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frankymusik
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Hello MA2 pilots!

I will part with the MA2 ...

The new regulations and laws, here in Europe, make it seem sensible not to use this drone for private purposes anymore.
To just fly over fields, far away from residential areas, far away from any uninvolved people, that's not what I would have dreamed of 8 months ago ...

I think my MM will be able to do it in the future (and now probably much, much better than the MA2), if I want to take nice videos or photos from "unusual" perspectives ...

In the future, just having to worry about violating some regulation or implementing it incorrectly is not my thing.

It was a lot of fun flying the very stable MA2, really! But what use is that if it is only possible far outside the city, and not "without restrictions" there ...
No! I'm going to put an end to it.

Maybe DJI will "someday" build a certified drone weighing less than 500 g, with many sensors that help prevent all conceivable accidents. Maybe...
Then I'll come back and I'll fly again with the old joy and film and take photos ...

Goodbye!

Frank

1-6 06:23
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DowntownRDB
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You gotta do what you feel you gotta do.  
1-6 06:28
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JJB*
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Too bad, but i agree   drones < 250 are easier to use according the rules
1-6 06:42
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virtual
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Maybe DJI will "someday" build a certified drone weighing less than 500 g, with many sensors that help prevent all conceivable accidents. Maybe...

If labeled (certified) 900g limit is the mark for C1...
1-6 11:49
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BaynhamPhoto
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The MA2 has become a proper victim in this debacle & DJI didn't do end users any favours by not getting it badged at release, they still cling to requirements not being set and suggesting retrospective might happen not will but is it more than just burning time so we just have to replace with the latest MA3 with its nice shiny CE C# tag
1-6 12:24
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BaynhamPhoto Posted at 1-6 12:24
The MA2 has become a proper victim in this debacle & DJI didn't do end users any favours by not getting it badged at release, they still cling to requirements not being set and suggesting retrospective might happen not will but is it more than just burning time so we just have to replace with the latest MA3 with its nice shiny CE C# tag

and 2 years to fly the MA2 in the A2  without CE marking. In 2 years time guess i buy a new drone, mayby the MA3 or 4 ? ;-)
1-6 12:38
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JJB* Posted at 1-6 12:38
and 2 years to fly the MA2 in the A2  without CE marking. In 2 years time guess i buy a new drone, mayby the MA3 or 4 ? ;-)

You're quite right Jjb but if it gets a C1 mark I dont need to shell out on an A2 CofC, I'd have gone MP2 knowing we would be here & happily done the A2 knowing it but there was a reason for going sub 900g.  I have no issues being responsible I did the online stuff & registered when I got my mini on release before you needed to. For now it'll be A3 in the countryside for the MA2 with the mini for more local stuff I'll be watvhing Q1/2 closely DJI need to create the Air 3 & offer sensible swap out pricing.  My MA2 has very low mileage due to covid in 2020.
1-6 13:07
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KnNLmS
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Does anyone knows if DJI can get certificate for already manufactured/sold devices like MA2?
1-6 13:28
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KnNLmS Posted at 1-6 13:28
Does anyone knows if DJI can get certificate for already manufactured/sold devices like MA2?

No the product cannot be retrospectively marked under CE rules, the same model could however, be tested, certified & badged with a class & sold new.  DJI are supposedly investigating a route that might allow certification but this will likely need you send the drone back or use an official service center based on current information so that a modification is applied to make it the equivalent of a MA2 mkii & allow certification class application.

So no is the correct answer to your question but possibly at a cost if an agreement is reached on the latter.
1-6 13:42
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KnNLmS Posted at 1-6 13:28
Does anyone knows if DJI can get certificate for already manufactured/sold devices like MA2?

Hi there, according to draft CE rules, the Mavic Air 2 meets the CE requirements. The EU’s new CE rules have not been published yet and details are not finalized, and there are no organizations that can provide the new CE certification or C0 to C3 classification. DJI will make the Mavic Air 2 certified according to the new CE rules immediately after the new CE rules come into effect. Thanks.
1-6 23:00
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DJI Natalia Posted at 1-6 23:00
Hi there, according to draft CE rules, the Mavic Air 2 meets the CE requirements. The EU’s new CE rules have not been published yet and details are not finalized, and there are no organizations that can provide the new CE certification or C0 to C3 classification. DJI will make the Mavic Air 2 certified according to the new CE rules immediately after the new CE rules come into effect. Thanks.

Thanks for your information. Reads as good news for MA2 users.
1-7 01:00
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DJI Natalia Posted at 1-6 23:00
Hi there, according to draft CE rules, the Mavic Air 2 meets the CE requirements. The EU’s new CE rules have not been published yet and details are not finalized, and there are no organizations that can provide the new CE certification or C0 to C3 classification. DJI will make the Mavic Air 2 certified according to the new CE rules immediately after the new CE rules come into effect. Thanks.

What a nice an swift reply. Thanks Natalia. This is what i expect from DJI always.
1-7 01:06
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DJI Natalia Posted at 1-6 23:00
Hi there, according to draft CE rules, the Mavic Air 2 meets the CE requirements. The EU’s new CE rules have not been published yet and details are not finalized, and there are no organizations that can provide the new CE certification or C0 to C3 classification. DJI will make the Mavic Air 2 certified according to the new CE rules immediately after the new CE rules come into effect. Thanks.

