BoxedSoul Posted at 6-11 15:18
Dude, first of all, I am not targeting you directly here, but everyone saying “buy the drone with those features then” is completely  missing the point here... it’s not about “another user crying because they can’t afford the DJI drone with more features.” It’s about people who buy the mini because it is small, compact and you can take it anywhere, that and the fact in many countries, you do NOT need to register it, nor do you need a special pilot certificate to fly it...

When the mini first came out, it did not have 24fps frame rates, it did not have manual control of video settings like shutter speed and ISO, and what, 2 or 3 firmware updates later what happened?? We got 24fps for both 2.7K and 1080p video modes, and they gave us manual video exposure control!!

Me actually seeing some 3rd party dev implementing it to a tello was actually a game changer. I'm going wild on advertising this issue. And I'm not even talking about the 4k60fps capability of it and its overheating etc. Because I literally saw 100's of teardowns of osmo pockets and and they both have the ambarella video processing unit. Heatsink is not an issue. An airborne mini will not get hot with that amount of airflow more than a handheld osmo pocket.
Buuut thats another story.

So I'm going to  summarize what I think people will do.(or in this case what I would do)
Think of both apps having the same exact attributes.
Active track litchi vs active track djifly --> Active track djifly
Active track litchi vs No active track djifly --> Active track litchi
Active track litchi+4k30/60fps vs active track djifly --> Active Track Litchi+4k30/60fps
Active track litchi+4k30/60fps vs active track djifly+4k30/60fps --> Active Track djifly+4k30/60fps
Do you get my point here? But I dont care about 4k if i'm soo desparate of 4k I'll just attach a gopro on top. Seen lots of people happy with the setup.

As a default I would love to use Dji Fly as a deafult. But if litchi gives an active track of some sort, sorry man gonna pay litchi for that.
We as users, expect Dji to do this natively so we dont have to use 3rd party apps. And not because people don't have the money, I think if you're taking drones as an hobby you know you are going to spend a few thousand bucks. But solely of its capability to be usable everywhere without any sort of restriction.
Oh maybe its unusable only in japan(which dji has designed 1100mah batteries for) because the regulations state drones should be registered over 200gr.(but thats an exception)

I ordered a pgytech necklace for the mini. Imagine a Mavic Air 2 hanging around your neck.. And I'm a 6'2  fit guy don't get me wrong.

Dirty Bird Posted at 6-11 14:09
I do not understand why people buy a drone that lacks a "must have" feature they insist they need, then clamoring for the feature to be retroactively added?  If you had to have Active Track, or immediate access to Waypoint flight, then the Mini was a bad choice.  

Purchase a model that includes the features you desire!

Well said...very well said...hmmmm...

fans1cafe718 Posted at 6-11 18:07
Get a cheapo drone and stop pollution...cry-baby MASTER...pfft...u shame Canadians...

So tell me, IF DJI were to release an update that gave you some kind of tracking outside of Quick Shots, would you use it? I’m guessing not, because there’s no OA and you’d be afraid to crash it.

fans1cafe718 Posted at 6-11 18:07
Get a cheapo drone and stop pollution...cry-baby MASTER...pfft...u shame Canadians...

...u buying a hyundai and want it to run like a porsche...?

Obviously you haven't seen the Hyundai Genesis G80 : ))
Lets say MM is a Land Rover Evoque and MA2 is a Mercedes G Class.
Evoque Still capable of 4x4 but will get ruffed around the edges : ))

"you are shaming us canadians" :'))) this guy.

fans1cafe718 Posted at 6-11 18:21
...and when u do crash it...u gonna cry/whine again??

...hey, stop shaming us ok??

Almost 45,000 feet logged and haven’t crashed it yet... if and when I do crash, I have DJI Refresh, but I’m not going to crash because I always have VLOS on my mini

Floki Chan AKA. EZpawn Posted at 6-11 18:27
Obviously you haven't seen the Hyundai Genesis G80 : ))
Lets say MM is a Land Rover Evoque and MA2 is a Mercedes G Class.
Evoque Still capable of 4x4 but will get ruffed around the edges : ))

..oh yeah..is like suckers festival

fans1cafe718 Posted at 6-11 18:40
...ahhhh-soooo,

hmmmm, so u are an "Authority" on this CRY-BABY subject,,,so, you gonna ORGANIZE MANIFESTATIONS across the WORLD to get Active Track on ur fregging LIL"MINI...?

