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hawkins2000 Posted at 11-11 07:51
Hehe...keep it very safely stored until we know the secret of the two "different" firmwares...your model seems to be a very interesting one

Could you post some images from the labels, please?

Hahaha. .... maybe DJI spent me the new unreleased Mavic3
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nik1975 Posted at 11-11 07:34
I don't have some spark ....
I think it's a software issues.... because the serialnumber and everything is like Ce... also the Model is the MT1SD25 inside of the Mini. But the software showing something different

Good for you!
So fw flashed and wrongly labeled!
DON'T ever update it!
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S-e-ven Posted at 11-11 08:11
Good for you!
So fw flashed and wrongly labeled!
DON'T ever update it!

Thats the way ....
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Mit 5.8 kommt man nich weit und 2,4 ist zu sehr "WIFI verseucht".
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Try this, please:
https://forum.dji.com/thread-201705-1-1.html
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I have make a Test and I've you got the FCC version in Europe you have a big problem because you don't have the choices to change the 5.8 to a 2.4 ....
You have just 5.8 and that's really bad....
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nik1975 Posted at 11-11 23:15
I have make a Test and I've you got the FCC version in Europe you have a big problem because you don't have the choices to change the 5.8 to a 2.4 ....
You have just 5.8 and that's really bad....

How is going your Fcc Version There ? Good day for you
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With extra FCC power I don't think that having only 5.8 will be a problem. I agree that there is no way I would trade that drone
congratz on Your luck maybe You can save firmware as backup ;) would be great for a future "investigation" ;)

I say this from mavic air perspective, where we compared 2 units - one was a CE with auto, other on FCC. even on 5.8 it outperformed CE 2.4 by a lot... really a lot...

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So, have you fcc or ce label on the back of your remote controller?
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KREMi Posted at 11-12 00:57
With extra FCC power I don't think that having only 5.8 will be a problem. I agree that there is no way I would trade that drone
congratz on Your luck  maybe You can save firmware as backup ;) would be great for a future "investigation" ;)


The problem is that you have in Europe the 5.8 ce signal and not the 5.8 fcc signal..... that's the point.
So every one who like to buy some drone from US or anything else outside of EU you got the same problem..... so don't do it..... it doesn't work
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nik1975 Posted at 11-12 01:20
The problem is that you have in Europe the 5.8 ce signal and not the 5.8 fcc signal..... that's the point.
So every one who like to buy some drone from US or anything else outside of EU you got the same problem..... so don't do it..... it doesn't work

looking at those few strange vids where they are able to get 3km on a CE unit - I think there still is something "not working" ;) with limiter. so there is still hope for a full strenght in EU
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fans2d8bc67d Posted at 11-12 01:18
So, have you fcc or ce label on the back of your remote controller?

Ce labels  everything looks like a Ce drone.... but inside it's a fcc model
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nik1975 Posted at 11-12 01:31
Ce labels  everything looks like a Ce drone.... but inside it's a fcc model

Hi nik1975, we would like to verify whether it is software related or the wrong model was sent.
What mobile device are you using and what is the APP version? Could you please re-install the APP to see if it persists?
If it remains, it could be the wrong model in hardware, please send in as soon as possible and we will replace it. If you keep it, it will be unable to get repaired in the local repair center in the future.
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You never had the Go4 mod 2.0 on your device, right?
I was trying to install the dji fly, yesterday, on 2 devices.
Every time it wanted to update the Go4 mod. 2.0., instead.
The playstore even just wanted to open the Mod. 2.0, instead of letting me download the fly.
So how about trying the moded Go4 from 2 years ago?
Perhaps that thing would connect to the Mini, like the fly seems to conject to the Spark (and Mavic Pro)
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DJI Mindy Posted at 11-12 02:26
Hi nik1975, we would like to verify whether it is software related or the wrong model was sent.
What mobile device are you using and what is the APP version? Could you please re-install the APP to see if it persists?
If it remains, it could be the wrong model in hardware, please send in as soon as possible and we will replace it. If you keep it, it will be unable to get repaired in the local repair center in the future.

