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Pozsi85
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Someone from the support, please answer! The 2 (Model MT1SS5 and Model MT1SD25) models have some physically differences, or only the software put the controller in CE or FCC mode? It's important, beacause in CE mode the spark is terrible. I use it on FCC mode, but if the mavic mini in europe only have just CE beacause the hardware, it's a big problem, and i don't buy it...
2019-10-30
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edit:  what was posted on some web/posts:

Operating Frequency
Model MT1SS5: 5.725-5.850 GHz
Model MT1SD25: 2.400-2.4835 GHz, 5.725-5.850 GHz

Transmission Power (EIRP)Model MT1SS5
5.8 GHz: <30 dBm (FCC); <28 dBm (SRRC)
Model MT1SD25
2.4 GHz: <19 dBm (MIC/CE)
5.8 GHz: <14 dBm (CE)

Max Transmission Distance (unobstructed, free of interference)Model MR1SS5
5.8 GHz: 4000 m (FCC); 2500 m (SRRC)
Model MR1SD25
2.4 GHz: 2000 m (MIC/CE)
5.8 GHz: 500 m (CE)



so in CE You gain 2.4, but that power (range) difference is enormus

2019-10-30
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wonder why dji did this instead of just using a tiny like 4 gram wifi system off the self supports all of these things..    that kinda sucks that  so limited.
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HereForTheBeer Posted at 10-30 12:12
wonder why dji did this instead of just using a tiny like 4 gram wifi system off the self supports all of these things..    that kinda sucks that  so limited.

So we should be ordering from the DJI US store then?
2019-10-31
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The wireless signal RF hardware of the Mavic Mini is either the CE/MIC dual-frequency version (2.4 GHz/5.8 GHz) or the FCC (5.8 GHz) version. Please follow the local regulations when using the aircraft. When using an FCC aircraft in a country or area that does not support 5.8GHz, DJI Fly will pop up a warning.
Different versions of remote controllers and aircraft cannot link to each other. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.
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DJI Mindy Posted at 10-31 00:53
The wireless signal RF hardware of the Mavic Mini is either the CE/MIC dual-frequency version (2.4 GHz/5.8 GHz) or the FCC (5.8 GHz) version. Please follow the local regulations when using the aircraft. When using an FCC aircraft in a country or area that does not support 5.8GHz, DJI Fly will pop up a warning.
Different versions of remote controllers and aircraft cannot link to each other. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

Doesnt that make it a little tricky to travel with then?
2019-10-31
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Do we know which country will sell which version?
As far as I've seen in the UK, Norway, and Switzerland version of the DJI website says 4km range distance and the other EU countries say 2km.
Does it mean the FCC version will sell in the UK, Norway and Switzerland?
2019-10-31
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Oh wow, that is different indeed!
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DJI Mindy Posted at 10-31 00:53
The wireless signal RF hardware of the Mavic Mini is either the CE/MIC dual-frequency version (2.4 GHz/5.8 GHz) or the FCC (5.8 GHz) version. Please follow the local regulations when using the aircraft. When using an FCC aircraft in a country or area that does not support 5.8GHz, DJI Fly will pop up a warning.
Different versions of remote controllers and aircraft cannot link to each other. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

Please answer for this:
If i buy a mavic mini in Hungary, which is a CE country, so i get  Model MT1SD25 version. This have a weaker transmission power? So, when i go to USA, it can't gly in FCC mode, just in CE?
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Pozsi85 Posted at 10-31 11:24
Please answer for this:
If i buy a mavic mini in Hungary, which is a CE country, so i get  Model MT1SD25 version. This have a weaker transmission power? So, when i go to USA, it can't gly in FCC mode, just in CE?

maybe!  We must wait....
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BergkampHUN Posted at 10-31 02:23
Do we know which country will sell which version?
As far as I've seen in the UK, Norway, and Switzerland version of the DJI website says 4km range distance and the other EU countries say 2km.
Does it mean the FCC version will sell in the UK, Norway and Switzerland?

