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Kyokushin Posted at 2015-6-16 02:24
But problem will appear when CPU in tablet is loaded in my case beyond 85%.
IF problem would be in  ...

Both sides of the coin are buggy !!! So we have a freaking problem and we need to stop flying till they fix both sides, good implementation of a flying camera but bad finish in my opinion.
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WE NEED TO ALL START DEMANDING REFUNDS!
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I install this new firmware , but not, the problem is the same.

When satellites is ZERO, all smooth, but when satellites is 8 or more, a lot of lag and pauses.

If a put my hand over the GPS and SAtellites down to ZERO, the smooth comes back.

The problem is not solved.
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Esto es para la comunidad hispana.......... DJI miarma, a ver cuando coño arreglas esto, que encima sacas un firmware que no arregla na, de hecho lo que se supone que arregla a nadie le habia fallado.

O sea, te dice un tio, o dos, que a ellos el video se le, graba mal, y le sacas un parche a ellos, y tienes aqui a 50 tios quejandose del lag, y no les das solucion.

Coño, al menos que en este fimware que acabas  de sacar, deberias haber desbloqueado la opcion de volver atras y dejarnos hacer un downgrade de los cojones.........

Nada, a ver si tenemos suerte y esta semana sale otro firmware, por que vamos, el 1.1.6 y el 1.1.8 que salieron con dos dias de diferencia y sin un simple changelog para leer........ que contendrian ??????? sospechoso al menos........

Y encima aqui mi colega el que trabaja para DJI, lleva tres dias probandolo y no dice ni mu, el cachondo.........

La proxima vez os voy a comprar un carajo bien gordo ( a ver si esto ultimo lo podeis reproducir en vuestro sistema, no como el lag...)
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leon Posted at 2015-6-15 01:25
That's because it's not the Apple platform that is the problem, it's the Android Platform!

That's not quite true, I have seen posts from people in this thread stating that their iPad minis also had issues. Also see post 432 that i responded to in my response above. I am NOT saying there is no issues with Android, but knowing if ALL IOS devices are impacted, or none or a few (and in that case which ones) might help troubleshooting.
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Willie Wonka Posted at 2015-6-16 01:54
The satellite calculator is inside the phantom not on the tablet or phone,  the tablet or phone ar ...

Sorry Mr. Wonka, IT IS NOT A THERMAL ISSUE, If it was, there would be a problem with 1.1.8!!! Now it could be a problem If the coding of the firmware or the Pilot App. AOS , whether its Kit-Kat or Lollipop is not the Issue either. It's up to the Application developer to wright there programs to work within the AOS version, ON ALL DEVICES!!
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//////////// BREAKING NEWS FOLKS /////////////

Stop and turn off 'Google Play Services (this crap: https://play.google.com/store/ap ... e.android.gms&hl=pl)
When i turned it off CPU load during flight with 12 satellites dropped from 85 to 55% !!!!!!!!!!!
This is workaround, not solution, but it might make you able to fly.



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Kyokushin Posted at 2015-6-16 03:41
//////////// BREAKING NEWS FOLKS /////////////

Stop and turn off 'Google Play Services (this crap:  ...

i killed all services on my Phone did not make any diferance at all
atleast not for the lag issue
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Kyokushin Posted at 2015-6-16 03:41
//////////// BREAKING NEWS FOLKS /////////////

Stop and turn off 'Google Play Services (this crap:  ...


Yesssssss! It's now better! But... no more maps. Anyway I will try to fly tomorrow. Great news.
I'm on kit kat now

THANK YOU!
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alessio.pac@gma Posted at 2015-6-16 03:56
Yesssssss! It's now better! But... no more maps. Anyway I will try to fly tomorrow. Great news.
I ...

what is beter cpu usage is down but how about the live view ?
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alessio.pac@gma Posted at 2015-6-16 03:56
Yesssssss! It's now better! But... no more maps. Anyway I will try to fly tomorrow. Great news.
I ...

Correction:
They are not working, but you can run DJI app with Google Play Services turned on, after running DJI switch to app manager and then disable them. And you will have a maps and low cpu usage.
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Kyokushin I kill google play services but it automatically reopens after a while...
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then disable, not kill
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Friends, left your tablet like a Zombie, is not the solution.

This problem caused by DJI´s firmware 1.1.9, must be solved by the same DJI.
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ben_m16 Posted at 2015-6-16 04:21
Friends, left your tablet like a Zombie, is not the solution.

This problem caused by DJI´s firmwar ...

