DAFlys Posted at 11-16 01:35
I sincerely doubt there will be any retrospective classification,  it would be impossible to enforce.

It's all very much up in the air. Glad I just sold my Mavic Air 2 for £850

A J Posted at 11-17 00:51
It's all very much up in the air. Glad I just sold my Mavic Air 2 for £850

Really you sold it?   What are you going to fly now?

DAFlys Posted at 11-17 01:27
Really you sold it?   What are you going to fly now?

Nothing for a while - taking delivery of my new iPhone 12 Pro Max today so that will keep me occupied for a few days then I may just get the Mini 2 FMC for the fun of it.

A J Posted at 11-17 01:28
Nothing for a while - taking delivery of my new iPhone 12 Pro Max today so that will keep me occupied for a few days then I may just get the Mini 2 FMC for the fun of it.

I got my iPhone 12 Pro Max on Friday.  very pleased with its bigger display and it still just about fits in the M2P controller.   

DAFlys Posted at 11-17 01:37
I got my iPhone 12 Pro Max on Friday.  very pleased with its bigger display and it still just about fits in the M2P controller.

Yes mate - it’s awesome! 800 nits, 6.7” screen, 5G and the CPU is super quick! Love the camera too! Really impressed.
Pick up my mini 2 fly more combo in the morning too - strange now having a phone worth twice the price of my drone lol

A J Posted at 11-17 14:11
Yes mate - it’s awesome! 800 nits, 6.7” screen, 5G and the CPU is super quick! Love the camera too! Really impressed.
Pick up my mini 2 fly more combo in the morning too - strange now having a phone worth twice the price of my drone lol

Id be tempted by a refurbed MA2 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DJI-M ... :g:6mEAAOSwmaBe9MeB

A J Posted at 11-17 14:11
Yes mate - it’s awesome! 800 nits, 6.7” screen, 5G and the CPU is super quick! Love the camera too! Really impressed.
Pick up my mini 2 fly more combo in the morning too - strange now having a phone worth twice the price of my drone lol

Id be tempted by a refurbed MA2 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DJI-M ... :g:6mEAAOSwmaBe9MeB

A J Posted at 11-17 14:11
Yes mate - it’s awesome! 800 nits, 6.7” screen, 5G and the CPU is super quick! Love the camera too! Really impressed.
Pick up my mini 2 fly more combo in the morning too - strange now having a phone worth twice the price of my drone lol

Id be tempted by a refurbed MA2

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DJI-M ... :g:6mEAAOSwmaBe9MeB

DAFlys Posted at 11-18 01:08
Id be tempted by a refurbed MA2

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DJI-Mavic-Air-2-Standard-Fly-More-Combo-Light-Grey-Fully-Refurbish/254635049186?hash=item3b496e80e2:g:6mEAAOSwmaBe9MeB

Why would I sell a nearly brand new MA2 to buy a refurb of the same drone

All sold and I now have the Mini 2 on its first charge! Looks cool

I just spoke to a DJI representative who said they will be offering retrospective CE marking on the Mavic air 2 for current owners. This should help with the longevity of the product and sounds like a more positive future for this model

A J Posted at 11-18 03:46
Why would I sell a nearly brand new MA2 to buy a refurb of the same drone

All sold and I now have the Mini 2 on its first charge! Looks cool

I was pulling your leg.   Will be interesting to see how you get on with the Mini 2.

DAFlys Posted at 11-18 06:05
I was pulling your leg.   Will be interesting to see how you get on with the Mini 2.

Love it mate - such a cool little drone and handled the winds really well. Very surprised as was half expecting a toy but more fool me. Going to enjoy flying this one.

djiuser_F27c0O1IB9fS Posted at 11-18 05:38
I just spoke to a DJI representative who said they will be offering retrospective CE marking on the Mavic air 2 for current owners. This should help with the longevity of the product and sounds like a more positive future for this model

Thats cool

A J Posted at 11-18 09:26
Love it mate - such a cool little drone and handled the winds really well. Very surprised as was half expecting a toy but more fool me. Going to enjoy flying this one.

