Is there a DJI Phantom forum in the Dutch language?
Are there Phantom pilots in Flanders or the Netherlands who visit this forum?

Yep, there are Dutch speaking people on this forum.

Count me in.

Count me in as well (flanders, Aarschot region)

ernieken Posted at 2015-8-9 22:11
Count me in as well (flanders, Aarschot region)

In de zomermaanden verblijf ik op camping "De Roygaerden" in Begijnendijk.
Het is een bosrijke omgeving en niet makkelijk om daar te vliegen.
De Belgische wetgeving laat echter niet veel toe.
Waar in de omgeving van Aarschot is er een veilig gebied voor onze hobby?

In the summer, I stay at Camping "The Roygaerden" in Begijnendijk.
It is a wooded area and not easy to fly there.
However, the Belgian legislation does not add much.
Where around Aarschot there is a safe area for our hobby?

(Google translate)

peboant Posted at 2015-8-10 05:42
In de zomermaanden verblijf ik op camping "De Roygaerden" in Begijnendijk.
Het is een bosrijke omge ...

Dat is te ver van mijn "home point", ik zou het niet weten.
Ik weet niet zeker wat de Belgische regels zijn, maar ik heb eens gehoord dat de Nederlandse regels iets soepeler zijn. Misschien een tripje over de grens waard ?

jaapotto Posted at 2015-8-11 00:39
Dat is te ver van mijn "home point", ik zou het niet weten.
Ik weet niet zeker wat de Belgische r ...

In de nieuwe wet wordt onder meer voorzien dat drones voor privégebruik alleen boven privéterrein mogen vliegen en niet hoger dan 30 meter.
Je zou denken dat dat eerder voor speelgoed zou moeten gelden.
Vanwaar die angst? Terrorisme?

jaapotto Posted at 2015-8-11 00:39
Dat is te ver van mijn "home point", ik zou het niet weten.
Ik weet niet zeker wat de Belgische r ...

Niemand bekend in de omgeving Aarschot?

peboant Posted at 2015-8-11 01:09
In de nieuwe wet wordt onder meer voorzien dat drones voor privégebruik alleen boven privéterrei ...

Het is niet te hopen dat dit Europese regelgeving gaat worden want dan kunnen we wel stoppen met onze mooie hobby. Bij mij in de omgeving was er zo'n idioot die zijn drone op Schiphol-terrein liet landen! Daarmee kun je het dus voor de rest verzieken.

30 meter hoogte slaat natuurlijk nergens op.

Stealth... Posted at 2015-8-11 01:17
Het is niet te hopen dat dit Europese regelgeving gaat worden want dan kunnen we wel stoppen met o ...

De redenering achter de 30 meter limiet zou luiden:  een ambtenaar zou deze hoogte nog kunnen inschatten!
En dan de privacy, er hangt een camera onder, dus..... opgepast !   Papparazi, uw kans is met deze nieuwe wet verkeken.

Hoi,

Hier nog een Nederlands sprekend forum bezoeker. Kom uit de omgeving van Utrecht.
Heer another native Dutch speaking forum visitor. Living nearby the City of Utrecht

This is an english language forum. Feel free to at least translate your messages which could be interesting for others.

As a remind, flying in Belgium is forbidden and unfortunately will stay forbidden in the future. The coming law is for professionals only.

"Private use"
Max 1 kg (so our Phantoms are grounded !)
Max height : 10m
Above private fields

"Commercial use"
Max height : 300ft
DGTA agreement for corporate
Drone registration
min 18 years old
LAPL medical
General Aviation theory exam (50 questions based on gliders or HAB)
Drone theory exam
Practical exam

More : candidates have to be presented by an official instructor from an official school
If some want the official powerpoint from Galant I have it (in french only)

Hier is wat ik heb gevonden deze namiddag voor Nederland : http://darpas.nl/wp-content/uplo ... egen_met_drones.pdf
Our Dutch neighbours have a lot of chance. They can even fly up to 300m (which is in my point of view out of interest) !!!

peboant Posted at 2015-8-11 02:01
De redenering achter de 30 meter limiet zou luiden:  een ambtenaar zou deze hoogte nog kunnen insch ...

Die hoogte is eenvoudig te controleren in de flightrecords.;) Wat privacy betreft gaan ze dan ook de smartphones verbieden? Hier in Nederland is het vliegen binnen de bebouwde kom verboden en boven plaatsen waar zich publiek bevindt. Vanzelfsprekend ook de No-flight zones in de omgeving van Luchthavens en tevens maximale vlieghoogte 300m. Verder wordt er onderscheid gemaakt tussen de hobby-vlieger en het vliegen voor commerciële doeleinden.

