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Mavic 3 Extremly Jerky Braking/Stopping Behaviour
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Hi DJI,

as you can find in several other revies of M3-Pilots, a general problem seems to be the abrupt "Braking-Behaviour" of the Drone.
It is in fact NOT possible, to fly the M3 and to finally stop it smoothly!! In the moment the RC-Stick reaches its middle position the drone JERKY STUTTERY HARD-STOP!

This beahviour is independent from:
-EXP-Settings-Value
-Cine-/Normal-/Sport-mode
-speed the pilot is flying

-APAS Setting Bypass/Brake/Off
-or any other setting available

PLEASE DJI: Fix this problem and ADD Smooth-Brake-Sensitivity Settings like in the former models like P4 Pro!  At the moment, i´ts not a pleasure for cinematographers to fly this jerky beast


Thank you !!!


5-31 15:20
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Hi there. Thank you for reaching out. I will take this as a suggestion of yours and will forward it to our designated team for attention. After the evaluation of the engineers, significant suggestions or requests will be implemented via the firmware update, app update, etc. For any updates, please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com. Thank you for your understanding and support.
5-31 18:17
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Yep, after updating the brake settings just seem to have increased even more, it's so bad that I thought there was an ESC fault at first.

DJI - We need to be able to manually adjust the Brake gains, they are too high. I have all obstacle avoidance turned off and it is too sensitive, why is the M3 the only drone which flies this way?
6-1 00:26
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Hello DJI forum,
I have been using drones for many years. Mavic air 2018,2019,2020 then Mavic 2 Pro 2021,2022. Recently sold all drones to buy Mavic 3. Something happened which i never expected. I have flown other drones in low light but this one get lost by itself. Lost connection with remote and went away. My 2400 dollars lost just in few minutes. Mavic 3 have some issue. Otherwise i wouldn't have behaved that way. I request you to solve my issue and do something about my loss
6-3 22:48
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fans406ed25d Posted at 6-3 22:48
Hello DJI forum,
I have been using drones for many years. Mavic air 2018,2019,2020 then Mavic 2 Pro 2021,2022. Recently sold all drones to buy Mavic 3. Something happened which i never expected. I have flown other drones in low light but this one get lost by itself. Lost connection with remote and went away. My 2400 dollars lost just in few minutes. Mavic 3 have some issue. Otherwise i wouldn't have behaved that way. I request you to solve my issue and do something about my loss

If you want help to find what went wrong, the first thing to do is post your recorded flight data/
That might have some clues to help understand the incident.

Go to http://www.phantomhelp.com/LogViewer/Upload/
It has instructions to find the .txt file from your phone or tablet which you can upload to that site
Upload it and it gives you a summary of the flight data.
Post a link to that summary.

Or just post the .txt file
6-4 01:03
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the same behavior i faced this morning
6-4 03:15
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EGAERIAL
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Hi DJI.

Jerky Flight.
Sensors set to off but downward sensors are always active.
We need to be able to disable sensors to avoid jerky flight. Or Have the sensors switch off before they cause unstable flight.
There is too many situations in a normal days work where the Mavic 3 is having issues flying.

Sensors set to break.
I can't fly with the sensors set to break and I can't use bypass. When in break the drone in normal flying conditions at about 50ft over land constantly breaks when nothing is around it.

Harsh stopping.
The harsh stop is a massive issue. We can't use any shots coming to a stop. I have directors of photography asking why the drone is doing it and there's noting I can do to fix it.

I've seen the problems above in person with 4 Mavic 3's.

We also need continuous file numbering. If I have a job that goes over 2 days and I have to format at the start of every day the files start at DJI_001. So when the editor gets the files from day 1 and day 2 he has duplicate file names. So then I have to rename all the files which is an unnecessary waste of time.

Prores is capable of carrying time-code information. The Mavic 3 Cine, should have timecode considering it's called "Mavic 3 Cine". This is causing issues in post production. Having a shutter angle option would be good as well.
6-25 18:08
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From the inception of this model, right up to current firmware iteration, the handling and feel of this drone has never been quite right for me.  Hoping that it is not too late for DJI to get this right.  So many gains have been made with recent firmware updates, but the control issues do persist.
6-26 00:39
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EGAERIAL Posted at 6-25 18:08
Hi DJI.

Jerky Flight.

The downward sensors are not effecting the braking. It's easy to prove, climb to over 30 metres and the downward sensors will be out of range. Then check the braking again.

Have a play with the stick expo etc in settings.


6-26 06:23
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bjr981s Posted at 6-26 06:23
The downward sensors are not effecting the braking. It's easy to prove, climb to over 30 metres and the downward sensors will be out of range. Then check the braking again.

Have a play with the stick expo etc in settings.