Will this tide you over to a certified Mavic 3?

DAFlys Posted at 11-18 09:50
Will this tide you over to a certified Mavic 3?

I think it will mate - as long as the M3 is worth it  

djiuser_F27c0O1IB9fS Posted at 11-18 05:38
I just spoke to a DJI representative who said they will be offering retrospective CE marking on the Mavic air 2 for current owners. This should help with the longevity of the product and sounds like a more positive future for this model

Sounds like a good thing...bought my Air2 then found out about new rules coming in DOH

djiuser_F27c0O1IB9fS Posted at 11-18 05:38
I just spoke to a DJI representative who said they will be offering retrospective CE marking on the Mavic air 2 for current owners. This should help with the longevity of the product and sounds like a more positive future for this model

Accept that the UK nor the EU have announced they have back tracked on the no retrospective certification yet.  And without it being factory marked how could it be enforced or verified in the field.

DAFlys Posted at 11-18 09:50
Will this tide you over to a certified Mavic 3?

Im going to need a big excuse to upgrade to the Mavic 3 when it arrives.

DAFlys Posted at 11-19 01:14
Im going to need a big excuse to upgrade to the Mavic 3 when it arrives.

So will I - especially after dropping £1,200 on a mobile phone lol

A J Posted at 11-18 03:46
Why would I sell a nearly brand new MA2 to buy a refurb of the same drone

All sold and I now have the Mini 2 on its first charge! Looks cool

now have the Mini 2 on its first charge! Looks cool

Enjoy Mini 2!
AT and OA makes me wanna stay with MA2 for now...

virtual Posted at 11-19 11:20
now have the Mini 2 on its first charge! Looks cool

Enjoy Mini 2!  

Thanks very much - I always switch off OA (learnt to fly on a Phantom 3 Professional - didn't exist then) and I only ever used AT to test it. Being able to fly where there are people present is more important to me

A J Posted at 11-19 10:10
So will I - especially after dropping £1,200 on a mobile phone lol

The phone purchase is easy to justify,  just buy two like me,  then she's happy too.

DAFlys Posted at 11-20 01:25
The phone purchase is easy to justify,  just buy two like me,  then she's happy too.

My other half is very loyal to a different brand - she can buy her own

A J Posted at 11-20 02:45
My other half is very loyal to a different brand - she can buy her own

I tried the other side but didnt like it.

DAFlys Posted at 11-20 04:04
I tried the other side but didnt like it.

I've been with Apple since 2008 - nothing else for me

A J Posted at 11-20 04:16
I've been with Apple since 2008 - nothing else for me

I had the original iPhone and then the top version every year since.  Used to queue at the store on launch day but for the last few years I just order for launch day delivery. So far Ive been lucky to get in quick enough for a launch day delivery.

DAFlys Posted at 11-20 08:11
I had the original iPhone and then the top version every year since.  Used to queue at the store on launch day but for the last few years I just order for launch day delivery. So far Ive been lucky to get in quick enough for a launch day delivery.

I remember those days - I bought my 12 pro max on line for the first time this year and it was delivered the next day. Went for the 256GB as the 128GB was out of stock. Nice to have a couple of hundred spare gigs to fill up. I usually upgrade every other year.

Hi guys, newbie here.

I'm sending you screenshot from the Polish Aviation Authority official website, that says that it will be possible to grant old drones with new CE certificates. Also a quick translation:

dated as of 02.10.2020
We would like to kindly inform you that the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) has informed the national aviation authorities that after December 31, 2020 it will be possible to convert unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) already placed on the market into UAVs marked with classes in accordance with the Commission Delegated Regulation ( EU) 2019/945 of 12 March 2019 on unmanned aircraft systems and third country operators of unmanned aircraft systems.
EASA describes two conversion options:
1. modernization by the manufacturer by recalling products, updating hardware or software as part of the production control procedure, assigning a new serial number, affixing a class identification label, issuing a new CE declaration.
2. end user software update by owner software update under full manufacturer control, manufacturer sending new CE declaration, class identification label and new serial number plate to owner, and owner affixing class identification label and new serial number plate to UAV.
Please note that it is the manufacturer who implements measures to ensure that the UAV conversion process will ensure that the UAV complies with the provisions of Commission Delegated Regulation (EU) 2019/945.

yesitsmewojtek Posted at 11-24 13:57
Hi guys, newbie here.