The UK is a CE complaint region
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DJI Mindy Posted at 10-31 00:53
The wireless signal RF hardware of the Mavic Mini is either the CE/MIC dual-frequency version (2.4 GHz/5.8 GHz) or the FCC (5.8 GHz) version. Please follow the local regulations when using the aircraft. When using an FCC aircraft in a country or area that does not support 5.8GHz, DJI Fly will pop up a warning.
Different versions of remote controllers and aircraft cannot link to each other. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

Can I fly Model Model MR1SS5 in a Model MR1SD25 area, and vice versa?
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RBI Posted at 10-31 18:11
Can I fly Model Model MR1SS5 in a Model MR1SD25 area, and vice versa?

I would also like to know this. DJI could you please answer?
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Pozsi85 Posted at 10-31 11:24
Please answer for this:
If i buy a mavic mini in Hungary, which is a CE country, so i get  Model MT1SD25 version. This have a weaker transmission power? So, when i go to USA, it can't gly in FCC mode, just in CE?

CE version drone is able to fly in FCC country, but it will keep CE version.
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RBI Posted at 10-31 18:11
Can I fly Model Model MR1SS5 in a Model MR1SD25 area, and vice versa?

MT1SD25 (CE) can fly in MT1SS5 (FCC) country, while if you fly MT1SS5 (FCC) drone in MT1SD25 (CE) country, you will face legal risks, please follow the local regulations.
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DJI Mindy Posted at 11-1 04:05
MT1SD25 (CE) can fly in MT1SS5 (FCC) country, while if you fly MT1SS5 (FCC) drone in MT1SD25 (CE) country, you will face legal risks, please follow the local regulations.

Thank you for the clarification.
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Looks like there are really 2 different hardware versions as per DJI support:

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1. Both USA and Canada use FCC mode.
2. You can identify the aircraft version with the first three SN positions of the fuselage : 1SZ -- FCC;1WG -- CE.
3. The wireless signal RF hardware of the Mavic Mini is either the CE/MIC dual-frequency version (2.4 GHz/5.8 GHz) or the FCC (5.8 GHz) version. The FCC mode will not switch to CE mode depending on geolocation. Please follow the local regulations when using the aircraft. When using an FCC aircraft in a country or area that does not support 5.8GHz, DJI Fly will pop up a warning. Different versions of remote controllers and aircraft cannot link to each other.
3. The version of FCC or CE is not only the transmitting power of the remote controller, but the version of the aircraft.
Thank you for choosing DJI product.
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RBI Posted at 11-1 05:19
Thank you for the clarification.

No problem.
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DJI Mindy Posted at 11-1 04:05
MT1SD25 (CE) can fly in MT1SS5 (FCC) country, while if you fly MT1SS5 (FCC) drone in MT1SD25 (CE) country, you will face legal risks, please follow the local regulations.

That’s quite disappointing to hear your explanations.  So this mini is going to completely lose the flexibility of travelling between different countries.  As we might face the legal issue if we have the FCC model even if we can get over the weight limit, also CE model will lose the flight range even in FCC geographic area.  
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MAVICDLNM Posted at 11-4 01:45
That’s quite disappointing to hear your explanations.  So this mini is going to completely lose the flexibility of travelling between different countries.  As we might face the legal issue if we have the FCC model even if we can get over the weight limit, also CE model will lose the flight range even in FCC geographic area.

We are sorry to let you down, Mavic Mini is an entry-level drone, there may be some limitations and some features are also not available, but we will continue to optimize the product according to the customer's requests.
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DJI Mindy Posted at 10-31 00:53
The wireless signal RF hardware of the Mavic Mini is either the CE/MIC dual-frequency version (2.4 GHz/5.8 GHz) or the FCC (5.8 GHz) version. Please follow the local regulations when using the aircraft. When using an FCC aircraft in a country or area that does not support 5.8GHz, DJI Fly will pop up a warning.
Different versions of remote controllers and aircraft cannot link to each other. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

Must block the fcc version in Europe or not!?
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Jcgm@aeiou.pt Posted at 11-7 04:01
Must block the fcc version in Europe or not!?