Of course you are right mate, it is only temporary workaround.
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Anyone have 1.1.8 bin file for Pro I can have?
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berrylocksmith. Posted at 2015-6-16 04:28
Anyone have 1.1.8 bin file for Pro I can have?

http://download.dji-innovations. ... mware_v1.1.8_en.zip
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ok just checked something the dji pilot app on my galaxy note 3 lte uses a max op 47 % with liveview on and 11 sats locked
there is no way this is possibly a issue  with cpu load
no mather what i do in the app it will never go above 47 %

made some cpu graphs even that show the load during app usage


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jaanus.kalli Posted at 2015-6-16 04:33
http://download.dji-innovations.com/downloads/phantom_3/en/Phantom_3_Advanced_Firmware_v1.1.8_en.z ...

http://download.dji-innovations. ... mware_v1.1.8_en.zip
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m.vos2@quicknet Posted at 2015-6-16 04:34
ok just checked something the dji pilot app on my galaxy note 3 lte uses a max op 47 % with liveview ...

look at CPU and memory usage ... now for me this looks more like memory leak, app that is not managing memory in sufficient way.
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also after update I can see that gimbal is hot like hell ... ;(
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Tested right now. Indeed, it helped a little, but sometimes... i get stutter again.. but is much better. I can see in cpu monitor that before cpu was like 96% and after disabled play services I get 82%... But the CPU consumption increases as much gps it gets.. so strange..

Other problem is google play services IS NEEDED for a tablet work properly as a tablet...
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Now i am sure the problem is somerwhere between GPS, maps and google play services.. because google play services allows maps to work properly.
Iam very curious how this would work on 1.1.8 firmware and.... latest google play services.
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No, the problem always be the firmware.

This new firmware was made before dji know the error. Tahoe said that he was testing this firmware 3 days ago, then this firmware was developed minimun a week ago...... then DJI not admits the lag problems.......

This firmware is for fix another problem, not for fix the lag.

I suppose that tomorrow or a few days , a new firmware will be launch........
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musman1978 Posted at 2015-6-16 04:48
look at CPU and memory usage ... now for me this looks more like memory leak, app that is not mana ...

not realy worried about the memory usage its a prety big app so this is bassicly the entire app running in system memory
the resources used by this app should not be a big problem for any  decent smartphone made in the last 2 years.

a change i did notice with the old pilot app and the new is that in the old one you could set video link quality in the new one that option was removed.
maybe link quality is set to high by default now ?
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ben_m16 Posted at 2015-6-16 05:04
No, the problem always be the firmware.

This new firmware was made before dji know the error. Taho ...

hope so ... but again DJI communication is the worst ever ... they have resources to put adverts on FB but not to keep us updated ...
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ben_m16 Posted at 2015-6-16 05:04
No, the problem always be the firmware.

This new firmware was made before dji know the error. Taho ...

New firmware could be correlated with new version of google play services.

When i downgraded to 'stock' google play services the cpu overload gone. But it will not giving me good information, because downgraded google play services not working as they should, i think.

Thats why i wrote about 1.1.8 and latest google play services.
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berrylocksmith. Posted at 2015-6-16 04:28
Anyone have 1.1.8 bin file for Pro I can have?

Were you able to trick the phantom into taking the 1.1.8 as 1.2.0 or something ?
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Just home from work and anxiously waited for the P3A and my controller to update.  As it was updating, I started to read this thread and my hopes of an FPV lag fix in this version of FW quickly faded away.

The upgrade went as planned, but a quick test showed the lag was still prevalent and  seems to start sooner than it did using 1.1.8...

Come on DJi, get your act together. I am tempted to email customer support and get a refund.
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johnmaetta@comc Posted at 2015-6-16 05:53
Just home from work and anxiously waited for the P3A and my controller to update.  As it was updati ...

Good Luck They don't answer Emails, I've sent 2 with No reply's!!
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Of course they answer.... and have a lot of humor.

Dear M.E.

As i wrote below, i upgraded my Drone to the latest 1.2.6 firmware and issue is still not resolved.

Sincerely,
Andrew

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Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:31 PM
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Subject: [DJI Technology ] Re: Video lag issue in Phantom 3

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M. E.  M. E. (DJI Technology )

Jun 15, 14:31

Dear Andrzej,

Thank you for your response. I do see where there was a recent firmware update on the download page. Why not update to the current firmware to see if this helps resolve your issue.

Thank you for choosing DJI,
"The Future of Possible!”

DJI Customer Service North America


Andrzej Ry

Jun 15, 11:11

DJI,

In whole respect and sorry for language, but we waiting 3 weeks for update, and today, things goes only worse: Please do not give me a shit.

My device is much faster than supported devices, and it worked FINE, even on 1.1.9 firmware.
I have 2 GB of ram with 4 core Atom 1.9GHz processor. It is new and modern device (lenovo Tab S8-50 ). I have no any bloatware, I removed any useless software.
And after running DJI pilot app my RAM is consumed only in 55%.

On 1.1.9 firmware i have ~75% CPU usage with GPS and about 11 satellites, but fortumantely without lags and stuttering. Only standard about 200ms delay.

Now, on 1.2.6 firmware I have 85-90% CPU usage with GPS and about 11 satellites, and i have got stuttering and lag issues sometimes, it is less smooth that was. It is worse than ever.

My Tablet is working fine on boosted 1.9 Mhz, there is no throttling and overheating.

More satellites = more problem, bigger CPU consumption and bigger lag. Without sattelites i have 55-60% CPU usage on tablet.

When You fix that?


