Indio Posted at 7-5 02:53
D-cinelike is not a full LOG file (only less contrast and saturation)
so there is no LUT for
Just because it isn’t a LOG profile, doesn’t mean you can’t use a LUT on it. It does mean you won’t have as much latitude to make as much change, but you certainly can still use a LUT if it’s properly designed for that particular color profile.
The Istanbul footage is interesting, but I shudder to think how many laws this guy broke getting this footage, and I am constantly amazed at how the drone community (including this one) simply ignores how this (and most drone videos posted to YouTube) flagrantly and routinely violate regulations. And yet some wonder why there's so much hate out there for people flying drones, and why the restrictions keep getting tighter.
Violating airspace regs out in an empty, rural area, where nobody is around, is one thing. Flying directly over the center over one of the world's biggest cities, in a place that's super-densely populated, crowded (even at night), that's thick with major religious monuments -- flying directly over that nations #1 tourist attraction AND it's most holy place, in a country that's not exactly known for taking a gentle, hands-off attitude with people who break rules...well, that's something else.
Crack-downs on drone flying gonna come, more and more restrictions are inevitable, and as this kind of flagrant violation of the regulations continues, there will be be lots of consequences (beyond the DJI bot's automated nonsense post that will surely follow, with a friendly reminder to please "check all local drone laws"). When more and more restrictions and crackdowns with heavy-handed enforcement comes, don't be shocked. I've seen (and anyone who flies their mini in a location like this should watch it, too).
Burstmode Posted at 7-10 07:50
The Istanbul footage is interesting, but I shudder to think how many laws this guy broke getting this footage, and I am constantly amazed at how the drone community (including this one) simply ignores how this (and most drone videos posted to YouTube) flagrantly and routinely violate regulations. And yet some wonder why there's so much hate out there for people flying drones, and why the restrictions keep getting tighter.
Violating airspace regs out in an empty, rural area, where nobody is around, is one thing. Flying directly over the center over one of the world's biggest cities, in a place that's super-densely populated, crowded (even at night), that's thick with major religious monuments -- flying directly over that nations #1 tourist attraction AND it's most holy place, in a country that's not exactly known for taking a gentle, hands-off attitude with people who break rules...well, that's something else.
How do you know it was illegal recording, recording without permission...?
Burstmode Posted at 7-10 07:50
The Istanbul footage is interesting, but I shudder to think how many laws this guy broke getting this footage, and I am constantly amazed at how the drone community (including this one) simply ignores how this (and most drone videos posted to YouTube) flagrantly and routinely violate regulations. And yet some wonder why there's so much hate out there for people flying drones, and why the restrictions keep getting tighter.
Violating airspace regs out in an empty, rural area, where nobody is around, is one thing. Flying directly over the center over one of the world's biggest cities, in a place that's super-densely populated, crowded (even at night), that's thick with major religious monuments -- flying directly over that nations #1 tourist attraction AND it's most holy place, in a country that's not exactly known for taking a gentle, hands-off attitude with people who break rules...well, that's something else.
You are assuming many things without knowledge of the situation. This is not good!
( your reference to that 70’s movie is also utter nonsense)
Just tried them and can say with certainty that they are not a slap-on-solution. One blew out highlights like nothing before in one shot and lowers shadows a ton in both, and the other, while preserving highlights, blows out the blacks/darks.
Below I will give two examples using the first LUT called "GEODRONE LUT D-CINE". It's not the best edits, although I think they serve well as a lesson to why one should never rely fully on LUTs, and so it is clear some additional work will still be needed in most cases. The examples below are very similar in exposure, yet, the adjustments needed were quite different.
If anyone uses these with say Davinci Resolve, they would be advised to add some nodes before the LUT node to make some adjustments like so:
Example 1:
Original D-CINELIKE footage:
"GEODRONE LUT D-CINE" applied:
Added highlights node before LUT node to bring down highlights by -0.05 and lights by -.084 before the LUT node:
Added another node before the LUT to raise the shadows by 0.41:
Added yet another node before the LUT to adjust the blues in the sky by adding 67.4 saturation:
Example 2:
Original D-CINELIKE footage:
"GEODRONE LUT D-CINE" applied (here it did not blow out the highlights too much):
Added highlights node before LUT node to bring down highlights by -0.05 and lights by -.048 before the LUT node:
Added another node before the LUT to raise the shadows by 0.41:
Added yet another node before the LUT to adjust the blues in the sky by adding 57.9 saturation:
So as you can see, both needed adjustments, although not the same adjustments.
Ultimately, I often just apply a "Color space transform" node with the color space "BlackMagic Design Pocked 4K Film Gen 4" as a base as it works well with the D-CINELIKE profile, then make my edits manually. Although, some I save as LUT's to be reused in a specific folder. Often this will be LUTs with isolated edits, like a few different ones for different highlight situations, a few different ones for different shadow situations, and so on, as footage rarely has the same lighting conditions. That way I can just apply them to different nodes instead as it saves some time having to find my way back manually.