No “Authority” but experienced R/C quad and heli flyer...

Obviously you haven’t read all the posts here... I mentioned if not FULL AT, some kind of object tracking similar to what is in the Quick Shots (and controlled by the Fly App), available for regular video mode that would keep an object positioned in frame while you move around... it can be done without OA, because it’s already doing it for quick shots... if you crash it’s because you aren’t paying attention to your surroundings and it’s your own damn fault. It’s really not that unreasonable of a request,

And I am Canadian - from the East Coast - are you? You have no respect for other posters in this topic.

fans1cafe718 Posted at 6-11 18:53
...hmmm, get a licence stuped...it's easy peasy...watsa-matta??

...you brain damaged??

What are you, 12 years old?? Isn’t it past your bedtime? And learn how to spell, dumb@ss...
And if this topic bugs you so much, why do you keep posting in it?? I find it amusing that you are so easily goaded into continually posting in a topic that furiates you so much... ROFLMAO!!!

fans1cafe718 Posted at 6-11 18:59
Hey...stop whining....we are Canucks...but plz stop whining...ok?

I’m guessing by your attitude that I am more “Canadian” than you ever will be...

Dirty Bird Posted at 6-11 19:02
Well, you go on begging & wishing for the feature to be added.   Just like all the prior posts over the last six months making the same request.  

Carry on....

...well said bud...

Dirty Bird Posted at 6-11 19:02
Well, you go on begging & wishing for the feature to be added.   Just like all the prior posts over the last six months making the same request.  

Carry on....

That is why this is not called begging page, but a poll. Which at this moment is at 80%. You know in general regulations around the world all it takes is a solid 2/3 which is 66% to change the constitution.
Get the point?
And dear sir why do you object to this matter and don't want this change to happen?
Have you read every single post and the points made?

BoxedSoul Posted at 6-11 19:05
I’m guessing by your attitude that I am more “Canadian” than you ever will be...

You are a BEGGAR...so SHAMEFUL!
No Canadians BEG!

BoxedSoul Posted at 6-11 19:05
I’m guessing by your attitude that I am more “Canadian” than you ever will be...

....hmmm, u are hu...?

fans1cafe718 Posted at 6-11 18:59
Hey...stop whining....we are Canucks...but plz stop whining...ok?

...because I paid so much more to get all those extras in a more advanced drone.

Oh, so you’re one of those guys: if some sort of tracking feature does come to the MM  you’re going to have buyers remorse because you paid double what the MM cost... look, I’m not knocking the features of the higher drones, and even with tracking added to the mini, it’s still not going to be a Mavic Air 2 or Mavic Pro/2 Pro, but it is a feature that tons of people want in the mini - everyone who says “it’s not going happen, give it up”, or “you’re flogging a dead horse“ (nice reference to the Sex Pistols btw) - I say this: how many said you’re not going to get manual video control on the mini, and yet now we have it... just saying....

BoxedSoul Posted at 6-11 19:05
I’m guessing by your attitude that I am more “Canadian” than you ever will be...

...hmmm, I stand with u fellow Canuck...but, we differ in opinion..

cheers bud...but plz no shame us

Dirty Bird Posted at 6-11 19:22
This is not a Democracy.  Polling of a couple hundred people isn't going to change things.   Do a forum search on the topic.   Activetrack for the Mini has been requested & discussed at length many times.

I don't have a personal issue with Activetrack one way or the other.  I do hate to see people wasting their time requesting a feature they are unlikely to get.

...yep!

...well said.

period

Dirty Bird Posted at 6-11 19:22
This is not a Democracy.  Polling of a couple hundred people isn't going to change things.   Do a forum search on the topic.   Activetrack for the Mini has been requested & discussed at length many times.

