HedgeTrimmer Posted at 11-22 18:40
Already have put forth a few possible things DJI stood gain. Once again you conveniently forgotten those possibilities so you could Troll.
Public would need to install DJI's Free Drone Monitoring App, which could give DJI access to their personal data. Depends upon what DJI builds into App and what access App tells people it requires.
Again more proof of exactly what the FAA intends to do in December, all this is just making you look ridiculous, it might be time to stop digging.
When the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) publishes its notice of proposed rule-making (NPRM) on remote identification of drones for public comment this December it could open the door to a new era of more advanced commercial drone operations – not just in the USA but globally.
The NPRM will describe how remote ID information will be collected, managed and distributed in various levels to different stakeholders. The electronic registration number of nearby drones (within 400m) should be visible to the public on a smart phone via Bluetooth 4 and WIFI communications. Law enforcement agencies will have more information about the drone’s ownership at longer ranges, via more powerful handheld devices.
Maybe you’ll stop lying now it’s clear what FAA’s intentions are . Or are the FAA lying about their NPRM proposals.
So I think the lack of response from someone who’s usually responds with 3/4 posts, shows that what he posted was 100% designed to cause confusion and hysteria.
For some years now the same guy has been involved in some of the most outrageous conspiracy theories including this one in which we have shown he is completely barking up the wrong tree, all of the information he posted was tainted because he left out ALL the relevant pieces of information, he does this to creat maximum confusion, in this case he decided against all good advice to advise users not to lobby the correct group , but tried to get users to lobby in outrage here on the forum against dji.
He managed to get everything wrong, but he knew, this but was still intent on causing confusion for all members here and this is his only reason for him being on this forum, there are tens of threads on this forum where he tried to do the same, and I have to say to date he got them all wrong.
He popped in here to downvote as he does, but really he should be here to apologize to all for deliberately trying to confuse them .
Summation of below: Being FAA is still working on Remote ID Rulemaking document at this time, contacting FAA in regards to Remote ID is pointless.
From another thread, I (HedgeTrimmer) asked following question: "Have you found proper way to contact FAA on Remote ID? (Thanks in advance)"
Several searches FAA's website for a way to provide input for, public comment on, Remote ID; kept coming up with nothing.
Asking around, no one came up with a FAA link for public comment.
Reading FAA's website on Remote ID, it became obvious FAA was not yet taking input, ready for public comment, on Remote ID.
Calling FAA was complete waste of time. There was no Robotic Menu to get to a Live person to ask about providing input, public comments.
After more FAA website searching, came across a Link for contacting FAA via their messaging. Wrote up my Remote ID concerns, and sent them.
What I got back was, FAA at this time has not finished work on Remote ID, and is not ready for Public Comment. When FAA is done, FAA will issue a NPRM (notice of proposed rulemaking). When FAA is ready for public comment on Remote ID, it will appear here: Recently Published Rulemaking Documents
Since FAA has not completed NPRM Remote ID document, anybody posting material claiming it comes from FAA's NPRM on Remote ID; needs to back claim up with FAA link to NPRM document.
Not to sure why this guy continues to make ridiculous arguments, first of all he gets almost everything completely arse about face, telling us all that Dji were instrumental in forcing an app on the general public, an app that was clearly requested by FAA and how that app needed to operate with specific’s for general public, we all know because it has been announced since October that the FAA would bring forward discussions on new proposals for Remote ID, but obviously someone didn’t attend school that day, well I’ll leave the video below where both the host and the interviewee mention December at least 6 times, I’ll also leave article below which also tells the same story.
This ridiculous effort at trying to hijack everything with honestly ridiculous semantics is incredibly boring for everyone, as we can nobody has passed any heed once again , this matter will be available for drone users soon to discuss with the FAA and frankly it doesn’t matter a hoot if it’s the 6th 7th 20th 27th it will come up for discussion, so please stop with the ridiculous posts it’s fairly obvious everyone is bored.And just so everyone knows nobody said to go lobby the FAA, I said go lobby the FAA when this comes up for discussion, and this I made clear in post 27, so anyone trying to lobby FAA right now is a bigger fool than I thought .
