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I live in the US and plan to go to Europe this summer.  I have a Air2S and would like to bring it and fly it.  From reading it there are some tests that I have to take in order to fly it.  I also have a Mini 2 and was wondering if I have to take the same tests for this?  Should I just take the Mini 2 instead to avoid the tests?  I am going over there for 2 weeks in July.  I plan to travel to the UK, Germany and Italy.
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For the EU: you have to register as a pilot, you need insurance for that. That Pilotnumber that you get you need to stick to the drone. For drones heavier than 250 g you need the "small" license which is 75 % of 40 multiple choice questions and even then you have to be 150 m from uninvolved people/areas where people live, work etc. If you get the "big" license it's "only 50 m. So definitely bring the Mini 2. I never bothered to get a gimbal drone weighing more than 250g. The registration is good for 5 years and valid in all of the EU regardless of where you are registered. No cost.Insurance is about 3 Euros/month or 40 to 80 Euros per year depending on what you want.

In the UK it's similar: you need to register yourself, pass a (simple) test if you want to fly bigger than 250g and you get IDs that you have to stick to your drone... Some tests and/or payments (9 GBP per year I think) you have to repeat every year. I really can't remember but I get a helpful mail in advance. Don't know about insurance.

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Depp Posted at 4-20 07:41
For the EU: you have to register as a pilot, you need insurance for that. That Pilotnumber that you get you need to stick to the drone. For drones heavier than 250 g you need the "small" license which is 75 % of 40 multiple choice questions and even then you have to be 150 m from uninvolved people/areas where people live, work etc. If you get the "big" license it's "only 50 m. So definitely bring the Mini 2. I never bothered to get a gimbal drone weighing more than 250g. The registration is good for 5 years and valid in all of the EU regardless of where you are registered. No cost.Insurance is about 3 Euros/month or 40 to 80 Euros per year depending on what you want.

In the UK it's similar: you need to register yourself, pass a (simple) test if you want to fly bigger than 250g and you get IDs that you have to stick to your drone... Some tests and/or payments (9 GBP per year I think) you have to repeat every year. I really can't remember but I get a helpful mail in advance. Don't know about insurance.

A comprehensive answer Depp.  An example of UK insurance is from FPV-UK which is £19 per Annum.
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Blériot53 Posted at 4-20 07:50
A comprehensive answer Depp.  An example of UK insurance is from FPV-UK which is £19 per Annum.

Thanks. I always forget it so I have to look it up myself ;-)
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Depp Posted at 4-20 09:34
Thanks. I always forget it so I have to look it up myself ;-)

Anything to help
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Blériot53 Posted at 4-20 07:50
A comprehensive answer Depp.  An example of UK insurance is from FPV-UK which is £19 per Annum.

Not to forget if he uses FPVUK he can fly under Article 16.
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DAFlys Posted at 4-20 22:49
Not to forget if he uses FPVUK he can fly under Article 16.

A useful benefit. And (for UK residents at least) it covers you for flights in other countries so long as you observe local regulations.
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Boy it doesn't at all sound that easy to fly in Europe.  Well I better get started.  How long is everything good for?  Because I might be going back in December.
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Blériot53 Posted at 4-20 07:50
A comprehensive answer Depp.  An example of UK insurance is from FPV-UK which is £19 per Annum.

Are you a member of fpvuk?   If you are could you share the article 16 risk assessment template?
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DAFlys Posted at 4-22 02:58
Are you a member of fpvuk?   If you are could you share the article 16 risk assessment template?

I've downloaded it from the members' page. It's in .xlsx format.  Do you want a copy?
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Depp Posted at 4-20 07:41
For the EU: you have to register as a pilot, you need insurance for that. That Pilotnumber that you get you need to stick to the drone. For drones heavier than 250 g you need the "small" license which is 75 % of 40 multiple choice questions and even then you have to be 150 m from uninvolved people/areas where people live, work etc. If you get the "big" license it's "only 50 m. So definitely bring the Mini 2. I never bothered to get a gimbal drone weighing more than 250g. The registration is good for 5 years and valid in all of the EU regardless of where you are registered. No cost.Insurance is about 3 Euros/month or 40 to 80 Euros per year depending on what you want.

