Thanks OP for the email/serial!
Too bad Mini2 only save lower resolution individual jpges while shooting a pano.
I don't know why DJI think it was a good idea. RAW-s are in full res.
Maybe because built in auto stitching? But what if i want to stitch the jpgs in post?
Come on DJI, LITCHI can save full res jpegs too in pano mode

What if resulted image have some stitching errors, like this?


If it was windy, Mini2 moves a little while shooting images.
I can correct this sample in PS easily, but sometimes its hard (buildings, roads, etc)

Any tutorial for correct this? App has some viewpoint correction like ptgui?

thanks!

relaxosmo Posted at 3-25 23:15
Thanks OP for the email/serial!
Too bad Mini2 only save lower resolution individual jpges while shooting a pano.
I don't know why DJI think it was a good idea. RAW-s are in full res.

You CAN save raw images for Pano in the Mini 2 and AutoPano supports importing raw images as well.

To turn on JPG+Raw you need to get the aircraft in flight, select panorama then tap on the images further in the bottom right of the Fly app and choose JPG+Raw. The setting will stay set, you don't need to select it again every time you fly.

Re fixing stitching. AutoPano has a lot of flexibility for adjusting how the image is stitched. You can edit the stitching by moving images, control points etc, change the direction the camera was pointing when an image was taken (yaw, pitch etc), focal length of the lens... I haven't played with this much myself as my pianos so far have stitched OK, but it looks pretty comprehensive.

No Original Thought Posted at 3-11 08:09
I was thinking I might do a YouTube video of it.... you know, long winded, bragging.... etc etc

The concise version was perfectly adequate and sufficiently informative to set me on the right path.
But if you want to publish the full-fat version on YT  I  won't be the one to discourage you.

No Original Thought Posted at 3-25 10:42
If you switch AutoPano to 'Images mode' (I think that's what its called - there's an icon for it on the top toolbar in the pano edit screen) it actually shows you teh warping of each image as its used in teh final pano... but even just looking at that was hurting my head as to just how warped the images get.

Bettter result today.
Used Windows Paint to crudely fill in the overhead gap.
Up with the lark this morning to Fernilee reservoir

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=262021

Blériot53 Posted at 3-26 02:45
Bettter result today.
Used Windows Paint to crudely fill in the overhead gap.
Up with the lark this morning to Fernilee reservoir

That to section fill in is pretty much spot on - good job!

Strange that you still seem to have that black edge on the join, though... It's almost as though the photos aren't quite wide enough by a few pixels.

No Original Thought Posted at 3-26 03:49
That to section fill in is pretty much spot on - good job!

Strange that you still seem to have that black edge on the join, though... It's almost as though the photos aren't quite wide enough by a few pixels.

The top was fairly easily, if crudely, filled in by copy and paste in Windows PAINT.
I'm sure it can be done better with a little time and patience.
The vertical join, or spike, still has me puzzled. As you remark, it's as though there's a few pixels missing from one or both edges.
360 is a new angle to the hobby that I'm enjoying, however (pardon the pun)

No Original Thought Posted at 3-26 02:34
You CAN save raw images for Pano in the Mini 2 and AutoPano supports importing raw images as well.

To turn on JPG+Raw you need to get the aircraft in flight, select panorama then tap on the images further in the bottom right of the Fly app and choose JPG+Raw. The setting will stay set, you don't need to select it again every time you fly.

I know i can save jpg+raw in pano mode..
But i don't like working with raw, never get good result as sharp and clean as full res jpegs.
Thats why i like Litchi..

relaxosmo Posted at 3-26 12:00
I know i can save jpg+raw in pano mode..
But i don't like working with raw, never get good result as sharp and clean as full res jpegs.
Thats why i like Litchi..

That doesn't really make any sense.

JPEG is a list format so a JPEG image will always contain less information than the raw file.

The raw file contains all of the data captured by the sensor, so will always have more information available to create the image than a JPEG of the same resolution.

On top of that, when a camera creates a JPEG or makes assumptions about the saturation she sounds of the final image that you want. It creates that version of the image and throws away any data it doesn't need to create that image.

The raw file contains all of the information do you have total control over how the final image looks.

Given a full res JPEG and a raw file of the same resolution you will always be able to create a better quality final image from the raw file (so long as you know how to process it - obviously allowing the camera to make a final image based on manufacturer presets will result in an image that the manufacturer thinks it's s good compromise without your input)

No Original Thought Posted at 3-26 14:03
That doesn't really make any sense.

JPEG is a list format so a JPEG image will always contain less information than the raw file.

Thanks, again, i know all of these informations.
Only i cannot create the same nice, sharp, noise-less picture from DNG what the JPG has!
Can you write your workflow? I even see strange moire effect on a building's roof pattern, which is invisible on jpg!