Ulysse Posted at 2015-8-11 02:12
This is an english language forum. Feel free to at least translate your messages which could be inte ...

As you were saying interesting for other flyers. I don't think thusfar it's interesting for our bro's overseas. Our conversation is about  the Dutch and Belgium Law for hobby-flyers.;)

You should better go to a dutch forum.
Everybody here is supposed to fly in foreign countries and it is always intersting to know the flying rules elsewhere.

Ulysse Posted at 2015-8-11 03:20
You should better go to a dutch forum.
Everybody here is supposed to fly in foreign countries and i ...

There is NO good Dutch forum(about Quadkopters)............technical spoken............they just 'lullen'
the best Forums are in Germany but last time they are asking 10/20 times the same questions because they are to lazy to 'google' in the forum to find an answer.
By the way I am located near Antwerpen , often coming to Langdorp (son).
I started with PH2 and now for about 4 months I am flying Ph3P. Very close to me (voorkempen) we have some large acres where You can fly easely 1 km
For the moment I fly V1.2.0 DJI and Pilot App V 1.1.9 and I am waiting for flying WP's (waypoints) as I did with my PH2
You can see my  FLY locations on the 'Flytrex' map.(Piloot Yves)
See You hear You

Ulysse Posted at 2015-8-11 03:20
You should better go to a dutch forum.
Everybody here is supposed to fly in foreign countries and i ...

Why? The thread was targeting users from Holland or Belium. I see you are from there, but don't know the language? Stick with the English threads. Some may have very limited english reading skills, but should still be able to partake.

Roygaerden is very close to were I live.
For the moment, in Belgium you can only legally fly in approved clubs.
Starting from September 1st 2015, as a hobby flyer you can fly above private property with a maximum height of 30m. Not great but better than nothing
Besides that, in the few remote areas you have in Belgium I would take the 'risk' to fly but always use common sense: not too high, away from buildings/obstacles and other people etc.
I notice that everywhere 'cowboys' are ruining our hobby. So to everybody: think before you fly!
Claims about privacy are a bit stupid I think. Then you have to forbid as well dashcams, ULM's, hot air balloons, ... But that's my opinion... Again, think before you fly and don't start filming your neighbours.
Happy flying!

Stealth... Posted at 2015-8-11 03:07
Die hoogte is eenvoudig te controleren in de flightrecords.;) Wat privacy betreft gaan ze dan ook d ...

Per 1 juli mag er nog maar max. 120 meter hoog gevlogen worden in nederland.

michael.hvr Posted at 2015-8-11 04:22
Per 1 juli mag er nog maar max. 120 meter hoog gevlogen worden in nederland.

Okay if that's the new rule 120m max so be it. I won't complain. on the other hand I don't believe Amsterdam PD gives it any priority.;)

yvesvn@gmail.co Posted at 2015-8-11 04:07
There is NO good Dutch forum(about Quadkopters)............technical spoken............they just ' ...

Sorry if there is no good dutch forum but while I have absolutely no problems with dutch language (I know it enough to understand even if I'm not fluent with it) or any other language I think it's a matter of respect of other users to use the base language of a forum. Moreover as english is somewhat "universal"...

Regarding the upcoming belgian law, some people will be surprised...
Here is the powepoint from the minister (sorry but I didn't find the dutch version) : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.co ... sentation%20FR.pptx

Above 1 Kg, the only way to fly will be model clubs... out of interest for our flying camera !

I'm living (and flying) in the Netherlands and am an English speaking South African. Mijn Nederlands wordt snel verbeterd. (My Dutch is improving quickly.) I usually fly around between Huizen and Amstelveen with my very new P3.

@Ulysse
Regarding the upcoming belgian law, some people will be surprised...
Here is the powepoint from the minister (sorry but I didn't find the dutch version) : ....................



Stupid Belgium law....................it is laughing EVERY COUNTRY his OWN law!!!!   We are living in EUROP arent we ?
Do You see a pilot flying his PH3 just under /above the trees in his neighbourhood ? laughing

Don't want to turn this thread into politics but Europe is only a "concept"... which for example makes you a criminal if you drive at 150 km/h on highways in most eu countries but not on the "Autobahn" !!!
Anyway, even with laws allowing drones in the sky (like in The Netherlands), we will see more and more angry people like in this video : http://www.dronewatch.nl/2015/08 ... drone-uit-de-lucht/
The same kind of people who claim about their privacy while at the same time they use smartphones, credit cards and tell on facebook when they are going to the toilets !!!

