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How to prevent auto landing (mini 2)
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pdonker
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I fly my Mini 2 in the mountains. So sometimes I take off and fly *down*, not up (i.e. if you take off from the top of the mountain). When I pull down to descend and the mini is below something like 20 m from where I started (on screen you see the height relative to start), the mini assumes it is about to land and shoots into auto land mode. Subsequently it points up the camera and beeps that it will land and start its own descend. It is really unhelpful as it destroys the film I was making.
Note I am *NOT* talking about auto landing due to low battery. There is no issue with the battery here. It is purely because it thinks it is close to the ground (while it is not).

Any clues on how to deactivate this and what the consequences are?

Thanks!
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Reference this thread https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... D757%26typeid%3D757
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Hi,

Interesting, but not sure about the cause.

It happens to all DJI`s when the bottom sensor measures height ** AND at the same time for short moment stick down is applied. This will command the drone to perform an autolanding.
** at 0.5 meters height autolanding can be initiate by down stick for short moment.

Bottom sensor can measure incorrect 'height' due to fog, water on the lens, reflections.

IIf you like upload your flightlog using this > https://www.phantomhelp.com/LogViewer/Upload/

In the log the bottom sensor height values are there, so it can be checked

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pdonker
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OK, so the other thread pointed to "distance from takeoff" as a factor. I'll need to do some experimenting. I had the feeling I was well over 100m away from start when it wanted to land when pushing down on the stick. But I'll report back my findings.
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pdonker Posted at 1-11 06:11
OK, so the other thread pointed to "distance from takeoff" as a factor. I'll need to do some experimenting. I had the feeling I was well over 100m away from start when it wanted to land when pushing down on the stick. But I'll report back my findings.

i do a lot of testing myself....AFAIK distance and height below HP has nothing to do with an autolanding.

Your flightlog will explain what happend. (if you like upload or put a cloud link to your flightlog on here)

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pdonker
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I'm a complete noob, so first I'll need to figure out how to do that.
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pdonker Posted at 1-11 06:39
I'm a complete noob, so first I'll need to figure out how to do that.

Instructions to post your log are here - http://phantomhelp.com/logviewer/
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https://app.airdata.com/flight/e6387ea60a3a2cd4d3ad109f053057dc/GENERALNotifications

At 15:15 the drone decides that it's time to land. It does it again at 16:17.
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DAFlys Posted at 1-11 07:23
Instructions to post your log are here - http://phantomhelp.com/logviewer/

Unfortunately this doesn't support the Mini 2 format. At least my files show up blank in that app.
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pdonker Posted at 1-11 08:59
Unfortunately this doesn't support the Mini 2 format. At least my files show up blank in that app.

Website owner working on it!
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Both times it went into auto landing mode, the bottom sensors sensed that the ground was in very close proximity.  So with you holding the left stick down and it being in close proximity to the ground, it went into auto landing.  

Are you saying that the drone was still high above the ground and not in close proximity?
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I'd estimate about tree height from the footage. I'd be impressed that it had an accurate ground distance reading from that high, but I am overall quite impressed with this drone, so ... But I'd argue that I should still have the ability to fly lower without control being taken away. Oddly enough it has no issue with me flying it into a tree (happened once already, ahum) but flying into the ground is well protected.
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pdonker Posted at 1-11 08:58
https://app.airdata.com/flight/e6387ea60a3a2cd4d3ad109f053057dc/GENERALNotifications

At 15:15 the drone decides that it's time to land. It does it again at 16:17.

Hi,

In both situations the VPS height sensor measured approx 0.5 meter AND throttle down for short moment.  This will force a DJI drone info an autolanding.

Few pilots lost their craft like this ; flying low over water at wanted to go even lower....first stick down no down action, but yes...than an autolanding....splash!

Can happen also in fog!  when the sensor measured faulty 0.5 meters   it will enter landing with stick down...real slow ofcourse.

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OK, yeah, then it makes sense. It must have detected the top of a tree or something. I guess that is a good thing. I'll run some more tests to get the hang of this ...