I don't have a personal issue with Activetrack one way or the other.  I do hate to see people wasting their time requesting a feature they are unlikely to get.

I have been doing my research trust me. I have been also fiddling around the dji assistant with py too. Don't get me wrong i'm trying to find a way as this is my job. But  we are dealing with people like @fan1 who create topics like "Mini is just a mini so stop asking for at for the thousandth time". Which makes me even want to defend and stick to where I am at now even more. I'm sorry I might not be as "experienced" whatever that means. as you guys are but I hell know how to win a debate regarding to technological issues as I was a business analyst in a bank and my job was/is to negotiate. So this is merely a negotiation.
If you would've read the topic from tip to toe you would've seen everyone is making a point and everyone is talking, assessing with each other on "civilized terms" and not trolling. I felt like I was offending @hallmark because I thought we were the same age but his misunderstanding was relative to his age. So I apologized from him because that's my upbringing.
And again grab a cup of coffee -I dont know what time is it in states-and just take your time reading all the comments..
You wont regret it. Or just be against it and vote against and "carry on".. Is that how you said it?

Dirty Bird Posted at 6-11 19:22
This is not a Democracy.  Polling of a couple hundred people isn't going to change things.   Do a forum search on the topic.   Activetrack for the Mini has been requested & discussed at length many times.

I don't have a personal issue with Activetrack one way or the other.  I do hate to see people wasting their time requesting a feature they are unlikely to get.

Just curious, if it’s not a Democracy, what is it then? Socialist? Communist? Anarchist? Why do polls exist in Internet forum discussions then? Do we all not have freedom of choice? Freedom of speech? The internet has always been free speech. We have the freedom to make the choice to post a poll asking people’s opinion, and people have the choice to respond to that poll or not. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and everyone is entitled to voice what they want. A request for a feature (whether it will ever happen or not) is just that, a feature request. I like to think that great companies that listen to feedback from their customers and at least try to answer feature requests or offer alternatives are companies that tend to have better customer loyalty.

The fact, as you mentioned it, that there are multiple topics on requests for Active Track on the Mini indicates that it is probably THE MOST REQUESTED feature - whether or not DJI brings that feature to the mini, they should at least offer an alternative solution that will satisfy the customers requesting it. Part of the problem is too many people with “tunnel vision” and sticking with “I know how they operate, and it will never happen” mentality.

From a sales and marketing perspective, DJI has pretty much cornered the “under 250 grams” market with the release of the Mavic Mini, so many people are buying it for that reason... add some kind of tracking function (not necessarily Active Track) and you have just increased sales of the Mini. Hell, if I had a choice between a mini without tracking and a mini with tracking for $100 more, I would have spent the extra $100... so, no, it’s not about the money, it’s more about the size, and portability, and being under the 250g weight restriction. Even if DJI was to offer tracking update to the mini at a cost, I would pay the fee to have it, rather than buying a Mavic Air 2 (which ultimately at some point down the road I just may do that)

BoxedSoul Posted at 6-11 19:49
Just curious, if it’s not a Democracy, what is it then? Socialist? Communist? Anarchist? Why do polls exist in Internet forum discussions then? Do we all not have freedom of choice? Freedom of speech? The internet has always been free speech. We have the freedom to make the choice to post a poll asking people’s opinion, and people have the choice to respond to that poll or not. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and everyone is entitled to voice what they want. A request for a feature (whether it will ever happen or not) is just that, a feature request. I like to think that great companies that listen to feedback from their customers and at least try to answer feature requests or offer alternatives are companies that tend to have better customer loyalty.

The fact, as you mentioned it, that there are multiple topics on requests for Active Track on the Mini indicates that it is probably THE MOST REQUESTED feature - whether or not DJI brings that feature to the mini, they should at least offer an alternative solution that will satisfy the customers requesting it. Part of the problem is too many people with “tunnel vision” and sticking with “I know how they operate, and it will never happen” mentality.

Why do polls exist in Internet forum discussions then?
Good question.
I don't think there's an answer.
I also don't think I've seen a poll here that served any purpose or one that achieved anything.