Please read this topic, a lot of people have this problem:
http://forum.dji.com/thread-16777-1-1.html

Best regards,
Andrew


M. E.  M. E. (DJI Technology )

Jun 15, 10:43

Dear Andrew,

Thank you for contacting DJI. Have you checked out the actual video source to see if it is stuttering or is this more of an FPV issue? Please make sure that the mobile unit you are using has the latest operating system as well as 3 gigs of ram open in memory. Also, refer to the Specs link to make sure that you are using a compatible device: http://www.dji.com/product/phantom-3/spec

You also may want to try to record at a lower playback setting to see if this helps with your current issue.

Thank you for choosing DJI,
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Andrzej Ry  

Jun 11, 00:36

Hello

When Video lag issue in Phantom 3 drone will be fixed?

My question is related to this topic:
http://forum.dji.com/thread-16777-1-1.html

Your Community is waiting two weeks for fix.

This is real probelm, all of phantom 3 drones are grounded, people cannot use camera for flying.

One of user crashed his phantom because of that.

Issue exist ALSO on SUPPORTED devices such as Nesus 7 2013, Note 3 and Nexus 9. It exist too on high (much more powerful than devices on supported list) end Galaxy S tablets.

Problem appeared after 1.1.9 firmware

Phantom 3 is your flagship product and this is great product, but it was broken my 1.1.9 f/w

Dear DJI, please make Your statement and assure community you are aware this problem and you working on fix.

We cant fly at now.

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And another part of story

Hello,

It sounds you do not readed about FPV lag issue from Your forum, posted by Your lovely community, and about fact than Your company admitted to exist an FPV issue (in below topic), then finally a problem is not related to my unit at all.

Of course if You think my drone is needing a technician you always can send one to me, Warsaw, Poland. You are welcomed in my country and i will take your technician as an honourable guest! You are always welcomed.

Your faithful customer,
Andrew

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M. E.  M. E. (DJI Technology )

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Dear Andrez,

Thank you for your response. It sounds like you will need for a technician to take a look at your unit. Can you advise on where you are writing from today?

Thank you for choosing DJI,
"The Future of Possible!”

DJI Customer Service North America

I have question, they are really from North America?


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Kyokushin Posted at 2015-6-16 07:19
And another part of story

Hello,

I think dji customer service is completely overwhelmed, look at this latest firmware update as far as I can see it did nothing. The p3 should have never been released yet.  Customer service has no answers because there are none. My p3 has telemetry problems says its 50 or 60 feet higher than it is, video lags, I haven't even bothered to call, I know it will do no good .  Probably going to dig vision plus out and charge up batteries and go fly,  Top it all off with lollipop, should be called lolliflop, lolliflop is the android version of Windows ME or Windows Vista. What a mess.  Here is what I dont get,  The inspire has been out almost a year,  Are Inspire owners having these same problems can someone answer this for me ? Is Dji collapsing?
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richardpwills@g Posted at 2015-6-3 16:08
I had this on my Iphone 5s. After 5 minutes, phone would become hot and the lag would be so bad that ...

I also have iphone 5s, video starts stuttering after a few minutes and phone gets hot hot hot. Doesn't always happen, inconsistent but it's a pain
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m.vos2@quicknet Posted at 2015-6-16 04:34
ok just checked something the dji pilot app on my galaxy note 3 lte uses a max op 47 % with liveview ...

I don't understand - why does that bottom black screen show 80% and lots of memory use by all the google apps?

At 80% you will likely have some problems - in my experience.

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Just tested the new v1.2.7 firmware and the lag is way worse. It's seems they are going in the wrong direction.
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Here is the update.  There is no update.  DJI R&D is working on the problem for the Android.  For the iOS users if you have enabled hardware decoder then it is a thermal issue.  I use a iPad 2 mini for my primary monitor.  I have no problems when the temps are in the 70's or even the 80's.  When it gets above that, the iPad gets very hot and after about 10 minutes the video will begin to lag, not bad but you can see a few skipped frames.  However, above 90F and you will have serious thermal issues.  I flew two weeks ago in in 95-96F and after 8 minutes the video was lagging noticeably after 12 minutes the App shut down and after 15 minutes the iPad shut down because it was too hot.  I go through this every summer.  I store my iPad in an insulated bag with blue ice to cool it down before and in between flights.  If I leave it at ambient and it is 110F then my flights are LOS without an App.  It hits 125-130F almost instantly.  I disagree that this is a firmware issue.  I think that the introduction of v1.1.9 was coincidental to increases in temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere.  That is my speculation since everyone else has theirs.  Yes there are things that you can do to make the situation better.  Use them.  We are diligently working on it.
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Tahoe_Ed Posted at 2015-6-16 08:56
Here is the update.  There is no update.  DJI R&D is working on the problem for the Android.  For th ...

I find it hard to believe that Apple doesn't test their products to operate in warm environments.
Will someone post the operating specs for thier iOS device?


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Tahoe_Ed Posted at 2015-6-16 08:56
Here is the update.  There is no update.  DJI R&D is working on the problem for the Android.  For th ...

For once i am going to agree with you BUT at the same time PLEASE keep us updated of the situation, i guess i am gonna have to go and get me a new iPad air 2 and get this over with so i can enjoy my freaking phantom 3.
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It's 54 degrees here in the mornings so I will test my drone and see how long it takes before the lag starts.
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