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Odd Limitation of Do-It-All Handle
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I find it very odd that Cinelike-D can not be used while shooting 4K60 and using the do-it-all handle. I am so confused as to why I need to sacrifice dynamic range for the wireles microphone solution. I really hope this was just an oversight that is patched later!
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I’ve got the Do-It-All Handle on all the time and I’m shooting 4K with Cinelike-D selected. Are you in Pro mode?
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Psoon Posted at 11-15 10:46
I’ve got the Do-It-All Handle on all the time and I’m shooting 4K with Cinelike-D selected. Are you in Pro mode?

Sorry I should have specified 4K60 is where it is disabled. Edited the OP.
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hmm i havent recieved mine as yet. so no cinelike-D with 4k60
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Only if using the do-it-all handle at the same time. It is a bewilderingly odd limitation.
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FFS Posted at 11-15 11:07
Sorry I should have specified 4K60 is where it is disabled. Edited the OP.

Yup, only in 4K60p. Why? Only DJI can answer that.
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That is a strange limitation. But that is not present without the do it all handle?
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No cinelike-D in 4K-60p?
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Montfrooij Posted at 11-15 23:25
That is a strange limitation. But that is not present without the do it all handle?

With the handle removed you can indeed shoot cinelike-d in ALL recording modes.
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FFS Posted at 11-16 01:45
With the handle removed you can indeed shoot cinelike-d in ALL recording modes.

Oh, that feels strange.
I don't own a P2 yet, but is there any way of attaching a tripod without the 'do it all handle'?
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Fully agree! I don't understand this at all and hope they change it in a future firmware. You can take the handle off and now suddenly it can do D-Cinelike in 4K/60? What?? 4K/60 is one of my favorite shooting modes, and it's highly annoying to take the handle off and on just for that.

Also think that D-Cinelike (along with other modes like High Quality vs. Battery Saver) should be "sticky", and revert back to their previous setting if another setting forces it to change. It's maddening to have to go back through settings to make sure nothing *else* changed when you switch modes or frame rates.
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Montfrooij Posted at 11-16 01:47
Oh, that feels strange.
I don't own a P2 yet, but is there any way of attaching a tripod without the 'do it all handle'?

If I am not mistaken even the basic model comes with a tripod mount thingy...
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jmvdigital Posted at 11-16 08:40
Fully agree! I don't understand this at all and hope they change it in a future firmware. You can take the handle off and now suddenly it can do D-Cinelike in 4K/60? What?? 4K/60 is one of my favorite shooting modes, and it's highly annoying to take the handle off and on just for that.

Also think that D-Cinelike (along with other modes like High Quality vs. Battery Saver) should be "sticky", and revert back to their previous setting if another setting forces it to change. It's maddening to have to go back through settings to make sure nothing *else* changed when you switch modes or frame rates.

OP1 cannot even have HD wifi connection to a phone if the 4K60 mode is selected; so I believe it all boils down to available processing power. I guess the "do-it-all" handle steals too much of it. Of course that does not mean they won't be able to optimize the code and get everything running as expected with a future firmware update.

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CemAygun Posted at 11-16 16:49
If I am not mistaken even the basic model comes with a tripod mount thingy...

It does, but it is not a firm connection as the do it all handle (from what I have heard, I don't own the P2 yet)
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CemAygun Posted at 11-16 16:55
OP1 cannot even have HD wifi connection to a phone if the 4K60 mode is selected; so I believe it all boils down to available processing power. I guess the "do-it-all" handle steals too much of it. Of course that does not mean they won't be able to optimize the code and get everything running as expected with a future firmware update.

It’s hard to imagine how an alternate  color profile tales more processing power.
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Hope the same.
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I really hope this can be changed. Seems stupid to call it "Do-It-All" when it limits the product. I like having the handle on just for a better grip, but I have been shooting without it most of the time because I love 4k 60 grading.
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If I remember correctly, Pocket 1 had same limitation with Wireless module.
Just tested, it is same in Pocket 1. D-Cinelike is not available with 4K 60P with wireless module is connected.

I do remember DJI answered this question in Pocket 1 forum last year that Wireless mode requires (even not connected with phone) extra processing power from its CPU just enough so D-Cinelike cannot be handled.
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Montfrooij Posted at 11-16 23:58
It does, but it is not a firm connection as the do it all handle (from what I have heard, I don't own the P2 yet)

Ah, I see! I saw the handle has latches, so I guess the smaller mount does not have them and only holds by friction?
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FFS Posted at 11-19 08:48
It’s hard to imagine how an alternate  color profile tales more processing power.

That beats me, but a quote from DJI Tony's response in another thread:

"Hi, D-Cinelike makes the image look like a cinema with a Lookup Table (LUT) that contains a mathematical formula for modifying an image..."

So applying the LUT takes a toll on the already stretched processor I guess...

Or the whole thing might just be a bug
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CemAygun Posted at 11-21 15:15
Ah, I see! I saw the handle has latches, so I guess the smaller mount does not have them and only holds by friction?

Friction + a little bumps to hold it.
It fits securely but I wonder if it would ware down over the long use.

I would appreciate if 3rd party accessary maker comes up with a tripod mount with a latch lock. I would buy couple of it.
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CemAygun Posted at 11-21 15:15
Ah, I see! I saw the handle has latches, so I guess the smaller mount does not have them and only holds by friction?

Indeed.
I have not tested it myself (since I don't own one yet) but that is what I see from it!
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Tide Posted at 11-22 00:23
Friction + a little bumps to hold it.
It fits securely but I wonder if it would ware down over the long use.

Probably will in the nearby future!
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Tide Posted at 11-22 00:23
Friction + a little bumps to hold it.
It fits securely but I wonder if it would ware down over the long use.

Referring to 3rd parties jumping in!
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I am ok with "friction" mounts with OP1, as long as the rig does not need to move, like on an actual tripod. I have couple of 3rd party mounts/stands with my favorite being the Ulanzi base (no affiliation whatsoever)  which holds the Pocket and the Wifi module together providing a solid footprint as well as a tripod mount.

But if things need to move, I believe they need to be strapped down I use the official "accessory mount" which basically locks the pocket in with a death grip and let's you connect it to anything that has a gopro style mount.
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