The fact, as you mentioned it, that there are multiple topics on requests for Active Track on the Mini indicates that it is probably THE MOST REQUESTED feature - whether or not DJI brings that feature to the mini, they should at least offer an alternative solution that will satisfy the customers requesting it.
You must have missed it.
DJI did offer a new alternative and already had several existing ones.

Labroides Posted at 6-11 20:52
Why do polls exist in Internet forum discussions then?
Good question.
I don't think there's an answer.

I guess I did miss it... what were they?

BoxedSoul Posted at 6-11 21:00
I guess I did miss it... what were they?

Really     ??

Dirty Bird Posted at 6-11 19:22
This is not a Democracy.  Polling of a couple hundred people isn't going to change things.   Do a forum search on the topic.   Activetrack for the Mini has been requested & discussed at length many times.

I don't have a personal issue with Activetrack one way or the other.  I do hate to see people wasting their time requesting a feature they are unlikely to get.

It is their time. Let them. You do not want to waste yours, do not look. There is nothing wrong requesting features. I can buy a whole fleet of DJI top models and still request to have features added to the mini. And from our experience so far, DJI does add things if they want, people just need to tell DJI what they want so they at least have a chance.

Plain and simple the mini just does not have the vision sensors on board for the Active track feature nor is the chip inside that computes active track. Beating a dead horse here

playtime1 Posted at 6-2 18:28
You won't be  the last people always want something for nothing. And if it's that important you should have bought a drone that had it. Don't buy bottom of the line and expect all the bells and whistles.

Boo hoo ,actually the mini wasn’t for nothing.

playtime1 Posted at 6-2 18:28
You won't be  the last people always want something for nothing. And if it's that important you should have bought a drone that had it. Don't buy bottom of the line and expect all the bells and whistles.

https://forum44.djicdn.com/static/image/smiley/emoji/9_2x.gif

DJWacko Posted at 6-12 04:24
Boo hoo ,actually the mini wasn’t for nothing.

boohoo...boohoo...boohoo...cry baby...cry

Floki Chan AKA. EZpawn Posted at 6-11 16:51
Me actually seeing some 3rd party dev implementing it to a tello was actually a game changer. I'm going wild on advertising this issue. And I'm not even talking about the 4k60fps capability of it and its overheating etc. Because I literally saw 100's of teardowns of osmo pockets and and they both have the ambarella video processing unit. Heatsink is not an issue. An airborne mini will not get hot with that amount of airflow more than a handheld osmo pocket.
Buuut thats another story.

Because I literally saw 100's of teardowns of osmo pockets and and they both have the ambarella video processing unit. Heatsink is not an issue. An airborne mini will not get hot with that amount of airflow more than a handheld osmo pocket.


I feel like you never read my earlier posts, I quote "It has a strong enough processor, it's camera can produce raw and shoot in 4k. It's the Smaller Heatsink that prevents the use of 4k on the camera, and it's the smaller memory {aka RAM) that prevents the mini from computing larger tasks, and it's the programing that prevents raw output. "

The processor is the same across many of DJI's products but it's not only the hardware limitations but software, DJI has Programed the mini to NOT OUTPUT RAW. I can show you videos explaining the Heat Sink as it is considerably smaller then the one used on the Spark and Osmo.

The mini's camera like others have no active cooling, it's PASSIVE cooling meaning it's only the Air around the camera that keeps it "Cool", with the current bit rate and 2.7k the camera gets hot but doesn't overheat. If they changed it to 4k the camera would over heat if you were just hovering. If you think the airflow from the props is washing over the camera you are mistaken. The props actually create a dead zone of air around the camera (more of washing the air away then creating a pocket of still air) and unless you are actively flying and not hovering the camera would quickly overheat at 4k. Where as the 2.7k of the mini doesn't overheat because it's not exceeding the thermal limits of it's hardware.