Luggruff Posted at 3-5 23:42
Just tried them and can say with certainty that they are not a slap-on-solution. One blew out highlights like nothing before in one shot and lowers shadows a ton in both, and the other, while preserving highlights, blows out the blacks/darks.
Below I will give two examples using the first LUT called "GEODRONE LUT D-CINE". It's not the best edits, although I think they serve well as a lesson to why one should never rely fully on LUTs, and so it is clear some additional work will still be needed in most cases. The examples below are very similar in exposure, yet, the adjustments needed were quite different.
It's better for sure, although the point about using LUTs still stands: You usually need to do quite a bit of adjustment in either case. It is rare for a LUT to work well "as is" considering all the different exposures and lighting conditions.
When I output the D-Cinelike footage in Rec. 2020 to get HLG HDR, I'm finding the greens and blues too vibrant with the LUTs posted above. Are there any different LUTs I should be using when outputting in Rec. 2020?
Luggruff Posted at 3-5 23:42
Just tried them and can say with certainty that they are not a slap-on-solution. One blew out highlights like nothing before in one shot and lowers shadows a ton in both, and the other, while preserving highlights, blows out the blacks/darks.
Below I will give two examples using the first LUT called "GEODRONE LUT D-CINE". It's not the best edits, although I think they serve well as a lesson to why one should never rely fully on LUTs, and so it is clear some additional work will still be needed in most cases. The examples below are very similar in exposure, yet, the adjustments needed were quite different.
Yes, the LUT we made was right at launch of the drone and not optimized, as we have written is a start point.
Also it was important that you go over 30FPS, as inside 30fps you have that double exposure and no LUT can anticipate that...
Still, all LUT have some steps:
1. Correct the WB
2. Correct the Highlights/Blacks
3. Upload the LUT.
If is not respected in this order, will fail.
Also in Davinci need to see the interpretation of footage .
Drone.Hunter, thanks for providing those 2 LUTs; yesterday, I compared 9 LUTs applied to D-Cinelike footage from Mini 3 pro via Kdenlive. For my eyes, these 2 produced optimum results with no funkiness and similar to the normal (non D-Cinelike) footage outputted by the mini 3 pro.
Rej Posted at 5-24 08:54
Drone.Hunter, thanks for providing those 2 LUTs; yesterday, I compared 9 LUTs applied to D-Cinelike footage from Mini 3 pro via Kdenlive. For my eyes, these 2 produced optimum results with no funkiness and similar to the normal (non D-Cinelike) footage outputted by the mini 3 pro.
Sorry for this naive question, but... if the LUT's provide you with the same output as straight from the mini 3 pro... then why start in D-Cinelike at all? I thought the whole idea was to create better output than the default.... :confused:
Frank071 Posted at 5-25 00:09
Sorry for this naive question, but... if the LUT's provide you with the same output as straight from the mini 3 pro... then why start in D-Cinelike at all? I thought the whole idea was to create better output than the default.... :confused:
Normal - 8 bit
D-Cinelike - 10 bit
And if you wish, you can use other LUTs
Burstmode Posted at 2022-7-10 07:50
The Istanbul footage is interesting, but I shudder to think how many laws this guy broke getting this footage, and I am constantly amazed at how the drone community (including this one) simply ignores how this (and most drone videos posted to YouTube) flagrantly and routinely violate regulations. And yet some wonder why there's so much hate out there for people flying drones, and why the restrictions keep getting tighter.
Violating airspace regs out in an empty, rural area, where nobody is around, is one thing. Flying directly over the center over one of the world's biggest cities, in a place that's super-densely populated, crowded (even at night), that's thick with major religious monuments -- flying directly over that nations #1 tourist attraction AND it's most holy place, in a country that's not exactly known for taking a gentle, hands-off attitude with people who break rules...well, that's something else.
Burstmode Posted at 2022-7-10 07:50
The Istanbul footage is interesting, but I shudder to think how many laws this guy broke getting this footage, and I am constantly amazed at how the drone community (including this one) simply ignores how this (and most drone videos posted to YouTube) flagrantly and routinely violate regulations. And yet some wonder why there's so much hate out there for people flying drones, and why the restrictions keep getting tighter.
Violating airspace regs out in an empty, rural area, where nobody is around, is one thing. Flying directly over the center over one of the world's biggest cities, in a place that's super-densely populated, crowded (even at night), that's thick with major religious monuments -- flying directly over that nations #1 tourist attraction AND it's most holy place, in a country that's not exactly known for taking a gentle, hands-off attitude with people who break rules...well, that's something else.
I recently returned from London UK and I had NO RESTRICTION to fly my 249g DJI Mini 3 Pro in the heart of the most secure place in London. I asume that Instambul is way more smaller than London.
For touristic purpuse, I guess that you can use a drone...
KlooGee Posted at 2022-7-5 06:15
Just because it isn’t a LOG profile, doesn’t mean you can’t use a LUT on it. It does mean you won’t have as much latitude to make as much change, but you certainly can still use a LUT if it’s properly designed for that particular color profile.
Hi. From where i can download free luts for mini 3 pro?