CE policy of dumbing down drone range .. WHY?
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PhasedSpaces
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Hi,
Perhaps someone is in the know, buy WHY does the European Union keep downing down the specs of drones with regards to range / transmission output, when compared to the US released equivalent.
The Mini for example: Theoretical 4km transmission range in US, only 2Km in Europe?
The new Air 2: 10km theoretical range in the US, but aparrently will only be 6km in Europe.
I imagine it's the same story for the other Drones, not just by DJI but other makers as well.

WHY does the European Union keep on insisting on dumbing down transmission power/range ?
Is it a soppy controlling Nanny State mentality? - The same controlling mentality that for example has seen Vacuum cleaners weakend down from 2000w to just 900w max  - Or where they physically impose maximun DB levels in Headphones/Eaphones - Because we can't be trusted to control the volume ourselves!  Or is there a REAL legitmimate reason?   
Sorry, but simply stating that Europe doesn't allow the same transmiision dB as in the US.. WHY NOT?
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Geebax
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Europe and the UK are relatively small in physical area compared to the US and other larger countries, therefore there are many more people using WiFi in a given area. Remember, this rule was brought in to regulate WiFi useage, not drones, but because drones use the same frequencies, they must come under the same regulations. If you were able to use higher power in the EU, you would be interferring with other users to a much greater extent. And the EU is not 'dumbing down' the specs, the specs were drawn up by totally different countries with good reason, to suit their area.
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m80116
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Nanny state mentality. With more range you have more safety, not the contrary.

And anyway you still need a permit to even glance the drone: you can't fly above roads, you can't fly above towns, you can't fly above people, you can't fly above constructed private property, you cannot fly in parks, you cannot fly over nature reserves and national parks.

You can however fly above a stunningly beautiful potato field... providing the rustic owner with the pitchfork is of the same idea as you, which I highly doubt.
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Sean-newbie
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With regard to limiting the output of head phones etc, could it be that by the time the user of unrestricted head phones realises their headphones are too loud they have already damaged their hearing.  30+ years ago it was known that these personal headphones caused hearing damge. Being someone who has gone deaf, genetics related apparently, I can tell you you lose a lot. I haven't heard a song or music etc. in a decade
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m80116 Posted at 5-6 15:09
Nanny state mentality. With more range you have more safety, not the contrary.

And anyway you still need a permit to even glance the drone: you can't fly above roads, you can't fly above towns, you can't fly above people, you can't fly above constructed private property, you cannot fly in parks, you cannot fly over nature reserves and national parks.

With the result that we fly even where we cannot cheerfully ignoring harassing bans
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Renato61 Posted at 5-6 22:53
With the result that we fly even where we cannot cheerfully ignoring harassing bans

I don't think the regulations were set specifically for drones, they are just impacted by them

The rules are in place to protect key services from interference or disruption. Different regions allocate space in frequency bands in different ways, for example, I believe the emergency services in the US use different bands to those in the EU
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DAFlys
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CE radio power across the board is lower typically than the FCC due to higher population density.
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Haggi
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In EU wifi is regulated as "indoor use only"..
Hence the reduced power etc.
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m80116 Posted at 5-6 15:09
Nanny state mentality. With more range you have more safety, not the contrary.

And anyway you still need a permit to even glance the drone: you can't fly above roads, you can't fly above towns, you can't fly above people, you can't fly above constructed private property, you cannot fly in parks, you cannot fly over nature reserves and national parks.

you can't fly above towns, you can't fly above people, you can't fly above constructed private property, you cannot fly in parks, you cannot fly over nature reserves and national parks.

They’re you go again, giving out bad information, apart from national reserves and parks , you can fly over most towns, you can fly over people, you can fly in parks and you can fly over private property. Most property is owned privately so in order to get anywhere you need to fly over property that someone owns, flying over people well you are regulated by how many you fly over and how high you need to be and parks, there are plenty that you can still fly drones in.

Would you like a scrambler motor bike racing around your front garden or racing around the park while your children played, probably not so we have rules for this and it’s no different for drones .
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What's the point of a 10km range anyway. You always have to fly VLOS.
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itchyeyeballs Posted at 5-7 00:34
I don't think the regulations were set specifically for drones, they are just impacted by them

The rules are in place to protect key services from interference or disruption. Different regions allocate space in frequency bands in different ways, for example, I believe the emergency services in the US use different bands to those in the EU

Of course, but there are other limitations whose sum determines very limited use.
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TrippleDelta Posted at 5-7 04:50
What's the point of a 10km range anyway. You always have to fly VLOS.

VLOS navigation is an idiocy, beyond 300 meters it is impossible to see the drone.
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In CE this has to do with the fact that certain frequencies are used by other parties mainly telecom and military and that is why in Europe you can’t use the whole frequency bandlist that 5.8ghz covers. This is why it is limited in range in Europe
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Geebax Posted at 5-6 14:51
Europe and the UK are relatively small in physical area compared to the US and other larger countries, therefore there are many more people using WiFi in a given area. Remember, this rule was brought in to regulate WiFi useage, not drones, but because drones use the same frequencies, they must come under the same regulations. If you were able to use higher power in the EU, you would be interferring with other users to a much greater extent. And the EU is not 'dumbing down' the specs, the specs were drawn up by totally different countries with good reason, to suit their area.

Nice explanation thanks
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GregT. Posted at 5-7 05:40
In CE this has to do with the fact that certain frequencies are used by other parties mainly telecom and military and that is why in Europe you can’t use the whole frequency bandlist that 5.8ghz covers. This is why it is limited in range in Europe

I think its the power thats restricted in 5.8Ghz rather than the frequencies available.
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