The osmo isn't any different, it has a larger heatsink that can dissipate heat quicker, it's design is an open body to allow airflow to cross over the osmo so it can be "Passively" cooled.

stephjant Posted at 6-12 06:12
Personally I'm ambivalent about this feature.  I would only consider using active tracking while mountain biking or skiing - and in both cases there would be too many obstacles to content with.  I suspect there is a potential litigation issue given the drone has no obstacle avoidance.  Just imagine using active tracking and your drone flies into someone's face?  I know the MM has quick shot features, but given its limited capability the risk of injury is very low.  I think people need to get real and ask for sensible enhancements.  If you want safe active tracking buy a different drone that has obstacle avoidance!!

Just for the record, you can do a Circle Quick Shot at 3-4 feet off the ground - I’ve done it in a large open parking lot - Circle Quick Shot maintains the same altitude as it circles around the object you are tracking, and you only have the ability to STOP the Quick Shot - you have to use judgement and common sense before operating a drone in ANY flight - where some sort of simple “Tracking” outside of Quick Shots would come in handy is for full manual control of the drone while tracking an object.

I shoot a lot of vehicle videos, and this would be stellar for those smooth strafing shots circling around a stationary vehicle, I’m not talking about follow or parallel tracking of a moving vehicle - that I can do manually - almost all of the newer 3 axis gimbals for DSLR and Mirrorless cameras have a tracking feature. What I want is the ability to have smoother transitions around the vehicle, not a slide left, yaw right, slide left, yaw right - keeping the vehicle I am tracking positioned in frame, maintaining a smooth yaw as I pan around the vehicle. Yes, I know, practice, practice, practice... but you cant disagree that this kind of feature would be a welcome feature for many of us.

ABeardedItalian Posted at 6-12 05:48
Because I literally saw 100's of teardowns of osmo pockets and and they both have the ambarella video processing unit. Heatsink is not an issue. An airborne mini will not get hot with that amount of airflow more than a handheld osmo pocket.

While this is great technical reasoning, and I know you are just explaining to Floki Chan, THIS topic was never about bringing 4K and RAW output to the mini, it is about bringing some kind of object tracking to it. I am new to DJI drones, but do have some experience flying. I bought my mini to add to my filmmaking kit, to be able to add an extra level of content to my videos, and have been quite please so far with the performance and video quality that this little beast puts out. At some point when my filmmaking requires a higher level of production, I will be looking at adding a Mavic Air 2 to my kit. For me, the mini gives me the ability to capture shots that I wouldn’t normally be able to capture any other way. The ability to track an object (like a stationary vehicle), keep it in frame while I manually control the mini around that object would make for even better shots. Trying to accomplish those kind of maneuvers manually, yes, it can be done, but not as smooth as with object tracking.

Hey, fellow Canuck...we are Canadians...we stick together.

We no fuss or whine...we just get things done.

I'll help you get your licence...pm me bud...I will help you.

Plz, be proud Canadian.

We not USA...WE CANADIANS...hey?  

ABeardedItalian Posted at 6-12 05:48
Because I literally saw 100's of teardowns of osmo pockets and and they both have the ambarella video processing unit. Heatsink is not an issue. An airborne mini will not get hot with that amount of airflow more than a handheld osmo pocket.

My friend, I have came across many of your messages regarding of your topic, even on the 40 angle tilt modding on the mavic mini. I know you are capable, and furthermore able to understand. As I have stated In my post that you replied. I cant care less about 4k, as far as I am concerned I can mount a gopro 8. and it will solve my issue. It will even solve the issue of not being able to resist the wind to be fair. I feel it is more stable that way,
If heatsink were to be a problem I have spent numerous hours on overclocking as I am an comp/softw engineer(its the way to go you know). I'd cut a fraction of my noctua d15 and tailor it and see how it performs. But as I have stated before..
"buuut thats another story": )) The topic is active track(follow me/tracking mode)!