This isn't EXP settings, this is the brake sensitivity. No amount of EXP tuning will change how hard a drone comes to a stop, it's the complete opposite. EXP adjusts the flight characteristics of stick input and when you release the sticks and they return to the home position, the brake settings determine how hard the drone comes to a stop.  
6-26 12:03
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CloudVisual Posted at 6-26 12:03
This isn't EXP settings, this is the brake sensitivity. No amount of EXP tuning will change how hard a drone comes to a stop, it's the complete opposite. EXP adjusts the flight characteristics of stick input and when you release the sticks and they return to the home position, the brake settings determine how hard the drone comes to a stop.

Using EXP you can  slow the drone prior to getting to neutral and change how dramatic the breaking becomes.
6-27 03:52
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Why is it brake sensitivity is going to fix this ? I keep hearing that Air2s comes to a” smooth stop” in fact I would say it comes to a lot smoother stop than any Phantom. Yet that drone doesn’t have Brake sensitivity. Give me what the Air2s has any day before brake sensitivity.
I’m also not convinced that how the Mavic 3 comes to a stop is affecting filming and I haven’t seen much evidence of this.
6-27 09:27
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hallmark007 Posted at 6-27 09:27
Why is it brake sensitivity is going to fix this ? I keep hearing that Air2s comes to a” smooth stop” in fact I would say it comes to a lot smoother stop than any Phantom. Yet that drone doesn’t have Brake sensitivity. Give me what the Air2s has any day before brake sensitivity.
I’m also not convinced that how the Mavic 3 comes to a stop is affecting filming and I haven’t seen much evidence of this.

I wrote something similar in another thread. I have been flying the Mavic 3 for some months now and although it does fly differently than the Mavic 2 pro I was previously using, I'm not sure it affects the footage, or, at least, I haven't seen this. I really do not mind it braking any way it likes provided that the footage remains smooth, which in fact it does, judging from what I have seen so far.
6-28 01:56
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mcde Posted at 6-28 01:56
I wrote something similar in another thread. I have been flying the Mavic 3 for some months now and although it does fly differently than the Mavic 2 pro I was previously using, I'm not sure it affects the footage, or, at least, I haven't seen this. I really do not mind it braking any way it likes provided that the footage remains smooth, which in fact it does, judging from what I have seen so far.

I think part of this has to do with the power difference the Mavic3 has and I certainly wouldn’t want that dumbed down. I think maybe a Cine mode where you have more control over speed might help. But you’re correct I have not had a single problem with “jerky” footage caused by how the craft flies.
6-28 03:57
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fans406ed25d Posted at 6-3 22:48
Hello DJI forum,
I have been using drones for many years. Mavic air 2018,2019,2020 then Mavic 2 Pro 2021,2022. Recently sold all drones to buy Mavic 3. Something happened which i never expected. I have flown other drones in low light but this one get lost by itself. Lost connection with remote and went away. My 2400 dollars lost just in few minutes. Mavic 3 have some issue. Otherwise i wouldn't have behaved that way. I request you to solve my issue and do something about my loss

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6-29 03:25
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mcde Posted at 6-28 01:56
I wrote something similar in another thread. I have been flying the Mavic 3 for some months now and although it does fly differently than the Mavic 2 pro I was previously using, I'm not sure it affects the footage, or, at least, I haven't seen this. I really do not mind it braking any way it likes provided that the footage remains smooth, which in fact it does, judging from what I have seen so far.

The jerkiness is definitely there, and it may look scary and unprofessional to the onlookers, but we still haven't seen any of those 'unusable' videos taken with the Mavic3 due to the jerkiness from any of  those professionals, yet.
6-29 13:39
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Monkey007 Posted at 6-29 13:39
The jerkiness is definitely there, and it may look scary and unprofessional to the onlookers, but we still haven't seen any of those 'unusable' videos taken with the Mavic3 due to the jerkiness from any of  those professionals, yet.

Maybe 'professionals' slow down the drone and cut out the actual braking/stop in post-production ? That is what I do anyway and I'm not a 'professional' by any means.
6-30 09:51
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PhanFran Posted at 6-30 09:51
Maybe 'professionals' slow down the drone and cut out the actual braking/stop in post-production ? That is what I do anyway and I'm not a 'professional' by any means.

Its quite practical to over shoot and to get extra footage as well as using editing software to improve footage. The Mavic3 is not to difficult to handle.
6-30 11:22
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hallmark007 Posted at 6-30 11:22
Its quite practical to over shoot and to get extra footage as well as using editing software to improve footage. The Mavic3 is not to difficult to handle.

Agreed.  I have had to remind myself to not just leave some extra footage at the end of each pass for editing, but to also back up and start the shot earlier that I may want to capture.  The art of the establishing shot is also something I am practicing.
6-30 18:12
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