In the UK it's similar: you need to register yourself, pass a (simple) test if you want to fly bigger than 250g and you get IDs that you have to stick to your drone... Some tests and/or payments (9 GBP per year I think) you have to repeat every year. I really can't remember but I get a helpful mail in advance. Don't know about insurance.

Thank you for the info. How much of all of that applies to under 250g (mini 3 pro), I'll be in Europe too, do I need that registration number slapped on the drone, insurance ? Or that applies to heavier drones only ?
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DMD Cine Attic Posted at 4-22 05:58
Thank you for the info. How much of all of that applies to under 250g (mini 3 pro), I'll be in Europe too, do I need that registration number slapped on the drone, insurance ? Or that applies to heavier drones only ?

EU: Registration, sticker on the drone, insurance regardless of weight.
UK: (I think): no insurance below 250g
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Depp Posted at 4-22 07:00
EU: Registration, sticker on the drone, insurance regardless of weight.
UK: (I think): no insurance below 250g

Ok thanks, that is even more hassle than in Canada, will look into it, thank you for your time.
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Blériot53 Posted at 4-22 03:18
I've downloaded it from the members' page. It's in .xlsx format.  Do you want a copy?

thanks.  thats great.  
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DAFlys Posted at 4-22 23:04
thanks.  thats great.

Glad it worked
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Yes.  I wonder if there was a sample of a completed one?
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DAFlys Posted at 4-22 23:33
Yes.  I wonder if there was a sample of a completed one?

I didn't check. Standby, I'll have a look.
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DAFlys Posted at 4-22 23:33
Yes.  I wonder if there was a sample of a completed one?

Can't see anything.
There's a forum, but you'd have to sign up to join i think.

https://dronehub.co.uk/
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Blériot53 Posted at 4-22 23:45
Can't see anything.
There's a forum, but you'd have to sign up to join i think.

thx.  I'll take a look shortly.
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DAFlys Posted at 4-22 23:48
thx.  I'll take a look shortly.

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Blériot53 Posted at 4-22 23:45
Can't see anything.
There's a forum, but you'd have to sign up to join i think.

I found an example,  although I think its a bad one

https://fpvuk.org/files/FPV-UK-Risk-Assessment-Example.xlsx
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DAFlys Posted at 4-23 01:22
I found an example,  although I think its a bad one

https://fpvuk.org/files/FPV-UK-Risk-Assessment-Example.xlsx

Looks very similar to what I sent you
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Blériot53 Posted at 4-23 02:08
Looks very similar to what I sent you

Yes.  You sent me the empty template and that one is completed as an example.   
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DAFlys Posted at 4-23 02:46
Yes.  You sent me the empty template and that one is completed as an example.

OK. I hadn't scrutinized it closely.
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Blériot53 Posted at 4-23 03:15
OK. I hadn't scrutinized it closely.

No worries,     Are assume your not flying the M2Z under article 16?
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DAFlys Posted at 4-23 03:41
No worries,     Are assume your not flying the M2Z under article 16?

There comes a point at which, it's not worth the hassle.
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Blériot53 Posted at 4-23 04:17
There comes a point at which, it's not worth the hassle.

My thinking was have a couple of generic risk assesments,   one say for fields that contain footpaths and another for beaches and then just drag them out when needed.
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DAFlys Posted at 4-23 22:51
My thinking was have a couple of generic risk assesments,   one say for fields that contain footpaths and another for beaches and then just drag them out when needed.

I get what you mean.
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To use the DJI Air 2S in Europe, you will need to be tested and certified as an "Open Category" competitor. This test can be taken online and for free on the European Union website.
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