Thanks Natalia this is positive news if proven true so the official DJI response is 'still waiting for EASA CE C# specifications & certification bodies being identified'.

Not boding well for class marked drones in Q1/2 of this year then
1-7 01:33
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DJI will make the Mavic Air 2 certified according to the new CE rules immediately after the new CE rules come into effect.

This sounds very good, I hope it will be truth! As I like my Air 2 and I don't want to buy a different machine at the moment (this year).
1-7 01:44
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virtual Posted at 1-7 01:44
DJI will make the Mavic Air 2 certified according to the new CE rules immediately after the new CE rules come into effect.

This sounds very good, I hope it will be truth! As I like my Air 2 and I don't want to buy a different machine at the moment (this year).

LOL   "this year"......

I will buy the MA3 CE marked in november 2021!
i hope

cheers
JJB
1-7 01:48
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JJB* Posted at 1-7 01:48
LOL   "this year"......

I will buy the MA3 CE marked in november 2021!

Given the recent posts about getting registered around Europe you might be waiting until 2023 Jjb its all moving very slowly at least you have your MA2 in the interim.

Its interesting the variance in fees & process for the A2 its circa €110 to do it in the UK & thats on an offer.  How much did it cost you in the Netherlands?
1-7 02:11
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Mini 2 without the classification is just perfect under the new rules.  You can even overfly uninvolved people.  When it gets its classification it will not be able to do that.  As they change weight to the MTOM weight.
1-7 02:42
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JJB* Posted at 1-7 01:48
LOL   "this year"......

I will buy the MA3 CE marked in november 2021!

Yes but I don't wanna spend money only because of C1 label (can be MA3 in November so much better?) and technically this summer You have to fly in A3 (in real world I believe I can fly A1 with MA2 in our country at least  as the aviation authority is rational) but...
1-7 02:48
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DAFlys Posted at 1-7 02:42
Mini 2 without the classification is just perfect under the new rules.  You can even overfly uninvolved people.  When it gets its classification it will not be able to do that.  As they change weight to the MTOM weight.

Exactly the reason I keep the mini for now i just couldnt justify a third drone in the mini2 in the same year I'm not a YT reviewer & the divorce would be more expensive

Given the statement from DJI my money is not leaving for another until the class badges appear on aircraft but that stills seems some time off even after delay in regs coming in.
1-7 08:03
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JJB* Posted at 1-7 01:00
Thanks for your information. Reads as good news for MA2 users.

You're welcome. Should there any further updates, we'll keep you updated.
1-10 03:03
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KnNLmS Posted at 1-7 01:06
What a nice an swift reply. Thanks Natalia. This is what i expect from DJI always.

You're welcome. Should there any further updates, we'll keep you updated.
1-10 03:04
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Here in Poland before new fly rules you have to pass exams to fly commercially. Nothing really changed for us
1-10 04:43
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Here in Poland before new fly rules you have to pass exams to fly commercially. Nothing really changed for us
1-10 04:44
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Hi All,

Just checking the CE mark status for the MA2 in Europe? I heard that there were plans to get the CE marks for drones sold now. I am currently in Italy and have been putting off buying the MA2 due to the new regulations. My question - is DJI officially going to confirm that the CE mark will be made available for MA2 purchased now?  
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The sub 250 gram quads with loads of tech are the future for us who fly for recreation. Hope DJI will keep that in mind. Smaller, stronger, better. It will be fun to see what's in store.
3-2 03:35
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Tesala Posted at 3-2 00:51
Hi All,

Just checking the CE mark status for the MA2 in Europe? I heard that there were plans to get the CE marks for drones sold now. I am currently in Italy and have been putting off buying the MA2 due to the new regulations. My question - is DJI officially going to confirm that the CE mark will be made available for MA2 purchased now?

DJI only confirm things are being assessed nothing is signed off so dont expect a C1 classification anytime soon. I asked for qualified dates for both on the production line & existing aircraft no answers were given over 'we are assessing options'.

If you want an Air 2 you have to live with no C1 label for the foreseeable if ever. You can either do the A2CofC or restrict yourself to subcat A3 flying.

Very disappointed with DJI but equally with those determining certification bodies & process.
3-2 04:35
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JimDandy Posted at 3-2 03:35
The sub 250 gram quads with loads of tech are the future for us who fly for recreation. Hope DJI will keep that in mind. Smaller, stronger, better. It will be fun to see what's in store.

Yup if they can get follow & 4k 60 raw in there thats pretty much market captured for average Joe.
3-2 04:37
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DJI Natalia Posted at 1-6 23:00
Hi there, according to draft CE rules, the Mavic Air 2 meets the CE requirements. The EU’s new CE rules have not been published yet and details are not finalized, and there are no organizations that can provide the new CE certification or C0 to C3 classification. DJI will make the Mavic Air 2 certified according to the new CE rules immediately after the new CE rules come into effect. Thanks.

Here are the regulations also about certification in the European Union :

DELEGATED REGULATION (EU) 2019/945

DELEGATED REGULATION (EU) 2019/947

Why are these provisions not enough?
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JimDandy Posted at 3-2 03:35
The sub 250 gram quads with loads of tech are the future for us who fly for recreation. Hope DJI will keep that in mind. Smaller, stronger, better. It will be fun to see what's in store.

Until the next laws that will also ban drones of less than 250 grams....
3-2 11:47
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