Yes Wanda, I know that! I am trying to establish what other regions apart from the EU are ‘CE country’.

We don't actually have a specific list of countries or regions that says it has to be FCC or CE. It is automatically detected by the signal.
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Suren
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South africa is CE and it sucks, you can force FCC if you want
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As I know mainly US use FCC others are most CE.
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The MA can only select from the following regions

FCC
CE
SRRC and
MIC

CE seams to be the catch all if it doesn't explicitly fall into the other 3, this is a common complain and if local laws permit you could easily trick the drone into FCC mode.

Also each time you start the drone in a new country it will ask you to change even if the mode isn't going to e.g. if you went from Netherlands to Belgium etc
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Onbekommerd Posted at 2018-8-5 08:28
Yes Wanda, I know that! I am trying to establish what other regions apart from the EU are ‘CE country’.

It's actually the opposite - Its basically FCC or CE which means "rest of world".

Outside the US you're going to be on CE mode.  Most countries have agreed on standard powers for that band and most agreed on a lower power than the FCC allows.
There are also SRRC,MIC and other regions but these also use CE power requirements.

FCC is the outlier here.  So not in america == "CE" power.
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gnirtS Posted at 2018-8-6 02:23
It's actually the opposite - Its basically FCC or CE which means "rest of world".

Outside the US you're going to be on CE mode.  Most countries have agreed on standard powers for that band and most agreed on a lower power than the FCC allows.

Thank you, that is very helpful information and it explains what I am experiencing.
Now I just need to find an Android phone to do the hack (and remember to say 'cancel' or 'no' or whatever the case may be every time I start the drone).
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Or just stay legal?
They came to those power decisions for good reasons.

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DJI Wanda Posted at 2018-8-5 07:58
Hello there. Thank you for reaching DJI Forum for your query. In regards to the transmission power, that will be set automatically.

Good to know it will be set automatically.
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gnirtS Posted at 2018-8-6 03:04
Or just stay legal?
They came to those power decisions for good reasons.

One wonders about these 'good reasons'. Why would the higher power be safe in the US but not in South Africa? Especially if the low power (CE) is the default and not neccessarily a requirement of the country concerned.
As long as I can use the 2.6GHz WiFi band I am ok with CE in VLOS.
But if - due to interference - I have to use 5.8GHz, my range gets ridiculously low and it complains continuously and I have had several disconnects at 250m and less.
I would much rather be legal (and not have all these workarounds). But usability has its requirements too.
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Suren Posted at 2018-8-5 19:40
South africa is CE and it sucks, you can force FCC if you want

Hi. Users cannot switch between FCC and CE manually. The remote controller will enable FCC or CE mode based on your location in accordance with local laws and regulations.
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·        United States/FCC
·        Canada/ISED or IC:
·        Europe/CE
·        Japan/MIC:
·        Korea/KCC:
·        Taiwan/NCC:
·        China/SRRC:
·        Australia/RCM
·        New Zealand (RSM)
·        Brazil (Anatel)
Countries Following the CE Standard EU countries, ETFA countries:
Iceland, Norway, Switzerland (and Liechtenstein), French DOMs, Guadeloupe, Martinique, French Guiana, Reunion, Afghanistan, Andorra, Georgia, Gibraltar, Maldives, Monaco, San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Seychelles, Vatican City, Faroe Islands, Greenland, Svalbard, Azores, Madeira, Canary Islands, Guernsey, Jersey, Isle of Man, Montserrat, and Pit-cairn Islands.
Source: https://www.silabs.com/documents/public/application-notes/an1048-regulatory-certifications.pdf
Power ouput:
SRRC (Mainland China) / CE (Europe) / MIC (Japan) / KCC (Korea): < 20 dBm.
FCC (United States, Australia) / NCC (Taiwan, China): < 26 dBm
Source: https://flycampro.vn/products/d-rtk-2-high-precision-gnss-mobile-station-phantom4-rtk-eu
Rest of the world:
   
Country
   
Certification
Requires
Angola
INACOM
CE
Algeria
APRT
CE
Anguilla (Great   Britain)
Public   Utilities Commission of Anguilla
FCC
Antigua and   Barbuda
Ministry of   information Broadcasting and Telecommunications
FCC / CE
Argentina
Ente Nacional   de Communications (ENACOM)
   
Armenia
Public Services   Regulatory Commission
FCC / CE
Aruba
Directie   Telecommunicatiezaken
FCC / CE
Azerbaijan
MCIT
CE
Bahamas
URCA
FCC
Bahrain
DWLFM (TRA for   WWAN)
FCC / CE
Bangdelash
BTRC
   
Barbados
Prime   Minister’s Office Telecommunications Unit
FCC / CE
Belarus
Ministry of   Communications and Information
CE
Belize
PUC
FCC / CE
Benin
ATRPT
FCC / CE
Bermuda
DOT
FCC
Bolivia
ATT
FCC / CE
Bonaire, Saba,   and Saint Eustatis
Agentschap   Telecom
FCC / CE
Botswana
BOCRA
CE
British Virgin   Islands
TRC
FCC
Brunei
AITI
FCC / CE
Burkina Faso
ARCEP
FCC / CE
Burundi
ARCT
CE
Cambodia
MPTC
FCC / CE
Cameroon
ART
CE
Cape Verde
ANAC
FCC / CE
Central African   Republic
ART
CE
Chad
OTRT
CE
Chile
SUBTLE
FCC / CE
Colombia
CRC
FCC / CE
Costa Rica
SUTEL
FCC / CE
Côte d’Ivoire   (Ivory Coast)
ARTCI
CE
Curacao
BTP
FCC / CE
Ecuador
Agencia de   Regulación y Control de las Telecomunicaciones (ARCOTEL)
   