Hi Mindy,
I have a second device just the mavic mini not the combo the same issues .....
But you think if i have the app from a us shop i have fcc mode???
I can believed
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nik1975 Posted at 11-12 01:20
The problem is that you have in Europe the 5.8 ce signal and not the 5.8 fcc signal..... that's the point.
So every one who like to buy some drone from US or anything else outside of EU you got the same problem..... so don't do it..... it doesn't work

What do you mean?
You just have the CE power output?
I doubt that, since you wrote " reached1000m" already, plus 500 in the city.
That seems to be the full 125mW power, the FCC is allowing in 5.8!   
(I guess, the 1000 was YOUR turning point, not the birds/stream down, right?)


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nik1975 Posted at 11-12 03:24
Hi Mindy,
I have a second device just the mavic mini not the combo the same issues .....
But you think if i have the app from a us shop i have fcc mode???

Perhaps b/c Switzerland is not in EU, someone at DJI thought, FCC it should be?
Where does your dealer gets the birds?
Some days to early on sale, wrong fw (?) on them, ....!
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S-e-ven Posted at 11-12 10:42
What do you mean?
You just have the CE power output?
I doubt that, since you wrote " reached1000m" already, plus 500 in the city.

Yes the have the CE power on the 5.8 band and its automatical 5.8 but not the strong signal....
the 1000meters are outside of the city- the 500 in the city :-)
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S-e-ven Posted at 11-12 10:47
Perhaps b/c Switzerland is not in EU, someone at DJI thought, FCC it should be?
Where does your dealer gets the birds?
Some days to early on sale, wrong fw (?) on them, ....!

i buy the minis from two different dealers in switzerland.
the app is download dirrectly from dji so... it must be the firmware.
my device is a samsung note 10+ 5G so i think thats not the problem.
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So, I seem to have the same problem.  

I bought the flymore combo today in the UK from Argos (a major retailer) and set it up today..the app shows it as the FCCmodel (MT1SS5) and its locked to 5.8.  Annoyingly, the remote is (at least, labelled as) a MR1SD25, which is the correct CE remote so will likely be limited in power output

note that the box is labelled as "mavic mini fly more combo (UK)" so this is definitely UK stock.  Also, I have installed the latest firmware and the issue remained..

Happy to share the S/Ns etc to @DJI Mindy if needed, as I think this is a problem...really hope it's just a firmware thing and it can be sorted that way!



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S-e-ven Posted at 11-12 02:41
You never had the Go4 mod 2.0 on your device, right?
I was trying to install the dji fly, yesterday, on 2 devices.
Every time it wanted to update the Go4 mod. 2.0., instead.
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Just grab the FLY apk from DJI download section..
Installation ok if no dji.go.v5 folder present.
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my drone and the controller are with Ce labels....
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Model MR1SS5 (FCC)
5.8 GHz: <30 dBm (FCC); <28 dBm (SRRC)

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Model MR1SD25 (CE)
2.4 GHz: <19 dBm (MIC/CE)
5.8 GHz: <14 dBm (CE)



By 2019, I'm not sure DJI will let us do FCC in CE region anymore.
They will try to tie us down with strict regulations. And they will probably succeed.

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Haggi Posted at 11-12 14:36
Model MR1SS5 (FCC)
5.8 GHz:

Yep that's true.... but for me I just like to. have the normal version ... no bcc no fake gps (at the moment)
just Ce.....
and its my second mini the first has the same issues....
so they must be more persons with that problem.... or not?
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When looking at your screenshot in #2, I think you are on strong FCC signal mode. Not CE output.
There are 1km and 4km indicators, these has always been absent in CE region. At least in my GO 4.
I would consider myselves lucky if I received a package like yours.
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Haggi Posted at 11-12 15:05
When looking at your screenshot in #2, I think you are on strong FCC signal mode. Not CE output.
There are 1km and 4km indicators, these has always been absent in CE region. At least in my GO 4.
I would consider myselves lucky if I received a package like yours.
And what do you think of that one???
Too much red....
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nik1975 Posted at 11-12 15:12
And what do you think of that one???
Too much red....[Image]

What I mean:
I think you've got a legit US version (5.8 GHz only).
And signal power is not reduced to CE levels.

