AVATA / Goggles 2 - Very short video signal range and penetration !
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TonDaron
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Hi

I leave in the middle of nowhere, so no interferences around me.

I have very bad results with the video signal transmission. See here on vimeo https vimeo com 743903951
Sometimes video brake just 150m away without major obstacle. For instance my 400mW analog mobula7 can go further...
I can't go past 900m LOS with no obstacles, I loose the video signal.
I can't go past 175m with just a line of trees betwin me and the drone.

This with the goggles 2 and the avata. Very far from the "amazing" video range advertised on youtube.

For comparison, in the excat same spot, I can go about 1,5-2km with my air2s.

Anyone having bad results like this or a way to fix this ?


Edit - added video link and accurate values
2022-8-27
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bjr981s
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This may well be a limitation of using the motion controller. Maybe the FPV Controller 2 will correct.
2022-8-27
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Bigplumbs
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Its to the goggles surely the signal from the drone to the Goggles does not go via the controller ?
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TonDaron
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bjr981s Posted at 8-27 06:55
This may well be a limitation of using the motion controller. Maybe the FPV Controller 2 will correct.

Lol no, nice try ;) . Be assured, I'm fighting to for DJI to release the fpv controler with the drone. I m asking for the goggles to be compatible with the vista too etc..
But no, Video transmission has nothing to do with the controler ;) The issue comes from the goggles/fly app or the avat itself.
2022-8-27
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frankymusik
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Is this FCC or CE...?
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TonDaron
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frankymusik Posted at 8-27 08:28
Is this FCC or CE...?

This is CE.
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JustName
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Yes, the same here. Round about 170 Meters and the videosignal is almost lost.
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Oh!
That's too bad! But it can't be like that...
I won't be able to test it outside until tomorrow at the earliest, I've only prepared everything "indoor" so far... And the Fly More Kit hasn't arrived yet either...
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Bigplumbs Posted at 8-27 07:19
Its to the goggles surely the signal from the drone to the Goggles does not go via the controller ?

If it is anything like all the previous Goggle products DJI have released The Goggles act as a secondary controller. The primary controller is the RC Remote Control.

The goggles is used for Video (and for head tracking signal only if the goggles support tracking for the Camera only.) So no Operation control from any of their Goggles.

Check my Inventory in my Avatar. I have all the dji goggles and have used those capabile of head tracking using dual goggles.

So to be clear, Control signal is from controller to Drone.
Video is from Drone to goggles.

Also 5.8 Ghz has lower range than 2.4Ghz.
2022-8-29
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Aerorealms
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wow!!!! that's unflyable...well, all the early reviews are from paid youtubers. If you look carefully all of them follow the same premises and say the same points.
2022-8-29
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mike3deep
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Yeah I'm getting the same thing on the CE version.  Hoping it's something simple that can be fixed on a firmware update.  Also just wondering are the FCC and CE versions completely separate products, or are they the same and just limited in the software/firmware due to regulations?  Would be useful to know for if I ever visited the states.  
2022-8-30
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TonDaron
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mike3deep Posted at 8-30 14:09
Yeah I'm getting the same thing on the CE version.  Hoping it's something simple that can be fixed on a firmware update.  Also just wondering are the FCC and CE versions completely separate products, or are they the same and just limited in the software/firmware due to regulations?  Would be useful to know for if I ever visited the states.

As far as I understand, hardware is the same. FCC/CE limitation is software applied.. I don't think there will be a fix cause the issue is due to CE regulation. DJI is just complying to CE rules. The reduction in signal power is very huge.
2022-8-30
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mike3deep Posted at 8-30 14:09
Yeah I'm getting the same thing on the CE version.  Hoping it's something simple that can be fixed on a firmware update.  Also just wondering are the FCC and CE versions completely separate products, or are they the same and just limited in the software/firmware due to regulations?  Would be useful to know for if I ever visited the states.

If it is like other DJI drones, then it is software settings depending on your GPS location.
2022-8-30
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djiuser_rPttewzTGU0m
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I get the same issue, video loss after 150m. But my mini 3 will go 2km before any loss in the same location. Very annoying, I hope someone finds a fix for this.
2022-8-30
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d-boone
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Same issue here. Flying on an open field, the signal almost drops when flying behind a tree at 250m distance. Also flying around the house is a struggle.
Why is Avata limited to 2 km range in Europe, while other DJI products have 6 km range for Europe?

DJI please provide a solution
2022-8-30
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djiuser_d8zGyvUtZPQk
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Would the same problem happen with the Avata kit with the V2 goggles? I remember that the V2's where listed for 6km back then.
2022-8-31
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djiuser_d8zGyvUtZPQk Posted at 8-31 00:24
Would the same problem happen with the Avata kit with the V2 goggles? I remember that the V2's where listed for 6km back then.

That is the same that DC Rainmaker states in his video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_dKeZd9Olc&t=250s 5:51. Range in CE Mode seems to be much worse for Goggles 2 (2km) than V2 (6km).

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OKay, im glad I found this bc I have the exact same issue. Got the Pro Avata pack expecting something resembling the range on my Mavic 2 Pro and couldn't believe that I'm losing signal within 200m. Really disapointed with this. So basically to get wild shots I need to be physically very close to al the geographic things im looking to capture. LAME!
2022-9-7
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KLRSKIR
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Have you stepped out to your fence-line and tried it? Those trees and then around the corner are soaking up your signal.
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Aerorealms Posted at 8-29 08:00
wow!!!! that's unflyable...well, all the early reviews are from paid youtubers. If you look carefully all of them follow the same premises and say the same points.

To be Devils advocate, maybe the youtubers have been genuine and didnt have an issue with range as all the ones I have seen have been in the FCC region. I cant think of one in the CE region.
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djiuser_d8zGyvUtZPQk Posted at 8-31 00:24
Would the same problem happen with the Avata kit with the V2 goggles? I remember that the V2's where listed for 6km back then.

Of course, V2 googles were advertised as 6Km because the DJI PFV in CE mode could transmit video at 2.4GHz at 0.1W while the Avata can only transmit video at 5.8GHz at 0.025W.

Both Goggles 2 and V2 range will be about the same when paired either with the Avata or the FPV. You'll probably get a marginal benefit on the V2 because it has 4 antennas, but appart from that, the technology on both is excatly the same and the range you can get comes from the power the drone is able to transmit.

If you want better range the only solution is to force FCC on it, there's a free mod and also paid hacks to do it. 5.8GHz CE power is 0.025W and FCC power is 2W wich yep, it's 80 times more power.
2022-9-7
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Purplefish
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I have the same issue with the video signal on my Avata. I  am in the UK (subject to CE regulation). I note the comments above  and indeed found the YouTube links to alter the drone's region to FCC, but surely this would be illegal (albeit difficult for an authority to check), but in the event that it was found out...
2022-9-21
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fans77059f16
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Same issue here. 150 meters and connection is dropping. Please fix Dji
2022-9-22
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TonDaron
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Hi all.

I have used my avata under both FCC and EU regulation.
EU radio power makes avata almost unflyable. Flying under FCC rules makes the avata perfect for the job.
2022-9-22
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Fred Fred Fred
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Nice test.
2022-9-22
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This small hack works - Jumpe to FCC mode in 2 sec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUsYbV2fV2c&t=0s
2022-9-25
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