The Americans can fly in Europe with FCC mode the Europeans not!?
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The frequencies used by the FCC version (5725-5850MHz, according to FCC declaration) are legally limited to 14dBm (25mW) EIRP (at least in Germany, haven't checked rest of Europe).
Other than that the FCC version is lacking the ability to use the other 5GHz frequency bands (5150~5250MHz, 5250~5350MHz, 5470~5725MHz) as well as 2.4GHz.

For me this boils down to: FCC version with reduced transmission power (!) could be flown legally in CE areas.
Question is whether transmission power is/can be automatically reduced by the app....
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Reading on various forums there seems to be quite some confusion (even with contradicting info from DJI support) around two major questions:

  • Is the hardware really different or not?
    DJI Mindy's reply #5 above sounds as if it was different hardware - but the FCC declaration states
    'MT1SS5 have the ability to work in 2.4G and 5G 4 frequency bands: 5150~5250MHz, 5250~5350MHz, 5470~5725MHz, 5725~5850MHz. For the purpose of marketing, the frequency of the product sold in U.S. are programmed and locked to work only in 5725~5850MHz. The other frequency bands 2.4G and 5150~5250MHz, 5250~5350MHz, 5470~5725MHz are disabled by firmware in factory.'
    which doesn't sound like different hardware to me....
  • Will the transmission power of the FCC model be reduced when flying in CE countries or not?
    European regulations only allow a max. EIRP of 14 dBm (25 mW) for that frequency band - which is why the CE version is limited by default.
    If the transmission power remains on FCC level flying in CE areas will definitely be illegal even though the frequencies as such are completely legal to use.
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Can anyone explain how if you're flying FCC in a CE country anyone would ever know???  The only way I can imagine is some government entity physically gets hold of your drone and by the manufacturer's markings on the drone or turning it on they can tell.  Are there sensors that can home in on a specific drone and tell whether it is FCC or CE???
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You buy in a CE country, you get CE. But if you travel to a FCC country, you can fly. (Your more likely a visitor/tourist, and it will go home with you.)
And vice versa,
You buy in a FCC country, you get FCC, but you can fly in a CE country. (Your more likely a visitor/tourist, and it will go home with you.)
It only su**s one way,

And more than likely, no issue, unless you are doing something really stupid in a CE country with an FCC setup, and get caught. Then they may use that as a "charging point" for prosecution IF they decide to do so...

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DJI Mindy Posted at 10-31 00:53
The wireless signal RF hardware of the Mavic Mini is either the CE/MIC dual-frequency version (2.4 GHz/5.8 GHz) or the FCC (5.8 GHz) version. Please follow the local regulations when using the aircraft. When using an FCC aircraft in a country or area that does not support 5.8GHz, DJI Fly will pop up a warning.
Different versions of remote controllers and aircraft cannot link to each other. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

I spoke to DJI support and they said in Australia we get the FCC version.

"Australia will get the FCC version. However, if you are going to use the 2.4GHz, it will switch automatically to CE. For 5.8GHz, it's FCC."

He made it sound like we could choose between 2.4 or 5.8... but you say the FCC version only has the 5.8GHz frequency? I'm confused...
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deathsquad Posted at 11-7 12:29
I spoke to DJI support and they said in Australia we get the FCC version.

"Australia will get the FCC version. However, if you are going to use the 2.4GHz, it will switch automatically to CE. For 5.8GHz, it's FCC."

Possible buy unlikely given the below - also identical hardware.
This is what DJI have told the FCC:


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Dr0ne_n00b Posted at 11-7 19:11
Possible buy unlikely given the below - also identical hardware.
This is what DJI have told the FCC:
[view_image]

Based on this letter even those there are two models, but actually have few more based on different country shipment.  We can almost confirm MT1SS5 selling in US has ONLY 5G with 5725~5850MHz.  And the other all lock up in firmware level.  And MT1SS5 selling in other FFC districts might or might not open the other bands.  So the US version is the least available bands among all different models of mini?
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Rustic17 Posted at 11-7 09:49
Can anyone explain how if you're flying FCC in a CE country anyone would ever know???  The only way I can imagine is some government entity physically gets hold of your drone and by the manufacturer's markings on the drone or turning it on they can tell.  Are there sensors that can home in on a specific drone and tell whether it is FCC or CE???

