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I noticed with the Mini 3 Pro, it does not allow you to have yaw control while in RTH mode.  In the Spark, Mini, and Mini 2, it is possible to look around while in RTH mode (sort of like headless mode as the drone returns home).  

DJI - Please add this functionality as the Mini 3 is a downgrade in this regard compared to the Spark, Mini, and Mini 2.

Thanks.

Addendum:  I understand Mini 3 has OA and with OA on, yaw isn't possible as the sensors need to be pointed in the direction of flight as many commented.  However, when OA is disabled, the pilot should have the option to yaw and control the camera while RTH as OA has nothing to do with this scenario.
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Hi,

Because in RTH the OA is active DJI does not want us to rotate the Mini3Pro, safety first!

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JJB* Posted at 11-7 09:15
Hi,

Because in RTH the OA is active DJI does not want us to rotate the Mini3Pro, safety first!

Incorrect.  Read my post.  This feature is in every Mini so far but not the Mini 3 Pro.
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Element115 Posted at 11-7 09:17
Incorrect.  Read my post.  This feature is in every Mini so far but not the Mini 3 Pro.

The Mini 3 is the first Mini with OA.
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Element115 Posted at 11-7 09:17
Incorrect.  Read my post.  This feature is in every Mini so far but not the Mini 3 Pro.

the mini 3 pro is the first dji mini drone with oa.
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The Saint Posted at 11-7 09:45
the mini 3 pro is the first dji mini drone with oa.

OA has nothing to do with this function.

If you're happy with a downgrade that's fine with me but personally, I'd like the features I had with the  cheaper DJI models on this relatively expensive new drone.


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Element115 Posted at 11-7 10:12
OA has nothing to do with this function.

If you're happy with a downgrade that's fine with me but personally, I'd like the features I had with the  cheaper DJI models on this relatively expensive new drone.

Yes it does, no DJI drone with OA has it.
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Mobilehomer Posted at 11-7 10:14
Yes it does, no DJI drone with OA has it.

That's not a reason.  OA is only active if you turn it on.  YAW while RTH should be available when OA is off.  Are you saying it should not allow you to YAW even when OA is NOT active?  Doesn't make any sense.
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RTFM

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I know how OA works so no need for education.  My stance remains the same; give us yaw control back while RTH when OA is off.  

You don't need to use it if you don't want to.  I've been using this function for over a decade on my drones and it would be a sad feature to lose, especially on those long RTH trips back.
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It's a minor feature that can be replicated manually, quite easily.

If the drone flies sideways the OA cannot work. I'd rather have the OA

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You can't have active obstacle avoidance during RTH while yawing about.  The OA sensors need to face forward to function.  The reason the Mini/Mini 2, or ANY DJI drone without OA can yaw about during RTH is because THEY DON'T HAVE OA.  OA Drones that use Go4 can yaw as there is a setting to disable OA during RTH.  Fly lacks that setting.
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Element115 Posted at 11-7 10:16
That's not a reason.  OA is only active if you turn it on.  YAW while RTH should be available when OA is off.  Are you saying it should not allow you to YAW even when OA is NOT active?  Doesn't make any sense.

In the Mini 3 you cannot disable OA during RTH.  Even if you turn OA off, it enables during RTH.  There is no setting in Fly to alter this behavior.  OA-enabled birds that use Go4 have a toggle to enable OA during RTH so, if you disable it, you can yaw during RTH.  Unless DJI adds an OA during RTH toggle, you won't be yawing during RTH.
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Hi there. Thank you for bringing this information with us. I will take this as a suggestion of yours and will forward it to our designated team for attention. After the engineers' evaluation, significant suggestions or requests will be implemented via the firmware update, app update, etc. For any updates, please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com. Thank you for your understanding and support.
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DJI Gamora Posted at 11-7 10:55
Hi there. Thank you for bringing this information with us. I will take this as a suggestion of yours and will forward it to our designated team for attention. After the engineers' evaluation, significant suggestions or requests will be implemented via the firmware update, app update, etc. For any updates, please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com. Thank you for your understanding and support.

Thank you as I don't think anyone else here actually read my post.  It would be great to get this feature back.

Thanks.
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Dirty Bird Posted at 11-7 10:38
In the Mini 3 you cannot disable OA during RTH.  Even if you turn OA off, it enables during RTH.  There is no setting in Fly to alter this behavior.  OA-enabled birds that use Go4 have a toggle to enable OA during RTH so, if you disable it, you can yaw during RTH. unless DJI adds an OA during RTH toggle, you won't be yawing during RTH.

That's an implementation they can change easily.
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Element115 Posted at 11-7 11:13
Thank you as I don't think anyone else here actually read my post.  It would be great to get this feature back.