You guys have to understand that "249gr" is the Unique Key here. Whatever other things you have in your mind is not relevant to the subject. But if you rip the Mavic air 2 to 249gr I'm selling my mavic mini right now...
I wont be able to hang it off my necklace but I'll get some belly bag or some military grade leg bag for it.
I really dont like editing my posts over and over again, But its better than flooding.
Dont get me wrong @Bearded I believe you are more than adequate and you have put a lot of effort and research and youve been also around on the mavicpilots etc. I do a lot of research before I talk, and when I am wrong about something I dont hesitate to apologize. If im wrong im wrong. period. But regarding to such matters of technical capabilities and possibilities, we all know there is always a workaround for stuff its not really hard to buy a super small fan and 3d print the under cover of the mini with some cadcam program and solder it to some V output. And you know its true, yeah you will break some of them yeah you will mess up the stuff etc. but still its progress. And I believe the only reason for the delayed sdk is because of the capabilities of this Atom Ant. This is solely a marketing strategy. But a really not calculated one imo. Can you imagine how the vlog community will rush to buy these once active track is available? Imagine a non visible cameraman. Im telling you guys.. Whoever is into investment. Should Stock these up... You will one day come and upvote my comment... If dji fly doesnt do this.. Someone will.. trust me.. And that someone will gain alot of money... Why kill the market of your own when you can sell this as some sort of "activation app" or some "plugin". Dji has to really think alot about this.

Floki Chan AKA. EZpawn Posted at 6-12 08:48
My friend, I have came across many of your messages regarding of your topic, even on the 40 angle tilt modding on the mavic mini. I know you are capable, and furthermore able to understand. As I have stated In my post that you replied. I cant care less about 4k, as far as I am concerned I can mount a gopro 8. and it will solve my issue. It will even solve the issue of not being able to resist the wind to be fair. I feel it is more stable that way,
If heatsink were to be a problem I have spent numerous hours on overclocking as I am an comp/softw engineer(its the way to go you know). I'd cut a fraction of my noctua d15 and tailor it and see how it performs. But as I have stated before..
"buuut thats another story": )) The topic is active track(follow me/tracking mode)!

I’m unsure why the need for 249g, yes you don’t have to register, saving of €5, yet everyone here says money is not the problem, so is it size, if yes then you know you are deeply hampered by fact you can only fly on days when wind is pretty calm.
You still have to fly within the same rules almost everywhere
The fact that you don’t register will block you from ever flying in lots of places
In Europe and I’m certain it will come in US registration will become normal practice
You fly with a lot less power
You fly with a lot less distance & signal
You have a craft with minimal features
You have a craft with an inferior camera
Your safety features are minimal

So I have yet to here anyone tell me the real advantages of owning a 249g, except saving €5 and filling out a form.

hallmark007 Posted at 6-12 10:57
I’m unsure why the need for 249g, yes you don’t have to register, saving of €5, yet everyone here says money is not the problem, so is it size, if yes then you know you are deeply hampered by fact you can only fly on days when wind is pretty calm.
You still have to fly within the same rules almost everywhere
The fact that you don’t register will block you from ever flying in lots of places

I’m sorry, but how does NOT registering it BLOCK you from ever flying in lots of places?? I don’t think the DJI Fly app is connected to, or communicating with government agencies and require you to have the mini registered to be able to fly somewhere.

I am in Canada and close to an international airport and I can still fly it here. I get warnings that I am near a large airport in the Fly App, and only have to check the box that says I assume full responsibility for my actions. It will also tell me that there is an altitude restriction of 200 feet, or something in that range depending on where I am - and regardless of what my maximum altitude is set at in the app, it physically will NOT let me fly any higher than the altitude it stated in the warning. I did have one situation that required to request a zone unlock, and that also did NOT block me from flying either. I generally don’t fly much higher than 100 feet, and usually not more than 50 feet away from me, and I always maintain VLOS or have someone maintain VLOS at all times.

BoxedSoul Posted at 6-12 11:31
I’m sorry, but how does NOT registering it BLOCK you from ever flying in lots of places?? I don’t think the DJI Fly app is connected to, or communicating with government agencies and require you to have the mini registered to be able to fly somewhere.

I am in Canada and close to an international airport and I can still fly it here. I get warnings that I am near a large airport in the Fly App, and only have to check the box that says I assume full responsibility for my actions. I did have one situation that required to request a zone unlock, and that also did NOT block me from flying either. I generally don’t fly much higher than 100 feet, and usually not more than 50 feet away from me, and I always maintain VLOS or have someone maintain VLOS at all times.