DNG:


JPG:

relaxosmo Posted at 3-30 07:48
Thanks, again, i know all of these informations.
Only i cannot create the same nice, sharp, noise-less picture from DNG what the JPG has!
Can you write your workflow? I even see strange moire effect on a building's roof pattern, which is invisible on jpg!

I'm no expert on raw processing - far from it, I'm just starting out with that myself - but your JPG image also has the moire effect in the lower roof. The reason it is much more onvious in the DNG image is that the JPG is so soft the moire effect is hidden.

Moire effect is a result of limitations of the sensor, not the file format, so this is precisely what you would expect.

(And for anyone reading who doesn't know - the image above labelled as DNG is in fact also a JPEG, but presumably a JPEG created from the DNG manually rather than the JPEG created by the Mini2 automatically when shooting).


I've briefly played with a couple of applocations for processing raw images and SO much is possible that I ended up with either poor results or just using a preset which completely defeated the point of using raw.

That said, I always take raw as well as JPEG where possible because I do intend to learn how to process raw properly to get the best image possible looking as close to how I want it as possible - rather than it looking like somebody else (camera manufacturer or software developer) thinks it should look.

relaxosmo Posted at 3-30 07:48
Thanks, again, i know all of these informations.
Only i cannot create the same nice, sharp, noise-less picture from DNG what the JPG has!
Can you write your workflow? I even see strange moire effect on a building's roof pattern, which is invisible on jpg!

Just looking again, in terms of noise - I'd say the JPEG clearly has more noise than the 'DNG' image.

Take a look in the blacks, there is definetly more noise there.

And if you look around the edges in the flat cream panels of the top building you can see the 'ghosting' of those edges.

What software did you use to create the top JPEG from the DNG? It clearly did a better job than the aircraf on-board JPEG compresion. The result may not be as 'pleasing' or 'pretty' without the correct colour and exposure tweaking, but it's certainly sharper.

THANKS! Definitely checking PTgui out and some of the other things mentioned in this thread.

Mobilehomer Posted at 3-10 14:46
Thanks, that did it. Now to take some panoramas and try it.

I've got it working nicely with shots from my Mini One (using Litchi) and the results are satisfying. I round off the black hole in the top and leave it there, they upload to Skypixel.  QED  

Thanks for all of the information.

DAFlys Posted at 3-11 00:59
This is brilliant you should post this in the tutorials section.

Agreed!

Thanks so much for taking the time to put together such an informative post - THIS is the pinnacle of what forum contributions ought to be!

TomKatt Posted at 4-12 05:19
Agreed!

Thanks so much for taking the time to put together such an informative post - THIS is the pinnacle of what forum contributions ought to be!

Thanks TomKatt.

I come here to learn and be entertained, but giving back when you can is all a part of being a member of this kind of community as far as I am concerned.

Very happy you found it useful, or in the very least found it interesting.

Macked Posted at 4-12 04:04
Thanks for all of the information.

Your welcome, Macked.

TomKatt Posted at 4-12 05:19
Agreed!

Thanks so much for taking the time to put together such an informative post - THIS is the pinnacle of what forum contributions ought to be!

No Original Thought deserves all the credit.

Hi No Original Thought, I shoot pano's for a long time and using autopano giga (LOL , i see you are using my generate email and serial nr...)
I use Litchi to shoot the images and no sphere method. In litchi you can set the amount of images/rows and important the max  width your pano must be. So more pictures in smaller pano makes a giga pixel pano.
Same procedure in autopano you discribed.
Keep up the good work.
Cheers
Jos

https://www.panoramic-photo-guid ... es.html#preferences

dji_MODDER Posted at 4-12 23:21
Hi No Original Thought, I shoot pano's for a long time and using autopano giga (LOL , i see you are using my generate email and serial nr...)
I use Litchi to shoot the images and no sphere method. In litchi you can set the amount of images/rows and important the max  width your pano must be. So more pictures in smaller pano makes a giga pixel pano.
Same procedure in autopano you discribed.

Hi Jos,

My apologies.. I thought that the email and serial I included in the instructions was one that Kolor had issued themselves when they discontinued the development of AutoPano Giga... is that not the case? Are you happy for that registration information to be shared?

I don't use Litchi myself, but it's interesting to now that it has a manual panorama mode.

DAFlys Posted at 3-11 00:59
This is brilliant you should post this in the tutorials section.

Why don't you make a YouTube video about it, with all the bells and whistles?

Johnny_J Posted at 4-13 02:47
Why don't you make a YouTube video about it, with all the bells and whistles?

I honestly regard this as a good idea.

Landey Posted at 4-13 03:00
I honestly regard this as a good idea.

Of course you do!

Johnny_J Posted at 4-13 02:47
Why don't you make a YouTube video about it, with all the bells and whistles?

See Post 16...

Johnny_J Posted at 4-13 03:35
Of course you do!

