Something wrong with the avata footage?
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Is there something wrong with quality on my Avata? (I can remember that I have seen more videos from others that looks blurry like this aswell). But some videos on youtube are alot better..?

I thought it would be better that this? The footage looks blurry and just weird?
The first clip is d-cinelike, 4k/50 fps, 1/100, ISO 800 (might be a bit high?)
Second clip is 4k/50 fps, auto shutter, ISO 100.

Both clip looks better before they are either processed in After Effects/Premiere or straight uploaded to youtube. So I might do something wrong aswell, but I dont think so? My DJI FPV don't get this blurry.



Clip 3: Everyhing on auto, 4k/60 fps.
Looks just horrible, the sky and trees are just a blurry mess (same as the pathway), you can count big pixels?




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Hi, f1dg1t. Thank you for reaching out. Can you please upload the unedited files to a shareable link for further checking? We will wait for your reply. Thank you.
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The first part of the first clip looks a little blurry, but this could be a shutter speed issue, or a smudge issue, or a missed autofocus issue. Everything else I watched looked fine?
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DJI Gamora Posted at 2-20 20:02
Hi, f1dg1t. Thank you for reaching out. Can you please upload the unedited files to a shareable link for further checking? We will wait for your reply. Thank you.

Here is the "raw" from the first clip;

I think I know why this is looking like mess, too high ISO? I might be used with my fullframe mirrorless and Mavic 3 that I can push harder.
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2wheeledphotog Posted at 2-21 12:42
The first part of the first clip looks a little blurry, but this could be a shutter speed issue, or a smudge issue, or a missed autofocus issue. Everything else I watched looked fine?

I think I know why the first clip was a blurry mess, too high ISO. I thought that I had iso 800 as max settings but checking the clip with subtitles now I see that it goes up to ~2000.

But the third clip, the sky shouldn't be that bad?
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f1dg1t Posted at 2-21 23:01
I think I know why the first clip was a blurry mess, too high ISO. I thought that I had iso 800 as max settings but checking the clip with subtitles now I see that it goes up to ~2000.

But the third clip, the sky shouldn't be that bad?

Did you use normal color profile or cinelike?
The banding in the sky is normal in 8bit videos.
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f1dg1t Posted at 2-21 22:57
Here is the "raw" from the first clip; https://youtu.be/TOVbFK6jpoI

I think I know why this is looking like mess, too high ISO? I might be used with my fullframe mirrorless and Mavic 3 that I can push harder.

Hi, f1dg1t. We will confirm your question with our relevant team. The video was uploaded to Youtube which may deteriorate the file itself. Can you please upload it to a shareable link like Google Drive or DropBox? Thank you for your kind understanding.
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Hi everyone,
can we pick up the subject once more? The OG hasn't mentioned sharing the orginal material, DJI seemingly hasn't replied - i am rather new to the avata, flying it since last summer (but due to much work rather seldom).

Now I have started to record in 4K60 with the D-Cine Like profile. EIS enabled. ISO on automatic. I have noticed the following:
1.) Since the Update to Firmware 1.03.000 I cannot play the raw material anymore with VLC, MPC-HC or MPV. Windows Media Player still plays it with only mild stutter. I have K-Lite Codec Pack with LAV Video Filter installed (VLC doesn't use it but MPC-HC) and nothing helps. The file is being decoded by my Nvidia GTX970 just fine when watching with Windows 11 built-in Media Players. But something in my machine doesn't like the switch from AVC1 to HEVC in the drone (yes, the old videos are AVC1 and the new ones are recorded in HEVC). Can this be changed somehow?
2.) The "smudging" of fine structured surfaces like shrubs or gras is really, really bad since. This is likely due to the recorded material now not being processed properly anymore by Adobe Premiere or similar. This brings me to the same question as the original poster. Can we get some help in understanding what is happening and how to ensure the image smoothing algorithms don't break the looks?
Thanks.
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AcidOnFire Posted at 4-13 09:40
Hi everyone,
can we pick up the subject once more? The OG hasn't mentioned sharing the orginal material, DJI seemingly hasn't replied - i am rather new to the avata, flying it since last summer (but due to much work rather seldom).

I'd suggest having a look at noise reduction and sharpness settings, sounds like too much NR
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oberschneider.com Posted at 4-13 19:53
I'd suggest having a look at noise reduction and sharpness settings, sounds like too much NR

Thank you, yes.

I learned more today and I am now quite clear that my GTX970/Intel I7-8700K do not decode h.265/HEVC fully on hardware despite the settings being available in the LAV Filter from K-Lite Codec pack. Also VLC, which is using its own decoder, cannot hardware decode. So that's that.
Another thing i learned today is that using GyroFlow instead of EIS on the Drone might handle noise and smoothing better than the drone's CPU might. I have to test this.
Other than that I have not purposely set any NR/Sharpness - i am not even aware of such controls in the Goggles2 Menu. I definitely did not work with smoothing/NR/Sharpness in Adobe Premiere which I use for editing.

What I suspect though is, that the Software (Premiere and later YouTube) is messing up sharpness and smoothing anyway when transforming from h.265 into something it can work with and then outputting again into h.265 - it must be happening when compressing or decompressing that the slight smudge which is in all Avata videos turns into real bad smudge. Steep learning curve...

@DJI would it be asked too much if I requested a feature to actually pick the recording encoder? For me, it would save me buying hella expensive hardware? I have seen someone ask for the same feature in the Mini 2S Forum. Guess this is quite a thing you did there. Did you not consider that a large number of your customers does not have the most current hardware? There should really be an option, don't you think? Especially since the Avata was recording 4k60 in AVC before... why not anymore? And why silently change that?
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So I went out today and shot some footage in 4K60, 10 Bit, D-CineLike and then ran it through GyroFlow, with settings that were as close to the original as possible. The output file resulted in a stabilized, clear and stutter free video that my PC could play with only mild issues (in very fast scenes, the fans in the PC would suddenly ramp up, so either CPU or GPU were at load trying to play the video, but it was hardly visible in the footage). For interested people: i generated a MediaInfo.txt with MPC-HC for both files, the original and the result from GyroFlow. I have them attached (in a zip because the Forum does not allow text files). The attached screenshot shows the two files side-by-side in BeyondCompare, with differences highlighted in red. It is a little boring. The relevant informations are hidden behind "DJI Default Encoder" (writing Application) and some other stuff that could make a difference was also not in the file. But the actual video data is almost identical. So for me, i cannot deduct the reason for the faulty playback of the Avata files. But maybe this is helpful for DJI engineers to fix their ...ty incompatible encoding settings on their end? I mean, common... the videos do work in h.265 on older machines when done by GyroFlow but not by the drone? And both look super crisp and of best quality? Lulz. Fix it. DJI. Thanks.

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f1dg1t Posted at 2-21 22:57
Here is the "raw" from the first clip; https://youtu.be/TOVbFK6jpoI

I think I know why this is looking like mess, too high ISO? I might be used with my fullframe mirrorless and Mavic 3 that I can push harder.

Seems to be a lot of aberrations on the edges of this lens. Mine isnt this bad irregardless of ISO.
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Seems to be some issues with optics in his case, I see even in daylight where ISO cannot go over 200 that the image is very blurry.
I advice you to stop moving the drone and take a footage of trees in mid day (try to video the leaf in tree or grass on land from a distance around 10-15 meters, is easy to see if is bad focus)...they should look crisp and focused...If is not, send back to DJI with BAD OPTICS error.
If is focused, you need to see other settings, but no NR inside drone can do such blur.
Also try a different Micro SD card at this test.
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