Thanks.

we have read and understand what you are talking about, 100%.  please don't try to pretend that you're the only person who knows anything about this.  however, we all understand that even though you have been flying for a "decade" apparently you need to hijack the rth function in order to fly your drone in a straight line so you can get some good video with yaw control.  apparently your skillz don't permit you to do this otherwise on your own; apparently you didn't have the mavic2.

anyway, dji will accept your feature request but i guarantee you they will never allow you to defeat the oa function during rth without first installing a switch.
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The Saint Posted at 11-7 11:28
we have read and understand what you are talking about, 100%.  please don't try to pretend that you're the only person who knows anything about this.  however, we all understand that even though you have been flying for a "decade" apparently you need to hijack the rth function in order to fly your drone in a straight line so you can get some good video with yaw control.  apparently your skillz don't permit you to do this otherwise on your own; apparently you didn't have the mavic2.

anyway, dji will accept your feature request but i guarantee you they will never allow you to defeat the oa function during rth without first installing a switch.

Well, I guess it hurts to be wrong.  I don't see anyone pretending here except you.  Have a good day.
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Gusdog Posted at 11-7 10:31
It's a minor feature that can be replicated manually, quite easily.

If the drone flies sideways the OA cannot work. I'd rather have the OA

You'll still have OA if you enabled it.  If OA is disabled by the pilot, yaw while RTH should function just as it did on Spark, Mini,  and Mini 2.
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Element115 Posted at 11-7 09:17
Incorrect.  Read my post.  This feature is in every Mini so far but not the Mini 3 Pro.

Yes i know....

But the Mini3Pro has OA sensors, so no yawing in RTH !

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JJB* Posted at 11-7 12:49
Yes i know....

But the Mini3Pro has OA sensors, so no yawing in RTH !

Read the post.  OA can be disabled by the user.
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Element115 Posted at 11-7 11:13
Thank you as I don't think anyone else here actually read my post.  It would be great to get this feature back.

Thanks.

Hi, Element115. My pleasure. We'd like you to know that we appreciate your valuable suggestions. Please note that we already submitted your suggestion for evaluation. Have a good one!
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Element115 Posted at 11-7 13:40
Read the post.  OA can be disabled by the user.

Not in RTH, its not possible, as you have already been told by other members, because this drone has OA, and even if the pilot has disabled it, it automatically turns on during RTH, its the same for other DJI drones with OA.

OA during RTH is NOT optional, the media team here will submit your suggestions but DJI will not implement this and certainly NOT in the day and age because DJI has to keep building on safety and will not jeopardise that.
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Bashy Posted at 11-7 18:06
Not in RTH, its not possible, as you have already been told by other members, because this drone has OA, and even if the pilot has disabled it, it automatically turns on during RTH, its the same for other DJI drones with OA.

OA during RTH is NOT optional, the media team here will submit your suggestions but DJI will not implement this and certainly NOT in the day and age because DJI has to keep building on safety and will not jeopardise that.

Oh really?  I suppose then they will stop selling all drones without OA then?  Sorry, but your logic makes no sense.
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how about cruise control?  would you be willing to forgo this request if we are giving cruise control instead?
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The Saint Posted at 11-7 18:37
how about cruise control?  would you be willing to forgo this request if we are giving cruise control instead?

Again, READ THE POST.  This is about RTH, not cruise control.

"Mini 3 has OA" is not a valid reason why yaw control while RTH can't be implemented as OA can be disabled by the pilot as I've explained already.  Arguing safety being the reason this isn't implemented on the Mini 3 is ridiculous given we all know that DJI sells plenty of drones without OA where this feature is implemented.  If you are so afraid of turning off OA because you lack flying skills, I get it, but others want this feature and use it quite often.

The exact same thing happened when they launched Mini 2.  They didn't implement this feature and everyone argued (as you others did in this thread) it was because of safety.  Then DJI implemented it on the Mini 2.  I do think this feature was lower priority but will get included soon on the Mini 3.

Just don't use it when they do implement it.   If you do use it, you can think of the posts in this thread and how adamantly against it you were.
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JJB* Posted at 11-7 09:15
Hi, Because in RTH the OA is active DJI does not want us to rotate the Mini3Pro, safety first!

That's any interesting observation, from memory the M2P/Z will not spin/yaw in RTH ( OA off, I rarely use OA ). I recollect wondering why that was and had put it down to the 'yaw-able' gimbal.
Thanks for the possible/probable explanation.


