Hi guys

I live in Europe (beglium), and i was wondering if its possible to chance CE to FCC mode with the PS3?

The simplest way is to take your Phantom to the USA where it will run in FCC mode.

Do a search on phantompilots.com.  Good luck

Hello there. Thank you for reaching DJI Forum. Please kindly note that users cannot switch between FCC and CE manually. The remote controller will enable FCC or CE mode based on your location in accordance with local laws and regulations.

If you are on android then use a fake gps app and switch from ce to fcc. In fcc you get much better quality signal and longer range. There are many videos on youtube how to do that.
Safe Flying

Alexey Batalov Posted at 2018-8-8 15:27
If you are on android then use a fake gps app and switch from ce to fcc. In fcc you get much better quality signal and longer range. There are many videos on youtube how to do that.
Safe Flying

Silly suggestion, obviously you do not know how the system works. It is the aircraft that uses its GPS to determine where the aircraft is situated, not the phone or tablet.

Geebax Posted at 2018-8-8 15:33
Silly suggestion, obviously you do not know how the system works. It is the aircraft that uses its GPS to determine where the aircraft is situated, not the phone or tablet.

Are you sure about that?

I have seen a few on here saying they have done it that way, fake gps etc with their P3's

I have also managed it with my P4P but not with fake GPS, you have to go a different route but its go 4 app based not drone and it defoo works......

Bashy Posted at 2018-8-8 21:05
Are you sure about that?

I have seen a few on here saying they have done it that way, fake gps etc with their P3's

It has to be the aircraft, as some tablets do not have GPS fitted. The aircraft always does.

Geebax Posted at 2018-8-8 21:26
It has to be the aircraft, as some tablets do not have GPS fitted. The aircraft always does.

This is a good point, but....

Although the ac is sending the gps to the app, its the app that spoofs it  in my case, not sure how the fake gps works but there are some well known members that are  using it alongside an older version of the app, its also the app that tells the controller i believe and its the controller that sets the CE/FCC mode

Please explain what those modes are as some of us aren't fluent in "drone-speak".

i changed my ce to fcc with icarus android app. ce where i live was 20 dbm and i changed rc and ac to 27 dbm and doubled my rang now i get 1.5 km on stock antenne and with windsurfer 1.8 km in the city so i am happy

Geebax Posted at 2018-8-8 15:33
Silly suggestion, obviously you do not know how the system works. It is the aircraft that uses its GPS to determine where the aircraft is situated, not the phone or tablet.

This gets interesting actually ...

Yes we know that the FW loaded to AC has a code line in it that sets FCC or CE based on GPS location. But the RC does not have that capability ... as it has no GPS.

BUT you can alter signal strength Dbm of RC and AC to be as FCC or even more in fact by Icarus or MP5.

This creates an interesting factor as the GPS is still reporting its location but now the RC and AC are wrongly set if swapped by Icarus or MP5.

Now just a moment before jumping on me ... I have been a user of Icarus and seen a few times an anomaly where .... I have enabled internet on the tablet to cache mapping .... BHAM ... the RC and AC are back to correct setting (RC and AC are powered up while I was cache'ing) .... and I have had to reset my user setting of FCC in a CE zone. I do add though that it was only a few times it happened and usually it did not. Its actually one of the main reasons I preferred Icarus ... it was resident on the Android ready for use at any time - unlike MP5 which sits on a PC.

That would suggest that it is more than just GPS of AC possibility to alter it.

Just commenting ...

Nigel

Geebax Posted at 2018-8-8 15:33
Silly suggestion, obviously you do not know how the system works. It is the aircraft that uses its GPS to determine where the aircraft is situated, not the phone or tablet.

The suggestion is nice but not complete. This trick was taken out for the P3SE. After the mode was converted to FCC, DJI Go 3.1.8 was used. This version of the app doesn't return the signal to CE. But I doubt if it works for a Phantom 3 Standard.

Nowadays there is plenty of use of a patched version of 3.1.18 (which remains constant in FCC mode).

solentlife Posted at 2018-8-13 08:42
This gets interesting actually ...

Yes we know that the FW loaded to AC has a code line in it that sets FCC or CE based on GPS location. But the RC does not have that capability ... as it has no GPS.

Surely the RC must be receiving GPS. If you use Follow Me mode the RC coordinates change with your new position as you move,as verified in flight log.

Just a thought........

Pleomax Posted at 2018-8-13 10:11
Surely the RC must be receiving GPS. If you use Follow Me mode the RC coordinates change with your new position as you move,as verified in flight log.

Just a thought........

The RC has no GPS receiver. For Follow Me it relies on the GPS in the phone or tabnlet (if it indeed has one).

solentlife Posted at 2018-8-13 08:42
This gets interesting actually ...

Yes we know that the FW loaded to AC has a code line in it that sets FCC or CE based on GPS location. But the RC does not have that capability ... as it has no GPS.

I have no idea how these cheat programs work, but I simply rationalise that the system would not be able to set the radio power output if it was done from the RC unit and the fitted device was an Apple product with no GPS capability.

Geebax Posted at 2018-8-13 15:33
I have no idea how these cheat programs work, but I simply rationalise that the system would not be able to set the radio power output if it was done from the RC unit and the fitted device was an Apple product with no GPS capability.

Wasnt there a remote that used to have the FCC/CE switch on it?

My ac did need to be connected to assitant whilst the setting of FCC was being done on the app (earlier version, wont dilvuge more in public) but  it is different for P4, defo my P4P, perhaps it was modifying thew fw too, not sure to be honest, was a while back, but its certainly not as simple as downloading i spoof app like it is for the earlier P's

The programs that alter the FCC / CE are modifying the line of code that has the GPS detection and therefore power setting. The code runs in the AC FW but also in the RC FW ...

With a WiFi P3S ... the Tablet (Icarus) will modify the RC code line and the AC code line to set the desired power level.

I believe that the act of having WiFi to the domestic connected, this disconnected the RC and AC from the tablet ... I cached maps ... then back to WiFI of the RC ...  it then reset the power ... BUT as I said this was only a few times and could have been an error or something that caused it.

Note also that Icarus and MP5 only modify the RC to/from AC WiFi power ... NOT the 5.8Ghz control power ...

Nigel

Bashy Posted at 2018-8-13 19:34
Wasnt there a remote that used to have the FCC/CE switch on it?

My ac did need to be connected to assitant whilst the setting of FCC was being done on the app (earlier version, wont dilvuge more in public) but  it is different for P4, defo my P4P, perhaps it was modifying thew fw too, not sure to be honest, was a while back, but its certainly not as simple as downloading i spoof app like it is for the earlier P's

Yes there was and the P3S controller still has the hole in the rear case for it ... even though the switch is no longer there.

Nigel

Thanks, that gives me a better understanding, i think it must be different for the p4p, I  another well known company has, to paraphrase "no limits" ;) modifies the ac fw and creates a whole new patched app set to FCC, i think thats how it worked for my p4p, so that too sounds like it forces the ac to fcc and also the app as well, not so sure why the app as well but it does need an older app, x.x.13 i think.  

How come ya in Hong Kong?

Hong Kong ? I travel the world in business.

......

Nigel

I changed from EC to FCC using a fake gps app on Android no problem.
Safe Flying.

But I have to say that it wasn’t a phantom. But still the fake gps app trick works.

Alex.