2.4 GHz band is 2-digit channels.
5.8 GHz band is 3-digit channels.
11 channels in 2.4 GHz band indicates FCC
13 channels in 2.4 GHz band indicates CE
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So how do you know which version you have? Mine only shows the 5.8GHz on that screen with no option of 2.4 so is mine FCC? Edit: but 13 channels...
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monkeyseemonkey Posted at 11-12 15:18
So how do you know which version you have? Mine only shows the 5.8GHz on that screen with no option of 2.4 so is mine FCC? Edit: but 13 channels...

I've you connect your phone with the controller.....
What status do you have? Like that?
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Haggi Posted at 11-12 15:18
What I mean:
I think you've got a legit US version (5.8 GHz only).
And signal power is not reduced to CE levels.

I go tomorrow outside in the fields to make some range test....
But on the picture that i post now you see that it has 13 channels so no fcc , or?
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On older drones, connected with OTG cable.. we was not able to change band or channel. At least not reliable.
Had to be connected to the RC over wifi.
Chosen channel/band will be stored in AC, and used when OTG is used.
I expect, like the Spark, it will jump band mid-air.. but not channel.

Also expect bugs in the FLY app, it just left beta.
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nik1975 Posted at 11-12 15:29
I go tomorrow outside in the fields to make some range test....
But on the picture that i post now you see that it has 13 channels so no fcc , or?

Bummer, that went under my radar..
Then it's CE, definitely.
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Haggi Posted at 11-12 15:33
Bummer, that went under my radar..
Then it's CE, definitely.
Hahaha
But the second picture that i took is inside the house and the other one outside ready to fly....
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And my Fly App is from the Dji website download.....
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This, sort of, confirms what @DJI Mindy said.
FCC Mini in CE region will have reduced output.

If you just want a legit CE model, you probably have to return it, as the hardware is different between the two models. Even the RC hardware..
Sleep on it for a couple of flights *s*

Thanks for the clarification and time spend.
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Haggi Posted at 11-12 15:58
This, sort of, confirms what @DJI Mindy said.
FCC Mini in CE region will have reduced output.

But doesn't this make the FCC model way worse than a CE model in a CE country? The 5.8Ghz power would be cut in half and there would be no (slightly stronger) 2.4Ghz either...
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CemAygun Posted at 11-12 18:05
But doesn't this make the FCC model way worse than a CE model in a CE country? The 5.8Ghz power would be cut in half and there would be no (slightly stronger) 2.4Ghz either...

Yes thats the problem.... with fcc in europe you have a big problem .... so maybe not the best traveling drone that the marketing will sell to the customers  
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Haggi Posted at 11-12 15:58
This, sort of, confirms what @DJI Mindy said.
FCC Mini in CE region will have reduced output.

Where did she/DJI say that, please?
I must have missed that, I can just recall something like "FCC-Mini in CE area will have a warning pop up. And if you still fly, you may encounter legal problems"
In case the bird would reduce to CE max power output, there could be "only" the legal reason, that in CE a 5.8 GHz device needs to "give up" that band/channel, in case other, official user of these bands/channels would be on it.
Perhaps that is the reason for the CE Mini having not only reduced power, but also 2.4Ghz!
Like all other 5.8 drones in CE countries.

As more we ask, as more difficult it seems, to understand the answers!
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Ehm, I am wondering about something.  could be a typo, but could also be the trouble wit FCC drones sold in Ce/Europe?

DJI says, there are 2 models:

Model MT1SS5: 5.725-5.850 GHz
Model MT1SD25: 2.400-2.4835 GHz, 5.725-5.850 GHz

This picture looks like, there is either a typo in the Spec pages, or a third version or a wrong coding in the fw.
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S-e-ven Posted at 11-12 22:10
Where did she/DJI say that, please?
I must have missed that, I can just recall something like "FCC-Mini in CE area will have a warning pop up. And if you still fly, you may encounter legal problems"
In case the bird would reduce to CE max power output, there could be "only" the legal reason, that in CE a 5.8 GHz device needs to "give up" that band/channel, in case other, official user of these bands/channels would be on it.

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... 204&pid=2000829
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