Thanks everyone
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I was the other poster about the Auto Landing proximity of 5-50m from the HomePoint when descending to the landing height.  After reviewing the CSV log manually I discovered Auto Landing initiated at a height of 17ft above and 150ft way from the HomePoint.  I had assumed I was far closer to the HomePoint height and much closer when I initially posted but the numbers are a ways out 46m.  As there was no visual reference because I was looking out over the ocean the numbers seem accurate and that I just misjudge it spatially.  

But it seems I am not the only one to have had this experience and can also attribute the change to the new firmware.

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pdonker Posted at 1-11 08:58
https://app.airdata.com/flight/e6387ea60a3a2cd4d3ad109f053057dc/GENERALNotifications

At 15:15 the drone decides that it's time to land. It does it again at 16:17.

After viewing your logs I feel like we had a similar experience.  I did not try to replicate the problem or fly closer to the HomePoint below the HomePoint Height because I was over the ocean.

Here are my logs https://app.airdata.com/share/wALGmg
[url=]00m 52s[/url]17.4 ft154 ftModeMode changed to Confirm Landing

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JohnLietzke Posted at 1-11 16:23
After viewing your logs I feel like we had a similar experience.  I did not try to replicate the problem or fly closer to the HomePoint below the HomePoint Height because I was over the ocean.

Here are my logs https://app.airdata.com/share/wALGmg

John, your log also shows your VPS system registering that it thought it was in close proximity to the surface while holding the left stick down for a period of time.

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Thanks KlooGee, That is strange I was at least 75ft above the ocean.  Possibly a refraction of light off the water?  I complete misattributed the RTH to the new firmware.  

By the way what are you using to analyze the logs?  It looks like Phantom Help.  If so how did you get the logs to read.  I have been getting blank data for the .txt and csv.
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JohnLietzke Posted at 1-11 19:03
Thanks KlooGee, That is strange I was at least 75ft above the ocean.  Possibly a refraction of light off the water?  I complete misattributed the RTH to the new firmware.  

By the way what are you using to analyze the logs?

The barometric height nor the VPS show you anywhere near 75ft high at the time.  
That is a screenshot from AirData.
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Sorry, I was not clear.  My bad.  I flew off the cliff by the ocean that is at least 50ft above the ocean.  So my distance from the ocean was at least 65ft.  Do you have the paid version of AirData.com.  
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John, something went wrong at 46.9 seconds. There was no reason for the VPS sensor to suddenly change from 35ft to 1.3 ft except mist on the sensor or a similar anomaly. It stays at the nearly same low value until you are over land for a while. Either that or you had a seagull flying directly underneath ;-)
I have a paid version if that can help.
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Thanks GaryDoug,

I appreciate the offer but I think it was an anomaly that only occurred for a short period of time.  I hypothesize that it maybe glare or light reflection from the ocean.  That does seem strange to me be based on the fact that I was at least 60+ft above the ocean and it did not occur at any other point during the three flights I flew in that area back to back.  

I missed Downward Vision Sensor looking through the CSV table as I never made the connection that VPS was Sonar Height in the CSC table until KlooGee used the phrase.

As you can see in the AirData.com logs Media photos I was overly cautious about descending below the HomePoint within 50m and did not drop down to get better video of the seals.
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Hello there pdonker. I am sorry to read and to know that you are having this issue on your DJI Mini 2. Can you please fly your DJI Mini 2 to a different location with less interference to see if the issue will still persist? The said DJI drone might have picked up magnetic interference on the ground, and you took off from close to structures with rebar concrete metal objects on it. In addition, please make sure that the antennas are pointed toward the aircraft for optimal transmission. Thank you.
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Thanks Stephen, I will keep that in mind.
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DJI Stephen Posted at 1-13 20:29
Hello there pdonker. I am sorry to read and to know that you are having this issue on your DJI Mini 2. Can you please fly your DJI Mini 2 to a different location with less interference to see if the issue will still persist? The said DJI drone might have picked up magnetic interference on the ground, and you took off from close to structures with rebar concrete metal objects on it. In addition, please make sure that the antennas are pointed toward the aircraft for optimal transmission. Thank you.

Hi Stephen,

Please read this post #20 in https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=233198

It is a major flaw in your software! (and very simple to 'repair')

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