And one thing is for sure everyone on this forum will be made aware when it does happen, so keep looking up in case the sky falls in.
December FAA and ASTM remote ID publications “will transform commercial drone operations worldwide”
October 31, 2019
Philip Butterworth-Hayes
Emerging regulations, UAS traffic management news
When the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) publishes its notice of proposed rule-making (NPRM) on remote identification of drones for public comment this December it could open the door to a new era of more advanced commercial drone operations – not just in the USA but globally.
Attendees at the Commercial UAV Expo in Las Vegas (October 30-31) heard how the FAA’s publication plans are being carefully choreographed with the publication of UAS traffic management (UTM) standards from ASTM International, the US-based standards organisation developing industry protocols for Bluetooth and Wifi remote ID broadcast services for operators using electronic devices, along with the sharing of networked remote ID data among government, industry and the public (see main image).
If these standards are adopted globally, as speakers suggested was almost inevitable, then the door is open for regulatory frameworks to be adopted worldwide for advanced operations such as services over people and beyond line of sight, supported by federated and competitive UTM service suppliers.
According to Philip Kernul Chair of ASTM’s F38 UAS Committee: “We’ve been socialising this process across the Atlantic and with Canada. Right now we are just about finished with the standard. In Europe ASD has been delegated to do remote ID standards – specifically for the open category but not the specific or certified categories and we are in discussions with them about using our standard as an organ of reference so they can just adopt our standard as a whole. “
Draft standard documents have also been sent to Australia, New Zealand and Singapore.
“It will become the world’s standard for remote ID,” said Executive Director, FAA Office of Unmanned Aircraft Systems Integration Jay Merkle.”There is no activity in the world that is even close to what it being produced.”
The publication of the new standards and the proposed rule-making has been a long time coming The UAS Identification and Tracking Aviation Rulemaking Committee (ARC) submitted its report and recommendations to the agency back in September 2017 on technologies available to identify and track drones in flight and other associated issues.
In the process of developing the new architecture the FAA has had to develop its proposed rule-making without knowing what the final industry standards will be while ASTM has had to develop new standards without knowing what the new rule making will look like. Over the last two years the FAA and its partners have had to face a mushrooming set of issues, beyond the core technology issues.
Some of the key questions that have had to be answered are:
What are the most appropriate technologies to be used? How should drone identification information be shared among the government agencies, the public and industry? How should the service be developed as a public private partnership? How should more complex drone flight risks be evaluated in a systematic, standardised way? Will recreational drone users and modellers have to comply with the new regulations?
While all the answers will not be clear until publication of the NPRM some of the high level components of the new architecture were outlined at the conference.
The NPRM will describe how remote ID information will be collected, managed and distributed in various levels to different stakeholders. The electronic registration number of nearby drones (within 400m) should be visible to the public on a smart phone via Bluetooth 4 and WIFI communications. Law enforcement agencies will have more information about the drone’s ownership at longer ranges, via more powerful handheld devices.
In December 2018, the FAA issued a Request for Information (RFI) to establish an industry cohort to explore potential technological solutions for Remote ID. The companies have been working with the FAA, following the blueprint of the LAANC programme, to develop the core technologies. “We’ve been working with them to iron out the kinks and then invite everyone in,” said Jay Merkle. “We have to have the ability to get something out of the door; if you wait until you can please everyone then nothing will ever get done.”
The publication of the remote ID NPRM will also allow the FAA to move ahead with its Operation of Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems over People rules. “We didn’t want to finalise the operations over people rule until we had done remote ID,” said Jay Merkle, “because the concerns of having large numbers of people operating large numbers of drones over people without remote ID.”