Egypt
NTRA
FCC / CE
El Salvador
SIGET
FCC
Equatorial   Guinea
ORTEL
FCC / CE
Ethiopia
MCIT
CE
Fiji
TAF
CE
French   Polynesia
ANFR
CE
Gabon
ARCEP
FCC / CE
Gambia
PURA
FCC / CE
Ghana
NCA
FCC / CE
Grenada
NTRC
FCC / CE
Guatemaia
SIT
FCC
Guinea
ARPT GUINEE
CE
República da   Guiné-Bissau
ARN
CE
Guyana
PUC
FCC
Haiti
CONATEL
FCC / CE
Honduras
CONATEL
FCC
Hong Kong
OFCA
FCC / CE
India
WPC
FCC / CE
Indonesia
SDPPI
CE
Iraq
CMC
CE
Israel
MOC
CE
Jamaica
SMA
FCC / CE
Jordon
TRC
CE
Kenya
CAK
FCC / CE
Kiribati
CCK
FCC / CE
Kuwait
Communications   and Information Technology Regulatory Authority (CITRA)
CE
Kyrgyzstan
State   Communication Agency under the Government of the Kyrgyz Republic
CE
Lebanon
MOT
CE
Lesotho
LCA
CE
Liberia
LTA
FCC / CE
Libya
Ministry of   Communications and Informatics
FCC / CE
Madagascar
OMERT
CE
Malawi
MACRA
FCC / CE
Malaysia
SIRIM
FCC / CE
Maldives
CAM
FCC / CE
Mali
AMRTP
CE
Mauritania
Autorité de   régulation de la Mauritanie
CE
Mauritius
ICTA
CE
Mexico
IFETEL
   
Moldova
ANRCETI
CE
Mongolia
CMC
CE
Montserrat
ICA
FCC
Morocco
ANRT
CE
Mozambique
INCM
FCC / CE
Namibia
Communications   Regulatory Authority of Namibia (CRAN)
FCC / CE
Nepal
NTA
FCC / CE
New Caledonia
ANF
CE
New Zealand
RSM
CE
Nicaragua
TELCOR
FCC / CE
Niger
ARTP
FCC / CE
Nigeria
NCC
FCC / CE
Oman
TRA
CE
Pakistan
PTA
FCC / CE
Palestine
PNA
CE
Panama
ASEP
FCC / CE
Papua New   Guinea
NICTA
FCC / CE
Paraguay
CONATEL
FCC / CE
Peru
MTC
FCC / CE
Philippines
NTC
FCC / CE
Qatar
ICT
FCC / CE
Russia
FAC
CE
Rwanda
RURA
CE
Saint Kitts and   Nevis
NTRC
FCC / CE
Saint Lucia
NTRC
FCC / CE
Saint Vincent   and the Grenadines
NTRC
FCC / CE
Samoa
Office of the   Regulator
FCC / CE
Saudi Arabia
CITC
CE
Senegal
ARTP
CE
Serbia
KVALITET
CE
Seychelles
DICT
CE
Sierra Leone
NATCOM
FCC / CE
Singapore
IMDA
FCC / CE
Sint Maarten
Minister of   Tourism, Economics Affairs and Telecommunications
FCC
Solomon Islands
Telecommunications   Commission
   
of the Solomon   Islands
FCC / CE
South Africa
ICASA
CE
Sri Lanka
Telecommunications   Regulatory Commission of Sri Lanka
FCC / CE
Suriname
TAS
FCC / CE
Swaziland
SCCOM
CE
Taijikistan
Communication   Service under the Government of the Republic of Taijikistan
CE
Tanzania
TCRA
CE
Thailand
NBTC
FCC / CE
Togo
ARTP
CE
Tonga
Ministry of   Information & Communication (MIC)
FCC / CE
Trinidad and   Tobago
TATT
FCC / CE
Tunisia
Centre d’Etudes   et de Recherche des Telecommunications (CERT)
CE
Turkey
BTK
CE
Turkmenistan
TURKMENISTANYN   SERTIFIKATLASDYRYS ULGAMY
CE
Turks and   Caicos Island
Telecommunications   Commission
FCC
Uganda
UCC
CE
Ukraine
State   Department of Communications of Ukraine
CE
United Arab   Emirates
TRA
CE
Uruguay
URSEC
FCC / CE
Uzbekistan
TASHKENT
CE
Venezuela
CONATEL
FCC / CE
Vietnam
MIC
Based on   Certification Process
Yemen
Ministry of   Communications
CE
Zambia
ZICTA
CE
Zimbabwe
POTRAZ
CE
source:

https://www.sparklan.com/certifications/

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