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Sunshadow
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After flying together with some friends I am missing a very useful feature. It would be great to get a warning, or see the position of nearby other (DJI) drones in the Goggles 2.
The Avata is very small and even spotters have problems to see nearby other drones. So is it possible to get such a feature (e.g. like the Home-Position)?
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Manuel Perez
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DJI AirSense is a tool for alerting users of nearby aircraft with ADS-B  Out installed, but it does have some technical limitations. AirSense  receives information broadcast from 1090ES (RTCA DO-260B) and UAT (RTCA  DO-282B), but for aircraft with malfunctioning transmitters, or no ADS-B  Out, AirSense cannot receive broadcast messages and will be unable to  send out warnings. AirSense may also be unable to receive ADS-B  information when there are large structures or obstacles between the DJI  aircraft and the passenger aircraft, or if the DJI aircraft cannot  accurately determine its own location during flight.

It should  be noted that ADS-B Out transmissions are not only broadcast from  passenger aircraft, they can also come from air traffic control and  ground stations, who collect and broadcast ADS-B information to give  nearby aircraft the clearest understanding of the surrounding airspace.  While DJI AirSense is a powerful tool that can increase flight safety,  operators are ultimately responsible for flying with caution and keenly  observing their surroundings during flight.

If my drone has ADS-B, does that mean other aircraft with ADS-B will be able to see it while I’m flying?No.  AirSense only uses ADS-B In, not ADS-B Out. This means a drone equipped  with AirSense can receive information from other aircraft but is not  capable of broadcasting information out.


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Sunshadow
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Manuel Perez Posted at 8-6 07:51
DJI AirSense is a tool for alerting users of nearby aircraft with ADS-B  Out installed, but it does have some technical limitations. AirSense  receives information broadcast from 1090ES (RTCA DO-260B) and UAT (RTCA  DO-282B), but for aircraft with malfunctioning transmitters, or no ADS-B  Out, AirSense cannot receive broadcast messages and will be unable to  send out warnings. AirSense may also be unable to receive ADS-B  information when there are large structures or obstacles between the DJI  aircraft and the passenger aircraft, or if the DJI aircraft cannot  accurately determine its own location during flight.

It should  be noted that ADS-B Out transmissions are not only broadcast from  passenger aircraft, they can also come from air traffic control and  ground stations, who collect and broadcast ADS-B information to give  nearby aircraft the clearest understanding of the surrounding airspace.  While DJI AirSense is a powerful tool that can increase flight safety,  operators are ultimately responsible for flying with caution and keenly  observing their surroundings during flight.

Yes, the Avata has no ADS-B Out. But it should be possible to share the GPS location of other drones with connected smartphones. Most FPV pilots are in Bluetooth range. So it would be possible to broadcast their drone positions to nearby FPV pilots.
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Manuel Perez
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Sunshadow Posted at 8-6 08:06
Yes, the Avata has no ADS-B Out. But it should be possible to share the GPS location of other drones with connected smartphones. Most FPV pilots are in Bluetooth range. So it would be possible to broadcast their drone positions to nearby FPV pilots.

I think that if more data exchange devices are added, that would drain the battery much faster. and from current 15~18 minutes, we could reach only 10 minutes per battery for flight.
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Thank you for your feedback. We really appreciate the time and effort you have invested in providing this suggestion to us. Your feedback will be definitely cascaded to the concerned team for further review. Your understanding is highly appreciated.
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fredbotton75
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I think that if more data exchange devices are added, that would drain the battery much faster. and from current 15~18 minutes, we could reach only 10 minutes per battery for flight.

DJI drones do actually already broadcast their position realtime, works all around the world independently of local ID broadcasting regulations, that's the info used by AeroScope detecting device.
So I guess it wouldn't harm battery life that much to process this info in a way similar to what AirSense does - actually battery life does not differ signficantly with AirSense on or off AFAIK.
And adding a "see and be seen by other DJI drones" check option would help choosing discretion and visibility.
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Panaboard
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Please can "Manned Aircraft Nearby" show on Goggle 2 without connecting to mobile device?
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