I'm sending you screenshot from the Polish Aviation Authority official website, that says that it will be possible to grant old drones with new CE certificates. Also a quick translation:

Thanks for sharing

ok, looks like we'll get sorted. new CE labels and all good
btw, would never replace my ma2 with mini of any version, its just cant cope with winds as ma2 does plus no sensors which makes it dangerous in some situations
just my 5cents

crosswired Posted at 11-28 14:34
ok, looks like we'll get sorted. new CE labels and all good
btw, would never replace my ma2 with mini of any version, its just cant cope with winds as ma2 does plus no sensors which makes it dangerous in some situations
just my 5cents

Actually, having owned both the Mini 2 handles winds just as well as the MA2

crosswired Posted at 11-28 14:34
ok, looks like we'll get sorted. new CE labels and all good
btw, would never replace my ma2 with mini of any version, its just cant cope with winds as ma2 does plus no sensors which makes it dangerous in some situations
just my 5cents

The main problem is (IMPOV) that CE labeling should have been available when MA2 was comming on market... online training and EU registration still not available at this moment.
I like my MA2 as well BTW.

I really hope that DJI is going to put presure on MA2 certification as C1 allwoing to fly in A1. If not, I have to review my option

LACDC Posted at 12-15 02:58
I really hope that DJI is going to put presure on MA2 certification as C1 allwoing to fly in A1. If not, I have to review my option

I passed the EASA online training and I hope for C1 certification of MA2 as well (Please DJI, put some pressure on EASA authorities!). I will keep the C1 rules for the moment ("no flying expected over uninvolved people, if it hapens, it should be minimised"), which is the way I was (and would be) flying anyway.

The number of regulations the EU and surrounding countries have is cruel.  Here in the US you find an unrestricted airspace and follow the Part 107 exemption for hobby and you are good to go.

virtual Posted at 12-16 04:11
I passed the EASA online training and I hope for C1 certification of MA2 as well (Please DJI, put some pressure on EASA authorities!). I will keep the C1 rules for the moment ("no flying expected over uninvolved people, if it hapens, it should be minimised"), which is the way I was (and would be) flying anyway.

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Well done mate

JohnLietzke Posted at 12-16 12:00
The number of regulations the EU and surrounding countries have is cruel.  Here in the US you find an unrestricted airspace and follow the Part 107 exemption for hobby and you are good to go.

Part 107 is similar to the new A2 CofC and the restrictions are very similar.

DAFlys Posted at 2020-11-19 01:14
Accept that the UK nor the EU have announced they have back tracked on the no retrospective certification yet.  And without it being factory marked how could it be enforced or verified in the field.

I think this is word semantics.

I interpret this as the UK/EU AUTHORITIES will not simply issue retrospective certificates.

However I believe that what DJI is looking at is an "exchange" process. you send them the old MA2 and receive a re-worked MA2 in return (for a fee). This is different as you are effectively getting a "new" MA2 certified from the manufacturer, indeed it has been rumoured that you would not get "your" own MA2 back, instead you get someone elses that has also been submitted to the refurb program.

All conjecture and rumour, but would align the authorities response ("NO") with the rumoured manufacturer response ("YES")

Martin Lines Posted at 1-6 03:56
I think this is word semantics.

I interpret this as the UK/EU AUTHORITIES will not simply issue retrospective certificates.

The original EASA has a mechanism called re-manufactured which is exactly as you describe.