Train depot vid - skidding issue?
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I've made another vid. I dont know why but i see some skidding frames on it, do you know why? I've exported it in variable bitrate - may it be the purpose?
Ive tried to not make jerky moves but it is still an issue for me i had to delete and cut some fragments.
Ive tried to take only nice footage instead of tones of material, but editting took me 3-4 hours prevoius vid i made in 20 minutes, i dont know why, its a little bit longer and i had more cuts to combine and used most of them i have te rethink it
Another think for me to improve is not shoting just where i started but to find nice spot, there are some cuts where i was trying to show train depot but half of the screen is occupied by starage roof.
Im glad to hear your opinions about, its not "just enjoy it" yet, but still you can find some nice views i think


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Nice footage.  
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I see what you mean about the jerkiness. It's an annoying distraction, isn't it.  Have you tried a different frame rate (FPS)?
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I've posted constant frame (24fps) video too, i think its a little bit better, but not perfect, 60 fps video should  eliminate that problem? How do you think?
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Blériot53 Posted at 7-16 01:27
I see what you mean about the jerkiness. It's an annoying distraction, isn't it.  Have you tried a different frame rate (FPS)?

no but i will, ill also check the root videos if they are smooth or not, i discovered this skidding today, after final editing i was editing yestarday night so could be sleepy
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fateofangel Posted at 7-16 02:01
no but i will, ill also check the root videos if they are smooth or not, i discovered this skidding today, after final editing i was editing yestarday night so could be sleepy

If the original footaage is smooth, but the edited result is jerky, it could be something to do with the timeline framerate. For example I once shot at 24FPS and tried to edit it to 25FPS. That resulted in a micro-jump every second throughout the video.
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Constant framerate 24 fps on 2nd video made a diffrence, 36sec - for example
i have chacked root videos and they are not skidded,  but some of them are a little bit blurry

Ill replace this vid to constant framerate than, maybe videopad is not a perfect tool i have to check other programs
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fateofangel Posted at 7-16 02:37
Constant framerate 24 fps on 2nd video made a diffrence, 36sec - for example
i have chacked root videos and they are not skidded,  but some of them are a little bit blurry

I use the FREE version of Davinci Resolve, by BlackMagic Design.
It's a full-function version for non-commercial use, and it's very powerful.
But it's a steep learning curve. I'm still on the lower slopes
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fateofangel Posted at 7-16 01:37
I've posted constant frame (24fps) video too, i think its a little bit better, but not perfect, 60 fps video should  eliminate that problem? How do you think?
https://youtu.be/zHnOviMEq8Y

Better than the previous version, for sure.
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Crisp and sharp image of the city! Well done, fateofangel. Thanks for sharing this with us.
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Did you export in the same frame rate as you recorded the video?
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Depp Posted at 7-17 07:05
Did you export in the same frame rate as you recorded the video?

I exported variable framerate
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fateofangel Posted at 7-17 07:13
I exported variable framerate

I suggest you use the exact frame rate as the source video.
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Depp Posted at 7-19 03:54
I suggest you use the exact frame rate as the source video.

thats what i am doing now, also ill try higher framerates soon
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fateofangel Posted at 7-19 04:41
thats what i am doing now, also ill try higher framerates soon

Good luck.
No use testing higher frame rates unless you want to slow it down in post production.
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Depp Posted at 7-19 21:29
Good luck.
No use testing higher frame rates unless you want to slow it down in post production.

i understand, but need to experience that by myself
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Remember to keep the timeline in the same framerate (or a equivalent) as the original footage.
Otherwise you will get frame skipping.
(unless your editor allows for slowing it down exactly the right amounts of frames).
So when you shoot in 30fps, you can't simply put it in 24fps or 25fps.
If you do that, it will keep the footage the same duration and simply drop frames unevenly.
The most easy example is when you have footage that is shot at 30fps and you edit in 25fps
The editor will drop 1 out of every 6 frames to make this work.
The common of 30 and 25 divider is 5, so lets make it 5 groups.  
So the 30fps footage looks like this 123456-123456-123456-123456-123456 for one second of footage.
Now the 25fps footage will only have 5 frames per group 12345-12345-12345-12345-12345, so your editor will skip 1 out of every 6 frames.

This will make for very small skips in your footage (and it works the same when you change to other framerates. (with different numbers of course)
The only thing that can work, is using double or half the framerate (50-25 etc.)

Some editors alow for matching the framerate of the footage to your project's framerate. This will slow down (or speed up) your footage to the exact right percentage. (and won't give these skipping)


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PS, I really like the subject.
Remember to make SLOW moves!
That works much better usually
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Montfrooij Posted at 8-10 23:18
PS, I really like the subject.
Remember to make SLOW moves!
That works much better usually

i was exporting variable framerate via Wideo Pad Editor, being sure its proper due to possibility of changing/ testing fps by me but i experienced skidding issue

Do you know how to check the framerate of the cut?
Now i record constant fps all the cuts
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fateofangel Posted at 8-11 08:52
i was exporting variable framerate via Wideo Pad Editor, being sure its proper due to possibility of changing/ testing fps by me but i experienced skidding issue

Do you know how to check the framerate of the cut?

If you are on windows, it's a simple right click and then 'details'.
My editor also shows the framerate of the footage.
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Montfrooij Posted at 8-11 23:22
If you are on windows, it's a simple right click and then 'details'.
My editor also shows the framerate of the footage.

i think i was trying that (WIN), ill check again, ohh i a  have old win 7
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fateofangel Posted at 8-13 09:06
i think i was trying that (WIN), ill check again, ohh i a  have old win 7

That does not matter. Works from win95 I guess.
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Montfrooij Posted at 8-14 03:39
That does not matter. Works from win95 I guess.

https://ibb.co/1by18cq
i got bitrate only
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MINI 2 ......
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fateofangel Posted at 8-14 05:03
https://ibb.co/1by18cq
i got bitrate only

Can you share via the forum?
I don't want to open these kind of links.
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Yeah, I know.
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fateofangel Posted at 8-14 05:03
https://ibb.co/1by18cq
i got bitrate only

Looks like the forum has a problem right now.
IT should be the last option under video.
Also you can add it in the explorer columns (framerate) when you are in 'details' mode
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Ok its https://imgbb.com/
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I've also found my Go Pro (8) MP4 vides have information about frames but DJI's do not
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