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Dragonfyr
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So my mini 3 Pro is due for delivery tomorrow. I am beyond excited. But I'm seeing more and more people having signal issues, lots of them.

Not sure if I should cancel the order, accept > don't open and return it, open it and try it out myself.. Really confused about what I should do.

This video is from a guy who had issues starting at 500m... https://youtu.be/_6kliYfD5C8

Open to any suggestions about this or does anyone else have the same issues?
5-18 04:36
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Dragonfyr
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Here's another example of the signal problem. https://youtu.be/i0w05TcOQvk

I mean, look at the comments on that video, literally everyone is having signal issues right away!

DJI, you really need to make an update or comment about this. It's a serious problem. Possibly a design flaw. Maybe even time for a product recall. Idk
5-18 04:51
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Of all the aircraft in my fleet, the mini's are hardly the option I'd resort to for longer distance objects. I'm eagerly awaiting my order and will enjoy it to its' fullest. This will be a fantastic new tool for me.
5-18 05:01
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KLRSKIR Posted at 5-18 05:01
Of all the aircraft in my fleet, the mini's are hardly the option I'd resort to for longer distance objects. I'm eagerly awaiting my order and will enjoy it to its' fullest. This will be a fantastic new tool for me.

I'm just going off their product specifications. I have no intention of flying it 18km, but if it can't even maintain a strong signal after 500 meters, that's an issue.
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5-18 05:10
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Hmmm, my experiences after the first flight.  I am in the UK, so we get CE rules on the power output.

I would have to say, whether in Dual or locked to 2.4GHz, I'm getting marginally better than my DJI Mavic Mini 1 on range.  Signal starting to get iffy at about 350m, and disconnecting by about 500m, at a height of 53m, with perfect line of sight.  Test was right on the edge of town, so over fields, but not rural.

By comparison, my Mini 2 will do about 800+ metres at that sort of height, from the same location.

This is using the DJI RC, I probably need to experiment with the older RC-N1...   ...though I bought the DJI RC version for a reason
5-18 05:26
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I’m in the U.K. and have been flying the mini3 back to back with the mini2 and overall I’m getting the same or better connection.  No where near 8km as advertised
5-18 05:29
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Dragonfyr Posted at 5-18 05:10
I'm just going off their product specifications. I have no intention of flying it 18km, but if it can't even maintain a strong signal after 500 meters, that's an issue.

That flight distance isn’t range.  It could be clocked up flying a 200m circle.  It’s like saying a full tank of petrol in this car can go 200 miles.  Now that could be around town or 200 miles away.  
5-18 05:32
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DAFlys Posted at 5-18 05:29
I’m in the U.K. and have been flying the mini3 back to back with the mini2 and overall I’m getting the same or better connection.  No where near 8km as advertised

Hmmm, have to check what I'm doing different, as at 100m height, I'm getting half the range I'm getting with the Mini 2, flying from my spare bedroom window over the fields out the back.
5-18 05:52
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5-18 06:07
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Dragonfyr Posted at 5-18 05:10
I'm just going off their product specifications. I have no intention of flying it 18km, but if it can't even maintain a strong signal after 500 meters, that's an issue.

Refering to to your screen shot it says 18km for normal battery and 25km for the plus battery.
This does not mean with the plus battery it can fly 25km away from you,
Even 18km would exceed the O3 specs.
It is just the total way distance around you in the O3 specs range in total lab theory in a perfect world under perfect conditions.
5-18 06:17
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TheBoy Posted at 5-18 05:52
Hmmm, have to check what I'm doing different, as at 100m height, I'm getting half the range I'm getting with the Mini 2, flying from my spare bedroom window over the fields out the back.

Are you holding the remote flat like it was
Placed on a table.  Pointed at the drone and your not covering that leading edge between the camera buttons.  
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MySky Posted at 5-18 06:17
Refering to to your screen shot it says 18km for normal battery and 25km for the plus battery.
This does not mean with the plus battery it can fly 25km away from you,
Even 18km would exceed the O3 specs.

oh really?  dji stated under which conditions you get max range, it didn't say anything about around and around in a 50 meter circular path around you.  are you saying dji has resorted to a different definition of the max range for this particular drone as opposed to it's previous drones (because this hasn't always been the definition)?  you really think dji would resort to that sort of marketing trickery?
5-18 06:27
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If the issue is affecting everyone, then I guess a new firmware could solve it.
Sad to see that.
This should be one of the first things to check before releasing such a product.
5-18 06:31
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The Saint Posted at 5-18 06:27
oh really?  dji stated under which conditions you get max range, it didn't say anything about around and around in a 50 meter circular path around you.  are you saying dji has resorted to a different definition of the max range for this particular drone as opposed to it's previous drones (because this hasn't always been the definition)?  you really think dji would resort to that sort of marketing trickery?

