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Waypoint Missions Mavic Mini support on sdk but not on DJIFLY
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Like you know ,SDK has been released,it gives the choice and the compatibility to make waypoint missions,this is one of the features which DJI team is not adding to Mavic Mini users,and i wonder WHY? even the SDK supports this on one of the examples?

are they waiting for 3rd party apps like litchi make this ? it would undervalue DJIFLY app on my viewpoint ...

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7-29 08:24
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Dmitry Vishnevskiy
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Litchi team says that Mini SDK not support waypoint and orbit functions...
From a e-mail from Litchi: "Please note that DJI's waypoint and orbit mode are not supported in the mavic mini SDK. Other Litchi flight modes should be supported."
7-29 08:32
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Probably not to undermine future MA2 SDK waypoint support, 2nd reason could be lower tier class being too risky to allow such a great potential.
7-29 08:57
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Hi. Thank you for reaching out to DJI Forum and sharing your personal insights regarding this feature. The WayPoint is not supported for safety reason, since the DJI Mavic Mini does not have any obstacle avoidance. Thank you.
7-29 22:27
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Well,, according this answer, Mavic Mini shouldnt have any quickshot mode,I mean that waypoint mode should bé used on the same way , being responsable about you Are flying on a free obstacles environment same as When quickshots are used, do not bé offended,but I think that is not a reliable excuse
7-29 23:50
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This needs some clarification - the Mini won't get support to fly it's own autonomous waypoint missions, but 3rd party software that actually communicates with the drone during the mission can still fly to waypoints and can carry out whatever features the app allows - EG See Dronelink as an example of an app that works this way. It will be fully functional on the Mini with this SDK support.
7-30 00:08
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For the safety reasons DJI shouldn't allow DJI Mini to take off
I bet that the true reason is just "We need more gold!!!". Which is fare enough, just have enough courage to admin that
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7-30 01:12
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slipushenkogmail.com Posted at 7-30 01:12
For the safety reasons DJI shouldn't allow DJI Mini to take off
I bet that the true reason is just "We need more gold!!!". Which is fare enough, just have enough courage to admin that
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I am perfectly agree,, althought it's something dumb, if they give more power to the mini it can be a top seller and profitable for them according thw low cost materials which mini uses... I dont think that they sell MA2 on the same quantities/profit as mini , on my opinion they are making bad marketing campaign, it would be very nice if Autel would release somekind of mini drone too,, it would be the beginning of the right competition (or war)
7-30 02:02
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DJI Paladin Posted at 7-29 22:27
Hi. Thank you for reaching out to DJI Forum and sharing your personal insights regarding this feature. The WayPoint is not supported for safety reason, since the DJI Mavic Mini does not have any obstacle avoidance. Thank you.

The Phantom 3 series had no obstacle avoidance either, yet Waypoints was supported for them.  
7-30 04:06
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Dirty Bird Posted at 7-30 04:06
The Phantom 3 series had no obstacle avoidance either, yet Waypoints was supported for them.

Mavic Mini has one more weak point - weak wind resistance. The chance of losing a drone while autonomously flying to points is much higher than for Phantom 3.
7-30 04:23
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Dmitry Vishnevskiy Posted at 7-30 04:23
Mavic Mini has one more weak point - weak wind resistance. The chance of losing a drone while autonomously flying to points is much higher than for Phantom 3.

Any excuse is good for denying features that are safely usable. I don't understand what is for sure in a forced landing, which could take place in the middle of a highway
7-30 04:35
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Dmitry Vishnevskiy Posted at 7-30 04:23
Mavic Mini has one more weak point - weak wind resistance. The chance of losing a drone while autonomously flying to points is much higher than for Phantom 3.

Proper consideration of flight conditions is up to the pilot.  Any bird can fail if one chooses to fly in wind beyond the aircraft's limits.
7-30 04:48
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Renato61 Posted at 7-30 04:35
Any excuse is good for denying features that are safely usable. I don't understand what is for sure in a forced landing, which could take place in the middle of a highway
You comment reminded me of something that happened last weekend.  I was flying the Mini near Martin's Airport in a self-authorize zone.  I was right next to the red NFZ glidepath for the runway.   It was only about a block away.

