CAN DJI DRONES BE RETROSPECTIVELY CE CLASS MARKED?

Interesting article just out on the topic - https://www.heliguy.com/blog/202 ... e-ce-class-marking/

thanks for sharing, interesting article. Case to follow

So we still need to wait for either an official statement from DJI or the EASA.

Now that IS interesting. Cheers for the tip, Daf

MySky Posted at 11-25 03:51
So we still need to wait for either an official statement from DJI or the EASA.

Im not sure if Im is reading it, but doesn't it imply you'll have to send your drone in to be updated.

VanzPix Posted at 11-25 03:50
thanks for sharing, interesting article. Case to follow

I dont think were going to know much more until January.

DAFlys Posted at 11-25 04:24
Im not sure if Im is reading it, but doesn't it imply you'll have to send your drone in to be updated.

Thats still not clear. It might be one way. But there are only spaculations spreaded around. So we need to wait for an official statment, which process they will be finally implement.

Blériot53 Posted at 11-25 04:05
Now that IS interesting. Cheers for the tip, Daf

It will certainly be interesting to see what happens.

DAFlys Posted at 11-25 05:16
It will certainly be interesting to see what happens.

Gives us a couple of years' respite anyway

Will be good if they can - let's see what happens.

A J Posted at 11-25 07:24
Will be good if they can - let's see what happens.

Im not sure Id want to send it back to them for them to modify it and tbh they promised a service to swap M2P and zoom cameras but it never appeared.

DAFlys Posted at 11-25 07:37
Im not sure Id want to send it back to them for them to modify it and tbh they promised a service to swap M2P and zoom cameras but it never appeared.

And I have seen countless vids and threads of people sending their drones in under care refresh etc and getting a different drone back with a totally different serial number - not knowing who owned it, where it's been flown or what happened to it. It won't affect me now but hopefully they can do it remotely via firmware and a strict policy within official dealers. I wouldn't send my perfect Mavic 2 Pro anywhere.

A J Posted at 11-25 07:42
And I have seen countless vids and threads of people sending their drones in under care refresh etc and getting a different drone back with a totally different serial number - not knowing who owned it, where it's been flown or what happened to it. It won't affect me now but hopefully they can do it remotely via firmware and a strict policy within official dealers. I wouldn't send my perfect Mavic 2 Pro anywhere.

I would be very annoyed if that happened to my drone.

A J Posted at 11-25 07:42
And I have seen countless vids and threads of people sending their drones in under care refresh etc and getting a different drone back with a totally different serial number - not knowing who owned it, where it's been flown or what happened to it. It won't affect me now but hopefully they can do it remotely via firmware and a strict policy within official dealers. I wouldn't send my perfect Mavic 2 Pro anywhere.

Hopefully they will go the easy way by updating the firmware. I don't care if it will be easy or not to be checked by an official without a sticker on it in case if needed .

DAFlys Posted at 11-25 08:37
I would be very annoyed if that happened to my drone.

I think it's actual policy

MySky Posted at 11-25 08:56
Hopefully they will go the easy way by updating the firmware. I don't care if it will be easy or not to be checked by an official without a sticker on it in case if needed .

That would be the easiest and most effective way

It will be something a lot of people hope (or gamble) on I guess!

A J Posted at 11-25 10:19
I think it's actual policy

Apart not knowing the history of the replacement you've got the hassle to re-register and label it.

MySky Posted at 11-25 08:56
Hopefully they will go the easy way by updating the firmware. I don't care if it will be easy or not to be checked by an official without a sticker on it in case if needed .

Thats going to need a big change to the current rules to allow that.

DAFlys Posted at 11-26 01:34
Apart not knowing the history of the replacement you've got the hassle to re-register and label it.

Exactly - I''ll stick with the Mini 2 and see what next year brings to the table

A J Posted at 11-26 05:16
Exactly - I''ll stick with the Mini 2 and see what next year brings to the table

I think you’re making the right decision at least until the next shines drone is released.

DAFlys Posted at 11-26 05:24
I think you’re making the right decision at least until the next shines drone is released.

One thing I really like about the Mini 2 is how stealthy it is - easily the quietest drone and most difficult to see that I've owned to date. Thats important these days

DAFlys Posted at 11-26 01:34
Apart not knowing the history of the replacement you've got the hassle to re-register and label it.

There's still no online form in our country. Our National aviation agency is waiting for (EU) approved list of  questins for online training at the moment. But they say operator will be registered, this means one number for all drones.
BTW They say unified registration (with online training) has one main goal - to educate (new or uninformed) operators how to fly safely (in the whole Europe).