Seriously ?
Max. flight distance is 18km  or 25km related to which battery you use.

Max. transmission distance ( circular range around the RC) 8km CE and 12km FCC. (O3 transmission)

Within this circle around  you (RC) you are allowed to fly as you like until you reached the max. flight distance.

You see, nothing resorted. It is just a matter of wording and it's definition.
5-18 07:10
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DAFlys Posted at 5-18 05:32
That flight distance isn’t range.  It could be clocked up flying a 200m circle.  It’s like saying a full tank of petrol in this car can go 200 miles.  Now that could be around town or 200 miles away.

What? That makes no sense.

DJI list/sell the mini 3 Pro with a range of 18,000 meters. But loads of people can't get past 500 meters without a signal issue.
5-18 07:11
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TheBoy Posted at 5-18 05:52
Hmmm, have to check what I'm doing different, as at 100m height, I'm getting half the range I'm getting with the Mini 2, flying from my spare bedroom window over the fields out the back.

You'll have to state what distance that is pal. No one knows the size of said fields.
5-18 07:13
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Dragonfyr Posted at 5-18 07:11
What? That makes no sense.

DJI list/sell the mini 3 Pro with a range of 18,000 meters. But loads of people can't get past 500 meters without a signal issue.

Except that they dont. the range is 8km in CE mode,  that number is total metres you can get out of a battery.  
In the spec they actually list based on interference levels now too.


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MySky Posted at 5-18 06:17
Refering to to your screen shot it says 18km for normal battery and 25km for the plus battery.
This does not mean with the plus battery it can fly 25km away from you,
Even 18km would exceed the O3 specs.

Watch the video I posted first.

The guy had perfect conditions, on an abandoned runway, and had signal issues at 500 meters.

If DJI state the mini 3 Pro has a range on 18,000 meters, that usually means it has a range of 18,000 meters.
5-18 07:15
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The Saint Posted at 5-18 06:27
oh really?  dji stated under which conditions you get max range, it didn't say anything about around and around in a 50 meter circular path around you.  are you saying dji has resorted to a different definition of the max range for this particular drone as opposed to it's previous drones (because this hasn't always been the definition)?  you really think dji would resort to that sort of marketing trickery?

Exactly.

Apparently I have to type more than 'Exactly' to post this comment.
5-18 07:16
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Dragonfyr Posted at 5-18 07:15
Watch the video I posted first.

The guy had perfect conditions, on an abandoned runway, and had signal issues at 500 meters.

They dont quote 18km as the range.  

5-18 07:16
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DAFlys Posted at 5-18 07:16
They dont quote 18km as the range.  

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This is from the dji mini 3 Pro website. Pretty sure that when they say 'range', they don't mean if I fly 50 meters away, them 50 meters back, thats 100 meters range.
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Dragonfyr Posted at 5-18 07:19
This is from the dji mini 3 Pro website. Pretty sure that when they say 'range', they don't mean if I fly 50 meters away, them 50 meters back, thats 100 meters range.

Thats not total distance away from the remote,  thats total distance than can be flown on the battery.   
5-18 07:20
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Dragonfyr Posted at 5-18 05:10
I'm just going off their product specifications. I have no intention of flying it 18km, but if it can't even maintain a strong signal after 500 meters, that's an issue.

Thats Max flight distance nothing to do with signal distance.
5-18 07:21
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Yep, you guys are right, it doesn't say range. Apologies.

So what range is it meant to go? (away from the controller).
5-18 07:23
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Dragonfyr Posted at 5-18 07:23
Yep, you guys are right, it doesn't say range. Apologies.

So what range is it meant to go? (away from the controller).

The spec is 8km -   `this is from note 6 on the specification.  

CE: UK, Russia, France, Germany, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, Macau, New Zealand, UAE, and other regions. Max transmission range: 8 km
5-18 07:26
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Dragonfyr Posted at 5-18 07:15
Watch the video I posted first.

The guy had perfect conditions, on an abandoned runway, and had signal issues at 500 meters.

