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DJI AVATA NO MANUAL MODE IN  Authorization Zones
When flying with DJI Avata in an Authorization Zones it is not possible to activate the Manual mode,

But ... I need Manual mode in order to make more dynamic video recordings.

this is one of the main reasons i bought dji Avata
take dynamic shots in manual mode

to me , this is very frustrating , because I have permission to fly in that specific area ...
and I have some work business to do there !!!  

in fact,
I requested and obtained the unlock of this zone,
following the procedure on the DJI website and sending all the required authorizations and documents.
(https://fly-safe.dji.com/unlock/unlock-request)

but despite all this , it is not possible in any way to activate the manual mode .

yes, now  the drone (avata) can fly in this authorization zone
but only in normal or sport mode!!!!

What do I need to do to fly in manual mode?
I need manual mode , to shoot a scene of a video , where the client  asked me for a deep down and a flip shoot ...

I am deeply disappointed with this situation
maybe I'll need to spend more money and buy a FPV drone from another brand and without these absurd limitations.

ok , safety first  ... I agree ...
but once I proved that I have permissions from the authorities and I have the necessary cerificates and skill ...

why DJI must limit the capabilities of this drone and deprive me of this possibility?


NO DJI, THIS IS NOT GOOD ...
PLEASE TRY TO FIX IT
OTHERWISE WHAT SHOULD WE DO?




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Incredibile !!!
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unfortunately it is true   
safety and compliance with regulations are important things and are part of my priorities
so I'm happy that dji adopts systems that improve the safety of our flights ...
However ...
dji should also understand, that there are many pilots licensed by the authorities
who have applied for and obtained flight permits to fly in the (red) NFZ zones
certified pilots, who have studied and obtained certificates of competence
who meticulously plan the flights, who make site inspections, before carrying out each mission
pilots who use the drone professionally for work ...

and that after much effort ...

they have a huge disappointment
when they find out that DJI limits the capabilities of the drone ...
as in the case of the dji AVATA which is deprived of the possibility of using the MANUAL mode


purtroppo è vero
la sicurezza e il rispetto dei regolamenti sono cose importanti e fanno parte delle mie priorità
quindi sono felice che dji adotti sistemi che migliorino la sicurezza dei nostri voli ...
però ...
dji dovrebbe anche capire , che ci sono molti piloti autorizzati dalle autorità
che hanno richiesto e ottenuto i permessi di volo per volare nelle zone (rosse) NFZ
piloti certificati , che hanno studiato e ottenuto certificati d competenza
che pianificano minuziosamente i voli , che fanno sopralluoghi , prima di svolgere ogni missione
piloti che usano il drone in maniera professionale per lavoro ...

e che dopo molti sforzi ...

hanno una delusione enorme
quando scoprono che DJI limita le capacità del drone ...
come nel caso del dji AVATA al quale viene tolta la possibilità di usare la modalità MANUALE
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È assurdo davvero.
Se è sbloccato, e hai i permessi, dovresti volare come meglio credi e come meglio pensi.
D'altronde i permessi che hai ricevuto non sono solo per volo stabilizzato o solo FPV o solo autopilotato. Come condurre il drone, sta a te deciderlo, in totale sicurezza.
Comprendo il tuo sfogo, mi spiace anche che ti trovi in questa condizione
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DJI would never approve this but you may be able to hack around this by simply blocking the GPS module with something that will shield the signal (ex. foil/copper tape). It would not know where you were and for all it knew you were flying indoors. You'd just need to be aware that you'd have no bail out with pause, or flipping to normal, or sport mode would only hold position in a well lit area and not to high up. But if your in manual the whole time it wouldn't matter.
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Hi, AlexCarboni. Thanks for reaching out. We are deeply sorry for the inconvenience this limitation has caused you. We understand that you have unlocked the area and acquired necessary license to fly in the area. DJI is dedicated in providing the best user experience and following local laws and regulations. We understand the importance of customer feedback. Therefore, we'll forward yours to our designated team for attention. In the meantime, kindly use Normal or Sport mode when flying inside a GEO zone. Your understanding is highly appreciated and thanks for your continued support. Should you have further concerns, please reach back here at DJI Forum. Have a nice day.
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why no manual mode.... if you are allowed to fly the drone, you are allowed to fly it.... period....

it's not that difficult!
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DJI Tony Posted at 2-7 20:50
Hi, AlexCarboni. Thanks for reaching out. We are deeply sorry for the inconvenience this limitation has caused you. We understand that you have unlocked the area and acquired necessary license to fly in the area. DJI is dedicated in providing the best user experience and following local laws and regulations. We understand the importance of customer feedback. Therefore, we'll forward yours to our designated team for attention. In the meantime, kindly use Normal or Sport mode when flying inside a GEO zone. Your understanding is highly appreciated and thanks for your continued support. Should you have further concerns, please reach back here at DJI Forum. Have a nice day.