A J Posted at 11-26 05:31
One thing I really like about the Mini 2 is how stealthy it is - easily the quietest drone and most difficult to see that I've owned to date. Thats important these days

I was flying from the castle earlier and came across someone flying a MA2 - he was a bit confused for a moment I think when he looked up and saw my drone and not where he expected it.   I was impress in how quiet it was too though.

virtual Posted at 11-26 07:32
There's still no online form in our country. Our National aviation agency is waiting for (EU) approved list of  questins for online training at the moment. But they say operator will be registered, this means one number for all drones.
BTW They say unified registration (with online training) has one main goal - to educate (new or uninformed) operators how to fly safely (in the whole Europe).

We have two IDs here, one for the flyer and one for the drone, although I here that's going to change next year too.

DAFlys Posted at 11-26 08:17
I was flying from the castle earlier and came across someone flying a MA2 - he was a bit confused for a moment I think when he looked up and saw my drone and not where he expected it.   I was impress in how quiet it was too though.

Can you judge, which of the both is quieter ?

DAFlys Posted at 11-26 08:17
I was flying from the castle earlier and came across someone flying a MA2 - he was a bit confused for a moment I think when he looked up and saw my drone and not where he expected it.   I was impress in how quiet it was too though.

Nightmare when that happens - especially in flying fields when there are two or three of the same drone flying in close vicinity of each other.
The MA2 is a quiet drone but the Mini 2 is even quieter.  

DAFlys Posted at 11-26 08:22
We have two IDs here, one for the flyer and one for the drone, although I here that's going to change next year too.

The tread peaked my curiosity so I started doing a little a research about the Remote Identification protocol DJI is using.  Here in the United States the FAA seems to have a buy and fly philosophy with minimal government requirements, with the exception of the registration of drone greater than 250g, in contrast to most of the world which is creating more barriers, education/certification and hardware/performance limitations.  

Here is a video from DJI explaining the Remote Identification protocol

I personally feel that DJI's solution and application of the technology is good for making flight information and pilot location available in realtime to everyone.  The onus of responsible and legal flying is on the pilot and allowing public to hold us accountable makes sense.  In theory it is a great idea but in practice it may lead to negative situations.  Allowing anyone to known the location of the pilot could lead to more confrontations between pilots and people in the surrounding area.  Often people have the misconception they own airspace and it is illegal to fly drones over my property.  When people have these inaccurate beliefs,  a self righteous sense of entitlement and/or superior authority their attitude and behavior is likely emotionally based.  When the level of hostility is high it is distracting to the pilot and also place a legal flyer in vulnerable situation.

DAFlys Posted at 11-26 08:22
We have two IDs here, one for the flyer and one for the drone, although I here that's going to change next year too.

Yes, I watched interview with our aviation agency representative and there are only minor adjustments possible for the country under new EASA rules. One of them is minimum age for drone operators (16 but can be lowered individually). Each country is responsible for creating restricted zones and rules for airports traffic ect that should be available soon for digital maps.* Online registration as well as online training (for hobby sized drones free in our country BTW) should be the same for all countries.
*Drone manufactures will be using official data made by local authorities for restricted zones around the flying spot in the future.

MySky Posted at 11-26 08:33
Can you judge, which of the both is quieter ?

MA2 was quite than my M2pro that's for sure.

A J Posted at 11-26 08:57
Nightmare when that happens - especially in flying fields when there are two or three of the same drone flying in close vicinity of each other.
The MA2 is a quiet drone but the Mini 2 is even quieter.

It was quite funny as the other pilot got confused when I flew past.  He's probably got neck ache still.

DAFlys Posted at 11-26 10:50
It was quite funny as the other pilot got confused when I flew past.  He's probably got neck ache still.

Hahahaha - I can well imagine - amazingly my greatest fear when flying is the sound of another drone!

A J Posted at 11-26 11:08
Hahahaha - I can well imagine - amazingly my greatest fear when flying is the sound of another drone!

I found it to be a bit of a heart stopper when you didnt know there were other drones in the air.

DAFlys Posted at 11-27 01:18
I found it to be a bit of a heart stopper when you didnt know there were other drones in the air.

I do tend to freeze and increase altitude to 365' - most drone pilots rarely fly at such a precise altitude

A J Posted at 11-27 01:44
I do tend to freeze and increase altitude to 365' - most drone pilots rarely fly at such a precise altitude

Thats an interesting tactic for sure.

DAFlys Posted at 11-27 02:49
Thats an interesting tactic for sure.

So far, so good - yet to crash into another drone though have come close