Sometimes, it takes me hours to analyze Google Maps to find a spot where I can fly far from any houses, touristic ways, people and supposed police presence, measuring the distances from towns and villages, checking the terrain to be sure I can fly LOS without obstacle... Even in south belgium, without too much urbanisation it's not that easy to find !

Happy flying and... keep hidden

sacha Posted at 2015-8-11 15:25
I'm living (and flying) in the Netherlands and am an English speaking South African. Mijn Nederlands ...

I'm also flying in Amstelveen.

Hello , here's another Dutch drone user , I recently received my first fine for taking off from my backyard 300 euros, but finds it an often trivial high amount especially when it opposes the fool who went off at Schiphol , while enshrined the lost control of his drone which he was facing allegations beside the landing runway ?
this man fined "only" 500 euros, I let it occur, I find this totally not disproportionate , we will see what the court decides ?

What was the reason for the fine you received ? Are you located in a NFZ ?

Ulysse Posted at 2015-8-11 19:39
What was the reason for the fine you received ? Are you located in a NFZ ?

He himself didn't get fined. Some other idiot who lost 'control' of his drone somewhere above Schiphol airport.

Well, he wrote : " I recently received my first fine for taking off from my backyard 300 euros,..."

Ulysse Posted at 2015-8-11 18:30
Don't want to turn this thread into politics but Europe is only a "concept"... which for example mak ...

If you follow the rules very stricktly its indeed quite a challange to find a proper flying spot. But I must admit ive broken one of the rules sometimes just to be able to fly, but always use common sense.

Rules like "dont fly above crowds" or "dont fly near an airport" are clear: DONT DO IT.
But ive flown above a grass field and a school yard within a city. And within a flight restricted area (which is 16,5 kilometers away from the closest airport).
Planes are not the main danger there (or above any big city in my opinion). It's the trauma helicopters and gas-pipeline-check helicopters that you need to stay the hell away from (I dont mean try to avoid them as in move out of the way, i mean do not fly there where they can be)

The rules for flying drones are general rules. They apply to all drones, not only to those made by DJI. If you keep that in mind a connection loss on some drones can mean a instand fly away or an uncontrolable drone. DJI drones are somewhat protected against this with its Return To Home function

Ulysse Posted at 2015-8-12 01:01
Well, he wrote : " I recently received my first fine for taking off from my backyard 300 euros,..."

Ah, indeed so he did

peboant Posted at 2015-8-11 01:09
In de nieuwe wet wordt onder meer voorzien dat drones voor privégebruik alleen boven privéterrei ...

Een terrorist trekt zich niets aan van de wet, hier wordt alleen de hobbyist getroffen, ik word langzamerhand een beetje moe van de regelzucht van nl-eu

That will always be : there are some STUPIDS and that makes it difficult for the others....................

So lets discuss where are the best spots to fly free, here an example

Brecht

Strictly speaking, it was not allowed , just find the fine too high especially if you look at the man at Schiphol lost control of his drone which he was facing allegations off the track , he got 500 , - euro

k.kavelaars@qui Posted at 2015-8-12 21:31
Strictly speaking, it was not allowed , just find the fine too high especially if you look at th ...

How did the police find you? Did they just see the drone and see it land in your yard? Or did your neighbours call the police?
I'm very interested because strictly speaking, I never fly legal (from the roof of my student house) and I'm not interested in being fined!

ThijsvdB Posted at 2015-8-14 02:01
How did the police find you? Did they just see the drone and see it land in your yard? Or did your ...

Thanks to the hobby-flyers who don't respect the rules the regulations are getting worse for all of us.

ThijsvdB Posted at 2015-8-14 02:01
How did the police find you? Did they just see the drone and see it land in your yard? Or did your ...

Thanks to the hobby-flyers who don't respect the rules the regulations are getting worse for all of us.

Stealth... Posted at 2015-8-14 03:41
Thanks to the hobby-flyers who don't respect the rules the regulations are getting worse for all o ...

Except you don't know my housing situation. If you did I think you'd understand why I think it's okay to take off from where I do ;)

As a poor engineering student without a car and loads of money, I try to make the most of this joyful hobby, by flying in my neighbourhood.

This guy lives in my neighborhood, and just came home, he heard something in the air, and when he saw my drone just in my own backyard  he stood right in front of my gate, I found it a little pathetic in your own time that you feel the need to give your fellow man a lesson it was pure bad luck, ok it was not allowed, but he also could have given my a warning, I put no one in danger and had  full control over my  drone different from that morron at Schiphol so I leave it appearance in court just for the hight of the fine, not to deny..