thanks for your kind reply...

unfortunately I am disappointed with these limitations that have nothing to do with safety ...
for this job, I will have to use another drone

too bad, because Avata could become a good fpv drone ...
I hope you can fix this with a new firmware soon...
otherwise… I will be forced to buy new drones from another brand
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BadBert Posted at 2-7 22:46
why no manual mode.... if you are allowed to fly the drone, you are allowed to fly it.... period....

it's not that difficult!

you're right ... it's not difficult
but these DJI engineers can't implement a decent firmware...  

among other things, the zones  present on the DJI app do not coincide with those of the European authorities

so it is really very frustrating to use these drones
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Big Fil Posted at 2-7 17:02
DJI would never approve this but you may be able to hack around this by simply blocking the GPS module with something that will shield the signal (ex. foil/copper tape). It would not know where you were and for all it knew you were flying indoors. You'd just need to be aware that you'd have no bail out with pause, or flipping to normal, or sport mode would only hold position in a well lit area and not to high up. But if your in manual the whole time it wouldn't matter.

this situation is not resolved by shielding the gps module...

if by chance it picks up the GPS signal during the flight, it could react in a strange way...

I can't take these risks during a job... I'm professional drone pilot

I will use another fpv drone, but from another brand ...
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Luca Rubino Posted at 2-7 14:43
È assurdo davvero.
Se è sbloccato, e hai i permessi, dovresti volare come meglio credi e come meglio pensi.
D'altronde i permessi che hai ricevuto non sono solo per volo stabilizzato o solo FPV o solo autopilotato. Come condurre il drone, sta a te deciderlo, in totale sicurezza.

hai capito perfettamente la mia situazione

DJI parla di sicurezza ...
ma questo non ha nulla a che vedere con la sicurezza

purtroppo dovrò usare un'altro drone fpv , di un'altra marca che non mi dia questi problemi
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This is why im switching to drones (cinewhoops) with O3 Air Unit... Nothing to mess around, you are always 100% in control...
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Nees Posted at 2-8 01:42
This is why im switching to drones (cinewhoops) with O3 Air Unit... Nothing to mess around, you are always 100% in control...

I also already have other fpv drones from other brands

but this detail has created problems for me
because to do this specific job ...
Documentation has already been made, the drones to be used have been registered
insurance policies etc etc
all this at an economic cost and time
so it's really frustrating to have to do all the docs again
hoping to make them in time and not stop production
OTHERWISE THEY'RE SERIOUS TROUBLE

Furthermore
I am convinced that the flight system used by dji
is a good system
even better than betaflyght ...
but despite this… these things happen
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AlexCarboni Posted at 2-7 11:28
unfortunately it is true   
safety and compliance with regulations are important things and are part of my priorities
so I'm happy that dji adopts systems that improve the safety of our flights ...

Concordo pienamente.
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Weird. I've flown in an authorization zone in manual mode.

This is in controlled airspace near Dulles Airport outside Washington, DC, after unlocking the Geo Zone. As a side note, I've learned that apparently Manual mode defaults to a 165ft height limit (which I guess can be disabled, but I haven't tried it yet).

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2wheeledphotog Posted at 2-8 12:39
Weird. I've flown in an authorization zone in manual mode.

This is in controlled airspace near Dulles Airport outside Washington, DC, after unlocking the Geo Zone. As a side note, I've learned that apparently Manual mode defaults to a 165ft height limit (which I guess can be disabled, but I haven't tried it yet).

Me too, many times. In fact I live in an Authorization Zone, so I have to unlock every time I fly in my area. No problems at all in manual mode.Third party authorizations and other documents are only required for the process to unlock a Restricted Zone, not for unlocking Authorization Zones.

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2wheeledphotog Posted at 2-8 12:39
Weird. I've flown in an authorization zone in manual mode.

This is in controlled airspace near Dulles Airport outside Washington, DC, after unlocking the Geo Zone. As a side note, I've learned that apparently Manual mode defaults to a 165ft height limit (which I guess can be disabled, but I haven't tried it yet).

DJI confirms what I said ...
unfortunately in the red zones ... you cannot activate the manual mode  
So ... I'm happy for you ... if you can do it ...
but the settings made by dji on Avata do not allow this thing

and this is really a big limitation
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skyscope Posted at 2-8 14:11
Me too, many times. In fact I live in an Authorization Zone, so I have to unlock every time I fly in my area. No problems at all in manual mode.Third party authorizations and other documents are only required for the process to unlock a Restricted Zone, not for unlocking Authorization Zones.