That said, I do think it would be 'nice' to be able to spin/yaw the drone during RTH if and only if OA was off. Sadly I can't imagine that option being added to Go4 but ....perhaps Fly.
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Element115, you could perhaps think of it as an opportunity the develop your piloting skills and learn to fly, under manual control, a straight line course whilst yawing the drone. If nothing else the skill would allow you to perform such pirouettes at any stage of the flight rather than in just one or perhaps two.

An interesting name if it refers to Moscovium, half life of 0.65 sec according to Wiki.
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Sean-bumble-bee Posted at 11-7 19:16
Element115, you could perhaps think of it as an opportunity the develop your piloting skills and learn to fly, under manual control, a straight line course whilst yawing the drone. If nothing else the skill would allow you to perform such pirouettes at any stage of the flight rather than in just one or perhaps two.

An interesting name if it refers to Moscovium, half life of 0.65 sec according to Wiki.

Hi there Sean,
I'd agree with some of the naysayers here but they haven't provided any justification or reason why yaw while RTH shouldn't be implemented in the case where the pilot decides to turn off OA.

As far as piloting skills go, I'm a pretty good precision flyer as I've been flying for nearly 3 decades plus that is not what this thread is about.

Yes, as everyone knows, Moscovium can be used to generate gravity waves for propulsion
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Element115 Posted at 11-7 20:15
Hi there Sean,
I'd agree with some of the naysayers here but they haven't provided any justification or reason why yaw while RTH shouldn't be implemented in the case where the pilot decides to turn off OA.

I also did not see your rationale, except for "I used to fly like that." If you need control, fly in manual mode.
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Drone.Hunter Posted at 11-7 21:06
I also did not see your rationale, except for "I used to fly like that." If you need control, fly in manual mode.

Your quotes.   Where do I say that?  
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Element115 Posted at 11-7 21:09
Your quotes.   Where do I say that?

#12 I've been using this function for over a decade on my drones and it would be a sad feature to lose, especially on those long RTH trips back.
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Element115 Posted at 11-7 20:15
Hi there Sean,
I'd agree with some of the naysayers here but they haven't provided any justification or reason why yaw while RTH shouldn't be implemented in the case where the pilot decides to turn off OA.

But we have though, during RTH OA is turned ON automatically. It doesn't matter what the pilot does with OA before hand, you just cannot see the reason for looking...

As for another reason and or justification, i gave that to you as well, Safety, if you're not looking at the direction of travel then you can't see to avoid.

Look, we have given you our best answers based on past uses but this is not to say it won't be implemented BUT, bare in mind that this has already been brought up, it was shortly after release and its still not been implemented so far so take from that as you may.

If i was a gambler and to be fair, I'm glad i ain't as i normally lose, but given that safety is becoming more and more serious with the powers that be, dont get your hopes up, i myself would love to see it returned, it was quite cool to be able to get a different perspective during those erm long journeys home, whilst very rare journeys mind so its not like I'm going to really miss it.
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Element115 Posted at 11-7 21:09
Your quotes.   Where do I say that?

Thats called paraphrasing, your actual words were...

..."I've been using this function for over a decade on my drones..."
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Bashy Posted at 11-7 21:35
Thats called paraphrasing, your actual words were...

..."I've been using this function for over a decade on my drones..."

he wants it because he feels like "dji taketh away" which is the same, sorry excuse always given.

i wanted a tape deck in my car when it only came with a cd player and i accused lexus of taking away a feature that everybody loves and they gave me in my last car that i had been using for over a decade.  i hated apple for dropping the cd slot, now how am i going to burn cds?  no flash?  
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Element115 Posted at 11-7 13:40
Read the post.  OA can be disabled by the user.

uh, oke....i read the post multiple times now.

BUT in RTH the OA sensors are always ON, despite the OFF selection on the APAS menu.

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Mobilehomer Posted at 11-7 10:14
Yes it does, no DJI drone with OA has it.

... but the Mavic 3 could get it!!!   
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Gusdog Posted at 11-7 10:31
It's a minor feature that can be replicated manually, quite easily.

If the drone flies sideways the OA cannot work. I'd rather have the OA

Absolutely true!  

Why RTH if you want to film...
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The Saint Posted at 11-7 21:58
he wants it because he feels like "dji taketh away" which is the same, sorry excuse always given.

i wanted a tape deck in my car when it only came with a cd player and i accused lexus of taking away a feature that everybody loves and they gave me in my last car that i had been using for over a decade.  i hated apple for dropping the cd slot, now how am i going to burn cds?  no flash?

In that case the Fly App should be scrapped lol, it lost so much in comparison to Go4 and Go4 lost something like "Course Lock" or "Home Lock" when compared of Go. And, from memory, one of those two "locks " allows this pirouetting  to be done at any stage of manually controlled flight.
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