The missing CE sign on the remote control is indeed a very reliable indicator and doesn't require any electronic equipment to verify. Other than that, it will be almost impossible to tell - at least as long as you stick to the rules (visual flight only, local restrictions, ...) and fly in an area where the frequencies are free to use. Unless you are transmitting on full FCC power and cause some interferences somewhere, that is.




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Like to have an answer on this question when I go to the DJI Maverick mini side in Spain it says 4 km Is that the FCC or ce version
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BergkampHUN Posted at 10-31 02:23
Do we know which country will sell which version?
As far as I've seen in the UK, Norway, and Switzerland version of the DJI website says 4km range distance and the other EU countries say 2km.
Does it mean the FCC version will sell in the UK, Norway and Switzerland?

where did you see that?
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https://www.dji.com/ch/mavic-mini/specs

    Max Transmission Distance (unobstructed, free of interference)
    Model MR1SS5
    5.8 GHz: 4000 m (FCC); 2500 m (SRRC)
    Model MR1SD25
    2.4 GHz: 2000 m (MIC/CE)
    5.8 GHz: 500 m (CE)

was that different, on 10-31?
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Johannes1 Posted at 11-9 09:42
Like to have an answer on this question when I go to the DJI Maverick mini side in Spain it says 4 km Is that the FCC or ce version

Where did you find that?
On

https://www.dji.com/es/mavic-mini/specs

it is:

    Distancia máx. de transmisión (sin obstáculos, libre de interferencias)
    Modelo MR1SS5
    5.8 GHz: 4000 m (FCC); 2500 m (SRRC)
    Modelo MR1SD25
    2.4 GHz: 2000 m (MIC/CE)
    5.8 GHz: 500 m (CE)
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Dr0ne_n00b Posted at 11-7 19:11
Possible buy unlikely given the below - also identical hardware.
This is what DJI have told the FCC:
[view_image]

I have hope, that some "guys" are be able to release the firmware from the limitations!
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deathsquad Posted at 11-7 12:29
I spoke to DJI support and they said in Australia we get the FCC version.

"Australia will get the FCC version. However, if you are going to use the 2.4GHz, it will switch automatically to CE. For 5.8GHz, it's FCC."

Yes, you will get FCCversion in Australia, but FCC version of Mavic Mini only supports 5.8 GHz, FCC version can fly in countries and regions of FCC and SRRC, as well as 5.8 GHz-supported CE countries and regions. In an unobstructed environment free of interference, the FCC Mavic Mini’s max image transmission distance can reach 4 km in the FCC countries and regions, 2.5 km in the SRRC countries and regions, and 500 m in 5.8 GHz-supported CE countries and regions.
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DJI Mindy Posted at 11-11 02:05
Yes, you will get FCCversion in Australia, but FCC version of Mavic Mini only supports 5.8 GHz, FCC version can fly in countries and regions of FCC and SRRC, as well as 5.8 GHz-supported CE countries and regions. In an unobstructed environment free of interference, the FCC Mavic Mini’s max image transmission distance can reach 4 km in the FCC countries and regions, 2.5 km in the SRRC countries and regions, and 500 m in 5.8 GHz-supported CE countries and regions.

If I buy model MT1SS5 for use in Russia, will I get a 500 meter limit? That is, even worse than in model MT1SD25?
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Антон Караваев Posted at 11-11 08:10
If I buy model MT1SS5 for use in Russia, will I get a 500 meter limit? That is, even worse than in model MT1SD25?

DJI Mindy please answer.
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You may not answer further. I already bought another model.
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