I'm shooting videos in a red zone near an airport
obviously, I have all the necessary permissions
but to unlock this area, I had to go to this link: https://www.dji.com/it/flysafe and follow a few steps

the first request was denied
then I received the dji email ... where they explained to me that it is a high risk area ... and therefore they asked me for more documentation

Note :
"Unlocking low-risk zones requires just a few taps or clicks, while high-risk zones require users to submit particular credentials
to ensure compliance with local policies and regulations."

of course I had all the necessary documentation
and so DJI  finally unblocked the area for me ...

but when I got there , to make the first flights ...
(planning and verification)
I discovered with great regret that on Avata it is not possible to activate the Manual mode in this area.

luckily I also have other fpv drones, and therefore I can continue to work with those

but it was not a good day ... I had to reschedule the video shoot , and organize some things differently .

all fixable yes...
but I don't understand the limitation set by DJI
limitation that makes no sense
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AlexCarboni Posted at 2-8 00:58
thanks for your kind reply...

unfortunately I am disappointed with these limitations that have nothing to do with safety ...

We completely understand, and we also hope that this feature will be unlocked in the future. Rest assured that your insights will reach the designated department. Thank you, and stay safe.
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DJI Tony Posted at 2-8 23:48
We completely understand, and we also hope that this feature will be unlocked in the future. Rest assured that your insights will reach the designated department. Thank you, and stay safe.

I hope this feature will be unlocked soon...

I repeat ... DJI avata could be a good fpv (cinematic) drone ...
but with this nonsense limitations ...
we have to buy others fpv drones from different brands  to be sure that then ...
we can full use where we need  ...

anyway ...
I'm pretty sure , if DJI whant really solve this issue ...
dji will solve it
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@AlexCarboni The title of this thread and your first post is misleading then.
You are talking about "Restricted Zones" (red), not "Authorization Zones" (blue).



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skyscope Posted at 2-9 01:49
@AlexCarboni The title of this thread and your first post is misleading then.
You are talking about "Restricted Zones" (red), not "Authorization Zones" (blue).

thanks for pointing it out to me ...
but
Avata's problem still remains ...
moreover the dji maps often do not coincide with the real ones ... those of civil aviation ...
in short ..
I really hope they will soon be able to solve these issues
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AlexCarboni Posted at 2-9 00:04
I hope this feature will be unlocked soon...

I repeat ... DJI avata could be a good fpv (cinematic) drone ...

This is well-noted. Thanks for the additional feedback. Have a nice day.
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DJI Tony Posted at 2-9 23:32
This is well-noted. Thanks for the additional feedback. Have a nice day.

THANKS DJI Tony  for your support and understanding  
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AlexCarboni Posted at 2-10 02:39
THANKS DJI Tony  for your support and understanding

You are most welcome. We hope you have a great day!
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DJI Tony Posted at 2-13 22:46
You are most welcome. We hope you have a great day!

thanks
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Our pleasure. Stay safe!
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I agree on every word!
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DJI Tony Posted at 2-8 23:48
We completely understand, and we also hope that this feature will be unlocked in the future. Rest assured that your insights will reach the designated department. Thank you, and stay safe.

Any news about unlocking this feature Tony?
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ro_walker Posted at 4-1 14:36
Any news about unlocking this feature Tony?

Hi there. Thanks for checking in. There has been no updates as of writing. We apologize for the inconvenience. We appreciate your understanding and support.
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DJI Tony Posted at 4-1 23:11
Hi there. Thanks for checking in. There has been no updates as of writing. We apologize for the inconvenience. We appreciate your understanding and support.

Thanks for the feedback, mate
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ro_walker Posted at 4-2 10:17
Thanks for the feedback, mate

You are most welcome. Stay safe!
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Hi, has this been resolved to anyone?  I flew in an authorization zone today with an AVATA.  I had LAANC and submitted my authorization to DJI Flysafe.  I could take off but not use manual mode.  I was very frustrated and dissapointed.  DJI needs to not restrict us when we buy a drone designed to fly in manual mode.  I have done everything that the FAA requires of me.  Why is DJI restricting me?
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fans17e73117 Posted at 7-14 16:22
Hi, has this been resolved to anyone?  I flew in an authorization zone today with an AVATA.  I had LAANC and submitted my authorization to DJI Flysafe.  I could take off but not use manual mode.  I was very frustrated and dissapointed.  DJI needs to not restrict us when we buy a drone designed to fly in manual mode.  I have done everything that the FAA requires of me.  Why is DJI restricting me?

Hi, now I can fly in manual mode with avata2 always keeping the USB cable attached to the goggles3

But sometime , random it not work ...
even when I follow the same procedure .
I belive still some bug in this dji fly app and sometime doesn't work properly .
and yes I'm frustated too like you .
when I'm using them on the work ... it is very stressfull ,
I need to be ready and efficient without any deleay ... especially in the set
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