Of course I do.
Because it's a procedure for achieving photographic results many pilots wish for, not possible to achieve by using standard means. Thus it would be totally worth a tutorial video.

No Original Thought Posted at 4-13 03:55
See Post 16...

.. can't wait ...

Landey Posted at 4-13 03:57
Of course I do.
Because it's a procedure for achieving photographic results many pilots wish for, not possible to achieve by using standard means. Thus it would be totally worth a tutorial video.

"tutorial video"? So STUPID! A video containing bragging and requests for subscriptions is NOT a "tutorial video". Period!

DAFlys Posted at 3-12 01:18
,    That gave me a big smile.

Of course it did, DAFlys. It'd be exactly like all the crap you post here!

Johnny_J Posted at 4-13 02:47
Why don't you make a YouTube video about it, with all the bells and whistles?

Good idea Johhny

Johnny_J Posted at 4-13 04:03
Of course it did, DAFlys. It'd be exactly like all the crap you post here!

I really dont understand why you are always so negative,     you need to unwind more and get some more air time.

DAFlys Posted at 4-13 05:35
I really dont understand why you are always so negative,     you need to unwind more and get some more air time.

I'm quite aware that you cannot comprehend the negative effects of your crap postings, asking for subscription and taking space while "informing" people about something that can be much better expressed as text!

You need to get some more air time in free air!

Johnny_J Posted at 4-13 07:05
I'm quite aware that you cannot comprehend the negative effects of your crap postings, asking for subscription and taking space while "informing" people about something that can be much better expressed as text!

You need to get some more air time in free air!

You do realise that the news videos that DAFlys posts links to are not his own, don't you?

So DAFlys is not bragging or asking fro subscriptions, he is sharing things that he found and found interesting - interesting enough that he believes that others will find ithem ntersting as well (and that prompt discussion).

I've watched DAFlys' own videos as well, or, more often, viewed his photos and I enjoy them a lot - and there is no bragging or request for subscriptions in those. (And the fact that he had one of his photos featured on the front page of the app recently shows that I'm not the only one appreciating his photos!)

I agree that videos where the creator asks for subscriptions repeatedly can get a bit tedious, but a one off request doesn't bother me at all. But berating DAFlys for bragging and asking for subscriptions is a bit off target.

No Original Thought Posted at 4-13 01:20
Hi Jos,

My apologies.. I thought that the email and serial I included in the instructions was one that Kolor had issued themselves when they discontinued the development of AutoPano Giga... is that not the case? Are you happy for that registration information to be shared?

Never mind, I made it with a keygenerator, also litchi can be found here
https://ufile.io/c8iud4ee
Its all on the internet
cheers jos

Johnny_J Posted at 4-13 07:05
I'm quite aware that you cannot comprehend the negative effects of your crap postings, asking for subscription and taking space while "informing" people about something that can be much better expressed as text!

You need to get some more air time in free air!

I dont ask for any subscriptions Johnny.    These are just videos I think some people might enjoy,  or can skip them if they dont take a fancy to them.   My own channel is not monetised.

Microsoft's Image Composite Editor is my favorite. Although not supported anymore it does an excellent job with a nice ui and 10 autosettings (with standard and surprising effects). You can ie get it here https://download.cnet.com/Image- ... 192_4-75207152.html

Microsoft's Image Composite Editor is my favorite. It is freeware and doesn't need registration. Although not supported anymore it does an excellent job with a nice ui and 10 autosettings. It never failed since 2015 (and I take a lot of pano-sets). You can ie get it here https://download.cnet.com/Image- ... 192_4-75207152.html

Hi
I have had a go at this and still only getting final jpeg file with size of 9MB which is the same as the MM2 usable stitched file. Each individual photo ranges from 1.5 MB to 1.8MB which sums up to approx 43MB. Even with say 20% waste for overlaps this is much lower than I was expecting. Am i doing something wrong?
Thanks
M

Mattlehat Posted at 4-19 07:13
Hi
I have had a go at this and still only getting final jpeg file with size of 9MB which is the same as the MM2 usable stitched file. Each individual photo ranges from 1.5 MB to 1.8MB which sums up to approx 43MB. Even with say 20% waste for overlaps this is much lower than I was expecting. Am i doing something wrong?
Thanks

What resolution is the generated image?

Wilfried5719 Posted at 4-14 15:20
Microsoft's Image Composite Editor  is my favorite. Although not supported anymore it does an excellent job with a nice ui and 10 autosettings (with standard and surprising effects). You can ie get it here https://download.cnet.com/Image- ... 192_4-75207152.html

Thanks Wilfied, I'll take a look at that aswell.

Does it also do spherical panos?

No Original Thought Posted at 4-19 10:38
What resolution is the generated image?

Hi. It's fixed now. Played around with the settings and changed default projection to 'sphere' from 'automatic' and that did the trick.
Thanks for following up!