If you turn around or stop pointing the RC at the craft you can have issues, and I think he ended up with craft showing some signal up to 2300m , not as advertised but not 500m. I think it will be interesting to see if RC-N1 can hold a better signal both radio and downlink. We should also remember antennas have also moved in the drone so this could also have an effect on signal.
5-18 07:30
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Dragonfyr Posted at 5-18 07:15
Watch the video I posted first.

The guy had perfect conditions, on an abandoned runway, and had signal issues at 500 meters.

I have already seen it yesterday.
But he also stated that he is using a beta version and finaly reached approx. 2500m or 2,5km.
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My "friend" managed over 3km in CE on the Mini 2 and 5500m in FCC, this Mini 3 has nothing on the Mini 2 range wise, BTW, the mini 2 outperformed his P4P range wise...

There has to be a FW issue, either that or we are being restricted in the UK and poss other countries too, perhaps this is part of the new regs, maybe sommat we do not know about? just spitballing here, thats all...
5-18 07:37
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Dragonfyr Posted at 5-18 07:23
Yep, you guys are right, it doesn't say range. Apologies.

So what range is it meant to go? (away from the controller).

Again in case you missed it:

Max. flight distance is 18km  or 25km related to which battery you use.
Max. transmission distance ( circular range around the RC) 8km CE and 12km FCC. (O3 transmission)

Within this circle around  you (RC) you are allowed to fly as you like until you reached the max. flight distance.

For more details refer to the appendix in the manual.
5-18 07:41
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DAFlys Posted at 5-18 07:26
The spec is 8km -   `this is from note 6 on the specification.  

CE: UK, Russia, France, Germany, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, Macau, New Zealand, UAE, and other regions. Max transmission range: 8 km

Thanks for that.

So has anyone got it anywhere close to 8km? Or can link a video about it? Forum post? Anything... please... lol
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hallmark007 Posted at 5-18 07:30
If you turn around or stop pointing the RC at the craft you can have issues, and I think he ended up with craft showing some signal up to 2300m , not as advertised but not 500m. I think it will be interesting to see if RC-N1 can hold a better signal both radio and downlink. We should also remember antennas have also moved in the drone so this could also have an effect on signal.

Yea, that was one of the first things I checked, where the antennas are located. And where 2300m is good, he still have issues from 500m+. And yea, no where near the advertised 8000m.
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MySky Posted at 5-18 07:41
Again in case you missed it:

Max. flight distance is 18km  or 25km related to which battery you use.

So, 8km.. ?

Which it gets no where near that.
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First i thought this is related to the antenna design in the new RC, but the more i think about and compare it to the 01.04. FW issue of the Mini 2 i am more an more convinced, that is not a bug but a restriction in the FW made by DJI for whatever reason.
5-18 07:53
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MySky Posted at 5-18 07:53
First i thought this is related to the antenna design in the new RC, but the more i think about and compare it to the 01.04. FW issue of the Mini 2 i am more an more convinced, that is not a bug but a restriction in the FW made by DJI for whatever reason.

More likely they moved the antennas on the Mini3 into the landing feet rather than the arms,     the new remote for me works better than the N1 remote when I tested it today.  
5-18 07:56
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MySky Posted at 5-18 07:53
First i thought this is related to the antenna design in the new RC, but the more i think about and compare it to the 01.04. FW issue of the Mini 2 i am more an more convinced, that is not a bug but a restriction in the FW made by DJI for whatever reason.

I'm praying that it's a firmware issue. SO much!

5-18 08:00
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DAFlys Posted at 5-18 07:56
More likely they moved the antennas on the Mini3 into the landing feet rather than the arms,     the new remote for me works better than the N1 remote when I tested it today.

Ok so that sounds positive but probably needs some tweaking with FW.
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yeah, that's not going to fly.

wow, you guys are unreal.  even stevie wonder can see there's a problem here.  

this is more than just the numbers printed on the side of the box or in the user guide.....who here is saying the drone is performing just fine as expected?
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The Saint Posted at 5-18 08:00
yeah, that's not going to fly.

wow, you guys are unreal.  even stevie wonder can see there's a problem here.  

No one ….
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Dragonfyr Posted at 5-18 07:52
So, 8km.. ?

Which it gets no where near that.

Don't insist on that 8km.
This is in the ideal and  perfect world with the right temperature, humidity, airpressure and no blocking by obsticals nor any other radio interference.

Just having the RC connected to the mobile phones hotspot might be the cause for such issues.
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