Your NFZ are exactly the same as mine, so no difference and open flying is again exactly the same as mine.
But as a commercial Registered pilot I can request to fly in NFZ including controlled airspace where no drones will be allowed fly without registration.

So again is it really only down to €5 that people choose to only allow themselves get a mini, because this is only advantage I can see.

I own a mini and purchased for specific use and tasks, I knew it’s spec before I purchased and anything that was added later was a bonus, equally I knew it’s limitations and knew what it would never have, but on threads like this I’m slightly amused at the sheer lack of savvy and the fact as DB has said so many threads with Pointless nonsensical arguments. But if AT is what you’re looking for then you made a bad choice.

hallmark007 Posted at 6-12 11:46
Your NFZ are exactly the same as mine, so no difference and open flying is again exactly the same as mine.
But as a commercial Registered pilot I can request to fly in NFZ including controlled airspace where no drones will be allowed fly without registration.

I can hardly argue with that. Its not the matter of "if" its the matter of when.. If not with dji fly app then something else.
And I don't plan on tracking my self on an airport runway while running to boost my adrenaline.So NFZ is totally irrelevant in my case.

I just want to travel to alot of countries and if I ever get pulled of by some country customs security. My drone will not get confiscated nor will I be forced to register it because of its size/weight.
We have had this debate at the beginning with you @hallmark and you called it gibberish. But that has been my angle all along.
As I repeat it again I am planning to travel the world. Money is not my issue.(or concern tbh)
Ok: Quick edit. My girlfriend lives in moscow. And as soon as the pandemic thing starts to loosen up. Im going there. And I have no idea of kyrill alphabet so Im basically going into alien land. When I get out of there, there is no problem for me. But untill I leave the airport. I am a chicken with its head cut off. Lets say Customs security finds me shady and wants to check my bag and sees a drone. I have no photography licence, no education towards photography etc. What will he do? He will weigh the drone through the regulations. And what will happen When a mavic air 2 is above the 499gr threshhold. They will tell me to fill in a form of kyrill "which I still see as alien language" and then let me pass or confiscate the drone regarding the current circumstances. (And dont tell me english is a universal language, they will tell you russian is universal language, been there done that...)
But the minis 249 will minimize the amount of "f*ckups" I might have. Is why it is important. For people who will stay in their house. No problem go buy the matrice 300 and fly it around your house. Feel free to active track a bus. But travelers like me would literally do anything for an attribute like active track on the mini.
And we have seen it being possible on the tello.. The tello ffs..

Dirty Bird Posted at 6-11 14:09
I do not understand why people buy a drone that lacks a "must have" feature they insist they need, then clamor for the feature to be retroactively added?  If you had to have Active Track, or immediate access to Waypoint flight, then the Mini was a bad choice.  

Purchase a model that includes the features you desire!

My friend, I answer you quickly. We look for DJI quality in its drones, active tracking, and the trick why the Mavic Mini ... THE WEIGHT OF 250g. That is why the follow-up is requested with such enthusiasm, because the mini is the ONLY dron of DJI with the indicated weight to fly without licenses or permits, in the city and above people, in most countries of course. A greeting.

Floki Chan AKA. EZpawn Posted at 6-12 12:18
I can hardly argue with that. Its not the matter of "if" its the matter of when.. If not with dji fly app then something else.
And I don't plan on tracking my self on an airport runway while running to boost my adrenaline.So NFZ is totally irrelevant in my case.

bla...bla...bla...every country has their regs...

...and SOME very corrupt...hu??

(hint...TURKEY)

...so, who you think u are mister "BANK MANAGER"...??

Labroides Posted at 6-2 21:09
there's no reason why the Mini can't have it
No reason at all ... unless you count a lack of critical hardware features necessary to run active tracking.

Does it really need obstacle ovoidance to track? The way I see it, It already recognize a subject, all it needs is to follow it, no need for the obstacle ovoidance. Of course it would be a safety issue if people put it too low and go around trees, but if it is high enough, it would not need that hardware.