The FAA has also been working to develop common risk assessments between ATM and UTM areas of operation. “The Air Traffic Organization is putting together a safety panel to look at what are the safety management criteria that everyone should use when they evaluate the safety cases,” said Jay Merkle. “We now have a safety risk management order in the FAA on how to uniformly manage in a standard manner safety cases for drones.” This is based on the JARUS SORA output – which will mean, in the theory, if US commercial operators have met the safety criteria for advanced operations in the USA this operation can be exported to other parts of the world.
hallmark007 Posted at 12-4 07:44
Not to sure why this guy continues to make ridiculous arguments, first of all he gets almost everything completely arse about face, telling us all that Dji were instrumental in forcing an app on the general public, an app that was clearly requested by FAA and how that app needed to operate with specific’s for general public, we all know because it has been announced since October that the FAA would bring forward discussions on new proposals for Remote ID, but obviously someone didn’t attend school that day, well I’ll leave the video below where both the host and the interviewee mention December at least 6 times, I’ll also leave article below which also tells the same story.
This ridiculous effort at trying to hijack everything with honestly ridiculous semantics is incredibly boring for everyone, as we can nobody has passed any heed once again , this matter will be available for drone users soon to discuss with the FAA and frankly it doesn’t matter a hoot if it’s the 6th 7th 20th 27th it will come up for discussion, so please stop with the ridiculous posts it’s fairly obvious everyone is bored.
Post a link where we, drone pilots / owners, can provide FAA with comment on yet to be finalized proposed rules for drone Remote ID.
As of last night there was no Notice of Proposed Rule Making on Remote ID for drones posted by FAA. Which is required to make Public comment.
Unless you can provide such a link, then all you are doing is B.lowing S.moke.
All this fool can do is troll bait, he’s got everything wrong here, he can’t leave it alone , now the rest of the forum can deal with the fool because that’s what he is. As I said before spends all his time here trying to create hysteria, and just like his new mental posts they’re absolutely ridiculous make absolutely no sense , but are purposely designed to troll bait from the forum troll, don’t contact me troll go play with yourself .
HedgeTrimmer Posted at 12-4 07:57
Post a link where we, drone pilots / owners, can provide FAA with comment on yet to be finalized proposed rules for drone Remote ID.
As of last night there was no Notice of Proposed Rule Making on Remote ID for drones posted by FAA. Which is required to make Public comment.
hallmark007 Posted at 12-4 08:34
All this fool can do is troll bait, he’s got everything wrong here, he can’t leave it alone , now the rest of the forum can deal with the fool because that’s what he is. As I said before spends all his time here trying to create hysteria, and just like his new mental posts they’re absolutely ridiculous make absolutely no sense , but are purposely designed to troll bait from the forum troll, don’t contact me troll go play with yourself .
You tried to lay DJI's demonstrated and planned FREE and PUBLIC App providing Drone Flight Information and Pilot location that went beyond merely Remote ID at feet of FAA. Calling for people to lobby / comment to FAA, not DJI.
When it was shown that FAA had so far only called for Remote ID and FAA & Federal authorized agencies would have access, you went off on side track about FAA gathering input from group. Again trying to lay blame for DJI's Free and Public Remote ID and MORE at feet of FAA.
When it was pointed out we could not lobby or comment to FAA on Remote ID, because FAA was still in process of writing up their proposed rule on Remote ID for public comment, you fall back to your typical personal insults.
Fact we can't yet comment, leads back to Topic. DJI jumped gun with their plan and we should be lobbying DJI to NOT release their App to public and to NOT include anything more than Remote ID, and Remote ID should not be public identifiable to drone owner / user.
Idiot and you deserve that title , read my post regarding lobbying FAA or better still for an idiot I will copy and paste for you, you just refuse to listen or read anything before commenting, I never told anyone to go to FAA website to lobby, what I said was this would be up for discussion in December from accounts I have heard .
Are you now seriously trying to say this won’t come up for discussion or what are you trying to say.