I deliberately attempted to fly into the NFZ just to test how the Mini would respond.   The aircraft stopped as it entered the NFZ.  After a few seconds a pop-up advised I had entered restricted airspace with a warning to exit immediately.  I was able to turn & exit the NFZ with no forced landing.  This is actually good news & the way the software should respond to an incursion into restricted airspace.
7-30 05:00
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Can't see safety being a reason as DJI have stated refresh is invalid if crashes whilst using a 3rd party app?

Virtual joystick waypoint missions seem far more risky considering how easy it is for the mini to lose reception.

Very disappointing tbh. Programmable waypoints would have made up for the minis sporadic reception problems.

7-30 11:22
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Dirty Bird Posted at 7-30 04:48
Proper consideration of flight conditions is up to the pilot.  Any bird can fail if one chooses to fly in wind beyond the aircraft's limits.

Choosing a drone that suits his needs is also up to the pilot. Why buy a Mavic Mini if it was known in advance that it does not support the required modes?
7-30 11:53
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DJI has said in other threads because of the following: Safety Reasons such as No obstacle avoidance, SDK developers have said it's because of Firmware/Hardware limitations.

Simple truth, the mini doesn't have enough onboard memory to store location information. It's disabled/not supported because of this, Dronelink can only provide way-points because the Drone remains Connected At All Times. If in the event of losing connection RTH responds as normal, This would be the same as flying yourself but following a per-programed flight path. (You know, like a Quick Shot.) DJI's way-point system stores location on the drone and can Operate remotely without a constant need for radio connection.

While many don't like it, DJI isn't the same pony it use to be. It will adapt and adhere to new laws and regulations, if today in 2020 and forward they have changed there policy to not support X because of the Lack of Obstacle avoidance sensors then so be it. Be thankful your Early drone had support, but in today's Drones DJI has adopted a new policy to not support these features without an avoidance system. This is all without considering the legal aspect of things, DJI will continue to do it's best to find the middle ground.
7-30 13:08
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Dmitry Vishnevskiy Posted at 7-30 11:53
Choosing a drone that suits his needs is also up to the pilot. Why buy a Mavic Mini if it was known in advance that it does not support the required modes?
No one thought the Mini was crippled & believed it was merely a matter of waiting for the SDK to be released.  Memory is dirt cheap.  Difficult to believe the Mini has less available memory than an old Phantom 2, which was easily capable of storing waypoints onboard & running autonomous missions.  People buying a Mavic Air 2 will also be expecting it to be capable of running waypoint missions
7-30 16:49
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They can read the waypoints from a file inside microsd . This is pretty easy and a read function which i used on my "poor ram/cpu" designed devices on past,parameters should me similar as when they make a quickshot,or when rth is done,you are only commanding go from these coords to these others on a specific height..

Its same policy as boomerang,tiny Planet,active track modes,the most of the coding part is on the app software,over the firmware device they only set small functions requested by the API,why they do not enable It?  Money money policy
7-30 23:37
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Dirty Bird Posted at 7-30 16:49
No one thought the Mini was crippled & believed it was merely a matter of waiting for the SDK to be released.  Memory is dirt cheap.  Difficult to believe the Mini has less available memory than an old Phantom 2, which was easily capable of storing waypoints onboard & running autonomous missions.  People buying a Mavic Air 2 will also be expecting it to be capable of running waypoint missions

I honestly don't know what I was talking about, it dawned on me after the fact that the Hardware issue isn't memory but the missing OA sensors. The rest of the post still applies, if the mini doesn't have OA then it's never going to have headless(remote, hands free, tether-less) features.

Everyone wants to argue the Quick shots but You the pilot are the one Who's in control. If you start a Quick shot and Crash, that's on you and not the drone/DJI. It's clear, no OA no autonomous features.

Given the Fact that the Air 2 has OA and tracking. Way-points should also be available. I hope on the mini 2, mini pro, we will have OA and can perform accordingly in the future.

Personally the Way-points on a leash can still be useful but it lacks the fun that off leash flights would of provided. I had idea's already brewing on what I was going to try, it's a shame I live so close to an airport otherwise I'd upgrade to an Air2.
7-31 06:24
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