But don’t go spreading more lies about people, you’ve done that enough, I know what I said and it’s not the usual peddling of lies your again posting , grow up and stop trolling .
UAS Crew Chief Posted at 12-4 09:08
The original text of post #86 has been taken from this news website:
https://www.unmannedairspace.info/emerging-regulations/december-faa-and-astm-remote-id-publications-could-transform-global-commercial-drone-operations/
Are we telling tales out of school, you forgot to mention the video was shared from YT .
hallmark007 Posted at 12-4 09:31
Idiot and you deserve that title , read my post regarding lobbying FAA or better still for an idiot I will copy and paste for you, you just refuse to listen or read anything before commenting, I never told anyone to go to FAA website to lobby, what I said was this would be up for discussion in December from accounts I have heard .
Are you now seriously trying to say this won’t come up for discussion or what are you trying to say.
But don’t go spreading more lies about people, you’ve done that enough, I know what I said and it’s not the usual peddling of lies your again posting , grow up and stop trolling .
Before you started your SPIN. SPIN starting after painting yourself into a corner
Right idiot stop trolling you are by far the biggest troll on this forum . And that what you just posted is 100% correct, I mean where on that post does it say got FAA website on 1st December, last time I tell you stop thrashing other threads and stop trolling .
hallmark007 Posted at 12-4 09:58
Right idiot stop trolling you are by far the biggest troll on this forum . And that what you just posted is 100% correct, last time I tell you stop thrashing other threads and stop trolling .
Notice you didn't highlight this part of your post #27.
maybe some moderator will ask him to stop, he is clearly Drunk making no sense nobody is interested, the funniest thing about this guy is he doesn't even fly a drone.
HEDGETRIMMER= TROLL = NOW GO AWAY AND TROLL SOMEWHERE ELSE >
hallmark007 Posted at 12-4 09:58
Right idiot stop trolling you are by far the biggest troll on this forum . And that what you just posted is 100% correct, I mean where on that post does it say got FAA website on 1st December, last time I tell you stop thrashing other threads and stop trolling .
hallmark007 - "last time I tell you stop thrashing other threads and stop trolling"
Another false accusation.
Responding with Facts is not trashing or trolling. It is you who continues to Troll-n-Trash theads with Twists, SPINing, Deceptions, and your Insults and non-sense of comenters.
All of this because you made posts blamming FAA for what DJI choose to do, without reading what FAA was calling for, and ignoring FAA was not taking public input on Remote ID.
hallmark007 Posted at 12-4 10:05
maybe some moderator will ask him to stop, he is clearly Drunk making no sense nobody is interested, the funniest thing about this guy is he doesn't even fly a drone.
What you are really saying is, you (hallmarkk007) has right to insult members, call them liars, make false statements, and mislead others, and those members (being troll-n-trash) do not have right to defend themselves.
I didn't miss the class but I did miss the day they appointed you headmaster, I have also noticed that with all posts extracts I see posted on this forum now you chose to go down 3 pages to find one post to comment on, I think this forum is indebted to you and I look forward to see you get other users into line, and maybe someday you might comment on a topic .
good day .
i have also noticed all your posts seem be on same threads as your friend above, i wonder . Very strange indeed.
It's very strange how your friend above should ignore this paragraph which clearly mentions nothing about dji forcing a new app on anyone least of all the public, but ignoring this paragraph is just ridiculous.
The NPRM will describe how remote ID information will be collected, managed and distributed in various levels to different stakeholders. The electronic registration number of nearby drones (within 400m) should be visible to the public on a smart phone via Bluetooth 4 and WIFI communications. Law enforcement agencies will have more information about the drone’s ownership at longer ranges, via more powerful handheld devices.
It clearly says "NPRM will show how Remote ID information WILL be collected"
Guys please …… these forums are for peacefully discuss the technical problems we are having and find solution to them not to insult each other.
I am sure we are all educated adults and know how to respect each other even we do not agree with the forum members opinions or thoughts.
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